It's not as bad as they present. For example cattle get tiny levels of antibiotics that are same as humans but they add anti micobials into antibiotic category to make it look like they're pumped full.
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Medically important antibiotics are widely used in food animals in the US. Banned in the EU to prevent development of resistance. What about hormones and antibiotics used as growth promoters - completely banned in the EU? Is there a clearance time before slaughter for both/either? Is it observed?
apr 4, 2025, 12:42 am • 2 0 • view
"Chlorinated chicken" refers to poultry that has been washed or dipped in water containing chlorine dioxide to kill bacteria like E. coli, Campylobacter, and Salmonella. While the EU banned this practice in 1997, the US allows it as a food safety measure.
apr 6, 2025, 5:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Washing isn't required in the EU because vaccination of poultry, husbandry practices and factory hygiene standards means washing isn't necessary. The incidence of food borne infection is significantly lower in the EU. I know washing isn't harmful to human, but it's not appealing to consumers either.
apr 6, 2025, 7:52 pm • 2 0 • view
Exactly, standards are higher and more controlled in Europe than in the U.S. and elsewhere.
apr 7, 2025, 5:46 pm • 0 0 • view
None of this really matters. It's meat! Animal flesh is inherently unhealthy for humans. It's like cigarettes. People trade immediate gratification for poor health/cancer/death. Seems silly to debate who makes the cancer chunks more or less healthy.
apr 7, 2025, 3:55 am • 0 0 • view
Your first paragraph tells me you don't want to hear from my experience. Even though I have 2 science degrees and have been around agriculture my entire life. I'm not sure why Europe thinks we don't have science over here or care about safe food but it seems to be a thing.
apr 4, 2025, 2:19 am • 2 0 • view
Of course you care, but animal food production is quite different. Hormone & AB use for growth promotion is long banned. Needing to refrigerate eggs, higher tolerance of salmonella in chicken, lower welfare standards, greater intensification. Nowhere is perfect, but consumer expectations differ.
apr 4, 2025, 4:19 am • 1 0 • view
I don't need you to explain to me how animal production in the UK and here is different. I have more knowledge than you. Empirically speaking. The regulations may be different but scientific data doesn't change per country. I'd love to have a convo but I know a fake debate bait when I see it
apr 4, 2025, 4:40 am • 0 0 • view
You are mistaken on both the fair debate issue and that I am speaking of the UK. I won't quibble with the knowledge level, but I am not entirely ignorant as a vet who worked in food production at both farm level and in slaughter facilities during my career.
apr 4, 2025, 4:47 am • 1 0 • view