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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

We are entering an era where countries will (should) seek nuclear weapons ASAP. That’s crap news, and applies to bad guys too. Countries which already have them: USA China Russia UK France India Pakistan Israel North Korea

jun 18, 2025, 6:14 am • 219 36

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Lady Liberty @sadworld.bsky.social

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jun 18, 2025, 4:47 pm • 0 0 • view
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Ariel J. Blocker @drugdesigns.bsky.social

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jun 18, 2025, 6:43 am • 0 0 • view
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Bob Thomas @bobthomas2666.bsky.social

In the absence of NATO membership Ukraine is building a nuclear weapon. It's a binary choice. Taiwan would be foolish to not be working on a clandestine crash program to build a nuclear weapon as well.

jun 18, 2025, 8:10 am • 1 0 • view
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Rollamichael @rollamichael.bsky.social

in no particular order germany japan taiwan australia s korea poland sweden denmark norway saudi brazil argentina chile ugh

jun 18, 2025, 6:30 am • 4 0 • view
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Doctor Fellasaur @doctordinosaur.bsky.social

Germany certainly won't. We may pay someone to hold some nukes for us though.

jun 18, 2025, 6:41 am • 4 0 • view
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Rollamichael @rollamichael.bsky.social

No? Maybe France and Uk will provide enough assurances.

jun 18, 2025, 2:20 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stefan @stunn.bsky.social

The scope on single countries in europe is misleading. Germany will seek nukes only in accordance and maybe shared ownership with our neighbors and alles.

jul 8, 2025, 9:44 am • 1 0 • view
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Rollamichael @rollamichael.bsky.social

If wise heads were to prevail, you'd have a United Europe inc the UK getting back in along with a United Forces of Europe. And, oh by the way, UKR should be included, and Hungary and Turkey should be given an ultimatum.

jul 8, 2025, 4:46 pm • 2 0 • view
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Doctor Fellasaur @doctordinosaur.bsky.social

We don't have uranium mines, we're getting rid of nuclear plants, left and right are pro russia and would never allow anything moving towards nuclear capabilities. I'm sure I will find more reasons if I think hard enough.

jun 18, 2025, 5:33 pm • 2 0 • view
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Rollamichael @rollamichael.bsky.social

Your left nor right has had to face a world where the USA is your enemy. I hope that's not a permanent reality.

jun 18, 2025, 7:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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Electra 1970 @electra1970.bsky.social

And here I was, dumbly waking up thinking the world could be a better place today 😁

jun 18, 2025, 9:09 am • 0 0 • view
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Mosey 🇺🇦 @moseytech.bsky.social

I don't know why we are encouraging countries to obtain nuclear weapons. Seems very counterproductive to the continuation of our species.

jun 18, 2025, 6:46 am • 1 0 • view
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Brian Gentles @briangentles.bsky.social

Having the bomb is the only way a country can guarantee that it won’t be invaded

jun 18, 2025, 7:19 am • 4 0 • view
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Flip van Haaren @flipvh.bsky.social

While valid it is in the end just a theory, especially if the invader has nukes too :D.

jun 18, 2025, 7:34 am • 1 0 • view
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Bob Thomas @bobthomas2666.bsky.social

The human instinct for self preservation is a powerful motivation to not use a nuclear weapon, particularly if an opponent has not already done so. For 75 years game theory has demonstrated that there is no such thing as limited nuclear war.

jun 18, 2025, 8:15 am • 1 1 • view
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Flip van Haaren @flipvh.bsky.social

We tend to overestimate short term risk and underestimate long term risk. Humans are also good at finding creative ways to fuck it all up given enough time 😆 But I wasnt actually saying there would be nuclear war, simply that incursions can still happen, certainly if you lack good strategic culture.

jun 18, 2025, 8:31 am • 3 0 • view
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Formatt @formatt.bsky.social

But ironically this is also what makes deterrence work, and therefore makes nuclear weapons desirable.

jun 18, 2025, 8:21 am • 0 0 • view
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Brian Gentles @briangentles.bsky.social

Do you think the Israelis would be bombing the fuck out of Iran and Palestine if either of them had the bomb?

jun 18, 2025, 8:12 am • 0 0 • view
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Flip van Haaren @flipvh.bsky.social

No, but every situation is different. Yes I think retaliations and incursions might still happen even in this context. I like this one, you know it :D? www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgkU...

jun 18, 2025, 8:40 am • 1 0 • view
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Brian Gentles @briangentles.bsky.social

Very good, hadn't seen that!

jun 18, 2025, 9:27 am • 0 0 • view
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JurgenPanzer @jurgenpanzer.bsky.social

Dude google India Pakistani war, this was like a month and a half ago. Not the first and not the last one.

jun 19, 2025, 2:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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Mosey 🇺🇦 @moseytech.bsky.social

Not really. If your only defense is mutual suicide coupled with ecological collapse, then I don't consider that a very good defense.

jun 18, 2025, 2:08 pm • 0 0 • view
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JurgenPanzer @jurgenpanzer.bsky.social

Nope. Goodle the following wars India-Pakistan repeatedly, last time was like a month ago. India-China border conflict China-Soviet Union Israel few times lol United Kingdom Too lazy to name more

jun 19, 2025, 2:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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yensaw @yensaw.bsky.social

Out of that list, which countries still have functioning and deliverable weapons ?

jun 18, 2025, 6:30 am • 0 0 • view
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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

All

jun 18, 2025, 6:31 am • 1 0 • view
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Teesman @teesman.bsky.social

Soon to be added.. en.tempo.co/read/2019556...

jun 20, 2025, 9:27 am • 0 0 • view
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Misantrop @misantroppo.bsky.social

there is already talk of a Nordic-developed and share nuclear umbrella

jun 18, 2025, 6:51 am • 10 1 • view
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arcite.bsky.social @arcite.bsky.social

France recently.....and quietly announced they are modernizing and expanding their nuclear capability.

jun 18, 2025, 6:33 am • 4 0 • view
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arcite.bsky.social @arcite.bsky.social

Saudi/Egypt/Turkey can all develop nukes within a decade if they wish - all are building out the necessary infrastructure. It's a rational response to the current madness.

jun 18, 2025, 6:31 am • 8 2 • view
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Bob Thomas @bobthomas2666.bsky.social

Building & maintaining a nuclear arsenal is prohibitively expensive for most nations, perhaps even Russia. In 2024 the US spent $51 billion on maintaining & modernizing it's nuclear arsenal. That was the sum total of Russia's ENTIRE military budget.

jun 18, 2025, 8:20 am • 4 1 • view
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Capt Pugwash @smart-casual.bsky.social

Also, minor point- Russia's defence budget is $145bn, and it would need to be adjusted for PPP to make a valid comparison.

jul 8, 2025, 10:15 am • 0 0 • view
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Capt Pugwash @smart-casual.bsky.social

$51bn is also twice the entire GDP of North Korea, and they have a successful nuclear program.

jul 8, 2025, 10:09 am • 1 0 • view
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Fermion @weylfermion.bsky.social

south korea might go nuclear. I mean they already have submarine launched hyunmoo missiles North korea might not be big enough of a threat though The nations facing the biggest threats from their adversaries (iran, ukraine) also face the biggest counterproliferation. Might be tough

jun 18, 2025, 6:18 am • 5 0 • view
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Fermion @weylfermion.bsky.social

Even if iran built a functional device, what delivery platform can they use? It would not be miniturized

jun 18, 2025, 6:20 am • 1 0 • view
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Fermion @weylfermion.bsky.social

Hwasong-10 may be the only option. Big missile for a big payload

jun 18, 2025, 6:21 am • 1 0 • view
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Rhel’ir Kahnuunsa @oomf.bsky.social

have you seen the Hyunmoo-5? That thing looks like it's as big as a Minuteman III

Hyunmoo-5 transporter-erector-launcher (TEL)
jun 18, 2025, 6:23 am • 1 0 • view
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Fermion @weylfermion.bsky.social

Wow! Yeah it's impressive. Especially considering that Hyunmoo-2 is suspected to have been derived from Iskander

jun 18, 2025, 6:25 am • 1 0 • view
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Fermion @weylfermion.bsky.social

Hyunmoo 2A for reference

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jun 18, 2025, 6:27 am • 1 0 • view
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Fermion @weylfermion.bsky.social

Iskander

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jun 18, 2025, 6:27 am • 1 0 • view
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Rhel’ir Kahnuunsa @oomf.bsky.social

if the speculated throw weight / mass is 8 tons (36 gross tons) that eerily matches the LGM-30

jun 18, 2025, 6:27 am • 1 0 • view
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Rhel’ir Kahnuunsa @oomf.bsky.social

(source: www.iiss.org/online-analy... )

jun 18, 2025, 6:24 am • 1 0 • view
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RiggerJay @riggerjay.bsky.social

guess its a good time to remind people of this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF...

jun 18, 2025, 1:46 pm • 0 0 • view
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Otohiko @otohiko.bsky.social

I think the two countries to watch most closely on this will be South Korea and Poland.

jun 18, 2025, 6:27 am • 10 0 • view
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JurgenPanzer @jurgenpanzer.bsky.social

Worry not forwe 🇵🇱are utterly uncapable of having a nuclear weapons development project.

jun 19, 2025, 2:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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Bluegoose @ibmninja.bsky.social

I'd argue we've been here for 30 years.

jul 8, 2025, 7:47 am • 1 0 • view
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The Analyst @militaryanalyst.bsky.social

Those who have them will feel they can do whatever they like unpunished, so goes the theory. Yet Russia has failed to prove their capabilities stop them facing ultimate defeat in Ukraine - their own economic incompetence will do that along with their military weaknesses on the battlefield. Those

jun 18, 2025, 8:12 am • 4 0 • view
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The Analyst @militaryanalyst.bsky.social

who have them deter those with them, but beyond that they mean nothing. Use would result in destruction on a scale that’s unthinkable unless you are frankly a zealot willing to destroy yourself and your country just to make a point. That has always been a danger.

jun 18, 2025, 8:12 am • 4 0 • view
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Jon Hallin @jonhallin.bsky.social

Considering how often russia likes to wave their nukes around, and how many Western politicans seem to take them somewhat seriously, or at least use it as an excuse to not help Ukraine, I'd say russia has gotten their money's worth from them. Without them, the war would have been over long ago.

jun 27, 2025, 10:56 am • 1 0 • view
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bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social @bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social

Some time ago there was also a strange remark by Taiwanese president that one has "special means" to respond to Chinese invasion threat - cannot find this anymore but here is something else 🔽 globalsecurityreview.com/taiwans-nucl...

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jun 27, 2025, 3:48 pm • 3 1 • view
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Mihai 🇷🇴🇳🇿 @mihai785.bsky.social

youtu.be/icSfjyIm_5w?...

jul 8, 2025, 8:17 am • 1 0 • view
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bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social @bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social

Interesting, thanks for sharing - although the Youtube channel seems a bit odd to me due to a lot of strange advertising for crypto-investments 🤔

jul 8, 2025, 2:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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Balazs Wirth @birthba.bsky.social

Is it just me, or are the majority of countries with nuclear weapons bad guys?

jun 18, 2025, 6:54 am • 0 0 • view
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Lord Flymo @lordflymo.bsky.social

Ukraine gave theirs up after the break-up of the USSR, look what happened to them.

jun 18, 2025, 6:34 am • 26 1 • view
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Bob Thomas @bobthomas2666.bsky.social

Most clear cut example of why nations must either possess nuclear weapons or be protected by an ally's nuclear umbrella.

jun 18, 2025, 8:17 am • 11 0 • view
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eihdin.bsky.social @eihdin.bsky.social

Worth noting that status of ally isn't constant. For example, one year ago USA appeared as trusted ally of Europe. But now its too doubtful So every nation should review own status

jun 18, 2025, 9:00 am • 13 0 • view
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Bob Thomas @bobthomas2666.bsky.social

The US continues to meet its NATO obligations. @jamming.bsky.social regularly posts notes about US air patrols in the Baltic for example. Definitely not the case for other NATO members for decades. I don't support Trump most of the time, but in this case even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

jun 18, 2025, 4:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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🇬🇧🇺🇦🇫🇮🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @robwfinland.bsky.social

Today, the USA is part of NATO but for how much longer? Most major European nations have had the ability to develop nuclear deterrence for half a century & it’s primarily been the USA’s reputation as a reliable ally that has led them to abjure independent deterrence. No more though, sadly.

jun 27, 2025, 11:05 am • 6 0 • view
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Bob Thomas @bobthomas2666.bsky.social

The UK & France also have a nuclear deterrent. When they start shooting their ICBMs from the Atlantic the Russians are not necessarily going to know it's them and not the US. Things get worse from there.

jun 27, 2025, 4:30 pm • 1 0 • view
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Fremen @fremen.bsky.social

There are plenty of bad guys on the list already.

jun 27, 2025, 10:43 am • 1 0 • view
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Rhel’ir Kahnuunsa @oomf.bsky.social

so much for the nuclear proliferation treaty

jun 18, 2025, 6:22 am • 1 0 • view
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Laura 4 NAFO @lmnash123.bsky.social

You mean the one russia and the US both signed with Ukraine, and then both broke?

jun 18, 2025, 6:25 am • 4 0 • view
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Andrew Bennett @larthallor.bsky.social

He means the NPT. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_...

jun 18, 2025, 6:39 am • 3 0 • view
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Laura 4 NAFO @lmnash123.bsky.social

Yes, I know. I meant the "Memorandum on security assurances in connection with Ukraine’s accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons" Otherwise known as the Budapest Memorandum. The assurances given to Ukraine in return for their joining the NPT. Assurances now broken.

jun 18, 2025, 6:43 am • 9 0 • view
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Laura 4 NAFO @lmnash123.bsky.social

Can't imagine why the NPT is now falling apart, it's such a mystery.

jun 18, 2025, 6:44 am • 8 0 • view
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2davey4me.bsky.social @2davey4me.bsky.social

Looks like it’s time to refer to the ancient texts: youtu.be/Pk-kbjw0Y8U?...

jun 18, 2025, 9:03 am • 2 0 • view
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drotor.bsky.social @drotor.bsky.social

And Canada with the US ones “on loan”.

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shrimpshell.bsky.social @shrimpshell.bsky.social

South Korea allowing the North to obtain nuclear weapons will go down as one of the greatest geopolitical fumbles of all time

jun 18, 2025, 10:39 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stevie @officialstehee.bsky.social

Saudi…what about Saudi (via Pakistan)?

jun 27, 2025, 11:10 am • 1 0 • view
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bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social @bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social

More here: georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2024/12/18/t...

jun 27, 2025, 3:43 pm • 1 0 • view
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bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social @bioinorgchemuw.bsky.social

Was also my thought ... www.bbc.com/news/world-m...

jun 27, 2025, 3:43 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stefan @stunn.bsky.social

Nukes are not easy to obtain and smaller economies will absolutely need help from a existing nuclear power to get them. I can spot only one country in your list which is desparate enough to do this, which is Russia of course.

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Laki @lakitukl.bsky.social

H I Agree. Given how hot a topic it is - is there a #DefenceSky feed or equivalent?

jun 18, 2025, 9:43 am • 0 0 • view
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psymad.bsky.social @psymad.bsky.social

Yes and we will enter a era of "new nuke" from an economic POV. Like the "new space" paradigm : new actors and new production process will make cheaper nukes available. To produce nuclear material : - Silex enrichment process (australia) - FREGAT plutonium separation process (Czech rep.)

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psymad.bsky.social @psymad.bsky.social

For vector : - Solid state navigation system for missile, reduced cost and size - hybrid motor, storable liquid fuel, electric pump - 3D printed motors - composite casing - low cost cruise missiles - off the shelf components (guidance, motor, servo)

jul 8, 2025, 7:56 am • 1 0 • view
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psymad.bsky.social @psymad.bsky.social

For Vector carrier : - AIP submarine - ground based vehicle It will be a complete new paradigm with relatively cheap systems, fast production cycles, much smaller industrial footprint

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dogj.bsky.social @dogj.bsky.social

Unfortunately with the failure of defence alliances any nation that is… 1. Dependent upon another’s nuclear deterrent, and 2. Can afford to or has the means to …Will be forced to develop nuclear weapons. NATO will be a crucible of proliferation as the US walks away.

jun 27, 2025, 11:36 am • 3 1 • view
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dogj.bsky.social @dogj.bsky.social

Find it hard to imagine that France providing a European nuclear umbrella will outlast Macron. UK will soon need to consider developing a back-up delivery system. Probably air dropped bomb, home-made B61-12 if MDA survives/WE 177 resurrection otherwise??

jun 27, 2025, 11:49 am • 5 1 • view
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Marcel Vacarme @okokjepars.bsky.social

Wow this is utterly nuts. We need a way to have less nuclear weapons, not more.

jun 19, 2025, 3:38 am • 1 0 • view
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Jason 🌻 @gotalightboy.bsky.social

I wonder if Brazil retained their research from the 1970s and 80s.

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ixplanatl @ixplanatl.bsky.social

It's scary because the last time a nuke has been used was so long ago. With more nukes, sooner or later someone is going to challenge "the bluff", and we'll be reminded of the horrors of nuclear weapons

jun 18, 2025, 6:26 am • 2 0 • view