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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

34. The French term for the sail/fin is ‘kiosk’, although some would argue that’s old fashioned (like conning tower)

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Eric H @sr2ndblack.bsky.social

How long ago are we talking for Old Fashioned? I was a midshipman starting in '06 (unable to commission for medical) and definitely learned it as conning tower from the LT.

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

Which navy? I’m not fussed, but conning tower was when there was an chamber in it for the conn

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Eric H @sr2ndblack.bsky.social

U.S. College program midshipman at U of SC.

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Eric H @sr2ndblack.bsky.social

And that LT served on boomers.

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

Interesting Was ‘sail’ also used on your submarine?

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Eric H @sr2ndblack.bsky.social

Not that I recall.

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

In 1950s when USN & RN started streamlining it they switched terminology to sail/fin, partly to emphasize the change I think

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nachodc.bsky.social @nachodc.bsky.social

Curious, in spanish, the word "kiosco" or "quiosco" is used when refering to newsstand/paper shop business

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Thomas @thomasthefrench.bsky.social

Kiosque in french is a little structure. You can find them in public gardens where some musicians can play for instance. It is also a little structure where people sell stuff (newspaper, flower, whatever). And the submarine's top structures. (But I'm not sure while it would sound old fashion 😅)

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nachodc.bsky.social @nachodc.bsky.social

Here in spain "kiosko" means the same for 2 of the 3 cases, for the submarine top structure, is called the "vela" (sail) of the submarine.

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

The Spanish choice might simply be because after WW2 they got subs from America before later adopting French subs

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Kristian Larsson @naktor.bsky.social

In Swedish it is, as far as I understand, "torn" i.e. tower or turret.

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

35. Anyone who wants to seriously argue, or worse belittle others, based on the use of these terms is a plank and best avoided

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CS_McVey @cs-mcvey.bsky.social

Isn't it tragic how no WW1 submarines survive? Those boats had real conning towers. I mean, U-1, but that was a training boat only, already obsolete in 1914. Kerosene-powered attack submarine...

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

Yes See post .38

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

36. LNG tankers are probably a lot harder to blow up than most people imagine (Admittedly I’ve never tried)

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Federally Licensed Elk @an-elk.bsky.social

I'd guess the second torpedo hit would do the job. The first opens a tank and aerates the gas, the second ignites it. If this is a scenario, there is probably also a time component, as you need sufficient time for the gas to deliquefy.

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Federally Licensed Elk @an-elk.bsky.social

Then again, liquid gas is heavier than air, so normal ship destruction processes apply. Open a hole big enough underwater in the hull and normal fluid dynamics start doing their thing. (This is an interesting question. I'm at least one navy has researched it.)

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

37. The holy hand grenade of Antioch, only bigger

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jessRob @jesseroberts.bsky.social

😂😂😂 www.youtube.com/shorts/HBB3D...

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

38. The German UC-1 and follow-on UC-2 classes were the most successful submarines ever, but they are largely forgotten. They sunk ships by laying mines.

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JAMPH @jamph.bsky.social

Mines are just underrated in general. There's a reason we Aussies keep a decent stockpile of Stonefish around.

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Gareth Jones @garethjones.bsky.social

The Germans didn't really go for (the smaller) sub minelayers in WW2. Any idea why? Maritime patrol aircraft? Payload considered too small? Focus on convoys?

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

39. The Soviet Ushakov flying submarine was a terrible idea. Only famous for fanboy reasons

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Jeff @jeffm2018.bsky.social

Now that is something I would have drawn as a kid.

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

40. The VA-111 Shkval rocket powered supercavitating torpedo is much overrated. It’s interesting but nowhere near the superweapon the internet makes out

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Indy75012🇺🇦 @indy75012.bsky.social

Could you please elaborate about that ? I heard it was fast but very noisy and nearly impossible to change direction. That once fired and despite being fast, targets could nevertheless evade it if quick enough. Is that it ?

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Dominix @dominix.bsky.social

It is supposed to work as a self-defense weapon: Russian sub hears enemy sub firing torpedoes and fires much faster Shkval at it in response. Noise is irrelevant in this scenario, since the enemy already knows the location. But how/if this can work in practice, is a really good question.

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Indy75012🇺🇦 @indy75012.bsky.social

No direction change : can only be useful at short range, no ?

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Dominix @dominix.bsky.social

I read about it having some sort of terminal guidance, but I have no idea how can this work in practice. As originally conceived it had a small nuclear warhead and this version could be practical.

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Kristian Larsson @naktor.bsky.social

Are they available in a conventional version, or only with a nuclear warhead?

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

41. The Royal Navy's Coastal Motor Boats (CMB) from WW1 were incredible works of art. See a beautiful replica at Boathouse 4, Portsmouth.

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Stormness @stormness.bsky.social

Stunning! 😮

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

42. The WP-18 interceptor is probably the fastest naval vessel (some claim faster but.. ) speed 65 knots +

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

43. Interceptor boats built by Irish company Safe Haven Marine are also wicked quick, but they are also specialised for particularly heavy seas. If they roll over, they self-right.

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passagrill.bsky.social @passagrill.bsky.social

👀

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H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social

44. Admiral Sir Sidney Smith is the forgotten British hero of the Napoleonic Wars. A contemporary (and sometimes rival, later friend) of Nelson, he deserves far greater recognition than he gets (or got at the time, at least by the establishment who largely resented his conspicuous success).

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Tom @taschoene.bsky.social

Are we talking current or historical? SES-100B hit at least 75 knots (wiki says 96 knots in trials, but doesn't source that).

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Guy Baddis @guybaddis.bsky.social

oops

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