I swear to fucking god knock this dumb bullshit off and stand against fascism and offer some actual solutions to make peoples lives better or get the hell out of the way for people who will. Just painfully embarassing and infuriating.
I swear to fucking god knock this dumb bullshit off and stand against fascism and offer some actual solutions to make peoples lives better or get the hell out of the way for people who will. Just painfully embarassing and infuriating.
i'm not sure how to feel anything but cynical at this point dude
Like forcing republicans to shut down Congress to avoid talking about Epstein?
This is akin to suddenly seeing all of the Democrats swearing or whatever in their videos to show they’re down with the regular folk.
Oh. My. God. 🤦🏻♀️
Perhaps you are not the target audience.
this is a democracy so we are allowed to reject politicians that actively ignore our demands
Primary the entire establishment gerontocratic leadership - we need new (younger) blood
That's exactly the problem. They don't know who their audience should BE. Or what they should DO.
that's because nobody is the target audience for this shit
Who is the target audience? People who didn't vote for Colin Allred in 2024 but now will because they have confirmation that he works out, something they couldn't piece together from him being a former linebacker?
Unironically? Yes, exactly. The target seems to be people who don't know who he is or any lines of his bio.
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They don't want to DO anything. They want to SIGNAL that they're doing something. Which is, as you say, embarrassing, infuriating dumb bullshit. We see it. It's terrible.
If that is all you see then that is terrible.
Oh? I see a party leadership supine, doing little-to-nothing to answer the current moment, which is nothing less than the advent of an authoritarian regime that has already established concentration camps and is planning worse. If you do NOT see that, then that is a thousand times more terrible.
Do you see that Congress is shut down because Dems were forcing votes on releasing the Epstein files?
I see a party leadership that is MORE CONCERNED about a socialist Democrat threatening their control of the party (and their money) than the problems of having Roe destroyed, most of the state machinery that serves people being destroyed, and the health infrastructure being wrecked. So do go on.
Do you want to talk or are you gonna get offended and block me like the other Democrat blowhard with the “Twitter” stats?
What do you want the party not in control of either house to do? Drop suggestions here bc I’m listening. Just don’t say these Democrats aren’t being authentic by reaching out using part of their daily routine. That is like saying Tx Rep James Talarico is inauthentic talking about religion.
“Pick me” DNC 2026 campaign slogan
There is a reason everyone loves Harrison Ford even though he hates almost everyone.
Both/and? Hokey bullshit can work if you marry it to a message. Zohran Mamdami did.
Mamdani did not. He presented an authenticity based in basic humanity that ran counter to the artifice and bullshit of modern politics. This is try-hard, performative horseshit that will work on exactly no one while continuing to distract from the actual problems they don’t want to address.
So a former NFL player, medical doctor, and veteran showing they practice mental and physical health they learned over life experience is inauthentic? If Bernie Sanders jumped off a treadmill and talking, you might have a point. These candidates are just being authentic to breakthrough and connect.
Sir, I donated and volunteered for his campaign ... Repeatedly. I am an avowed socialist. I am also someone who likes keeping terms clear. Walking Manhattan and saying high to everyone is devoid of intrinsic political meaning. It is a stunt. But that's fine! It worked to support a candidate I like!
Unfortunately, politics requires stunts. It's part of the reason Trump was successful as he spent 15 years doing "reality" TV to build the recognition that allowed him to run a national campaign. I do think Zohran is sincere and genuine.
Also—dudes who lift posting lift content IS authentic. Colin Allred is a former NFL player, and probably knows more about lifting than the other dudes who post.
embarrassing
THIS. all this LeftRogan shit is straight out of the rightwing playbook- WE demand SOLUTIONS and POLICY IDEAS. THEY are forever looking for a new spokesmodel who can con hapless prejudiced bellends into taking one more suck on their dessicated turd sandwich buffet.
Agreed. Unless every one of these workout posts is titled, “Day _ of my preparation for punching Nazis.”
Disagree. I think this kind of thing is fine. Roganpodbros are not into detailed policy proposals or table-thumping philosophical warnings about Fascism. Rightists in America lean very hatd into the idea that they're "tough" people, physically and mentally. This is a simple way to push back.
*hard. I appear to be incapable of posting more than a sentence on my phone without a typo.
LOL who the fuck cares what rightists lean into!?!?
A lot of voters.
Leaning right is what got us into this fucking mess. No fascist cultist is going to vote Dem because he saw some politicians working out 🥴
Another way to look at it: you and Sexton are not the target audience.
Also it’s not hard to learn that Colin Allred played in the NFL, anyone calling him soft or whatever is an attention-seeking dork, we don’t need the sweat pics.
You don’t need it, but the same could be said about Tx State Rep James Talarico talking about his religion. I think they both are authentic and I appreciate that more than anything else.
You hit on the key concept there. It’s ironic that they probably undertake these kinds of videos with the aim of showing they’re “real people,” and the hokeyness of them only amplifies the inauthenticity voters perceive in the replacement-level Dem.
You don’t feel they’re authentic?
Preening and ineffectual is no way to go through life.
Perhaps we should start fixing our rigged voting systems before worrying about trying to pull Republican voters?
It is about independent voters, but you can worry about republicans aka MAGA 🙄
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As if this kind of performative BS is actually going to move anyone!
Is James Talarico talking about religion performative or authentic? It’s about connecting somewhere outside of R and D party and building on the similarities. There are just as many people who workout as there are people doing Bible study. You can’t have it both ways.
Frustrated by Democrats' refusal to meet the moment but embarrassed mostly that this is the sort of shit you must consider if you want to appeal to this electorate, consider that twice-elected Trump's entire political career has been nothing but performative bullshit.
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Sweet Innocent Little Cherub: “What did you do during The Decline, grandpa?” Grandpa: “I lifted weights to try to appeal to the ‘manosphere.’” SILC: /dies of dysentery in a hovel in a bombed-out husk of NYC
Grandpa: I kept doing the same thing I did in 2016 and 2024 🙄
And just when I thought paternalism was dying a well-earned death.
Stand up to fucking bullies. Thats hot.
Jared I swear to fucking God that Im sick of the world that revolves around stupid men.
Hey, the Democrats political strategy against Trump is when you can't beat them just kiss their behinds and whisper all is forgiven if they just vote for them, no matter their fascist, racist, misogynist, bigoted political views.
Dems can't win. No matter what they do it's just criticizing again and again. Just like Biden. Trump fucks up everyday and is a bald face criminal and yet we are criticizing Dems. This will fix our problems for sure.
Biden is 1-0 in presidential elections. Facts matter.
Unbelievable! They are mindless ghouls.
Co-signed
They are being fleeced by their consultants. Better if they just go on speaking tours to explain to people what is going on.
A-fucking-men
If it's someone like Colin Alred tho it's fine. I mean dude probably works out 5 times a week or more so it's not a bullshit thing!
But no one gives a shit.
There is no one thing for everyone. This will reach some people.
What Jared said. It's pandering and everyone can see through it. This will turn way more people off than it appeals to.
Pandering? It is part of their daily routine they use for mental and physical health. Turn off people? Have you seen how many Democrats running to the doors to become independent? Wake up and read the room.
18-29 year old men give a shit. The fact that you can't watch a YouTube on a video game review, weight lifting tutorial, or even browse for a car without being "recommended" into the right wing or seeing an ad for some neo-nazi adjacent think tank is a REALLY big problem.
WOW! I didn't know this. I don't care how they appear, it's their thinking that matters. I wouldn't think that would work but what do I know.
Exactly.
They do give a shit but they have been drawn into an ecosystem and the door is shut behind them. Democrats will never reach them via this pandering. They see through it and everyone else does. On top of being embarassing, it doesn’t work. The only thing left is to start offering aggressive solutions
Democrats won't reach voters by policy either. The only people who thinks policy matter are people who get paid to trash Democrat policy. Let me put it this way - if flooding the internet with ads on weightlifting videos isn't effective - why did Republicans spend millions on it?
Because their core audience is the manosphere? But unless you embrace the rest of the macho bullshit then it's just pandering.
No. You've got your cause and effect backwards. They go to watch weight lifting videos or a game review and get sucked INTO the manosphere because there are no positive roll models on the left competing for the space. Weightlifting got them to Rogan. Rogan got them to crypto. Crypto to Trump.
I mean if Adam Schiff or someone was doing this I'd get it but Colin Alred is legit he played in the NFL no less. It's fine.
Exactly. Jason Crow would be another example. Former Ranger AND a Democrat. He knows a thing or two about both fitness and leadership.
It is effective for one small chunk of voters. There are millions of more voters who it won't be effective for and may even alienate. Instead of chasing a bunch of incel losers who will never move away from the gop, go after people who may be moved.
Maybe stopping insulting everyone who likes weight lifting or fitness as "incel losers" would be a good start.
I am not insulting weightlifters as incel losers. There are plenty of reasonable and normal dudes that work out. But incel losers are part of that group and I am saying there is no need to waste time trying to get them. There are plenty of other people who they can go after that may be open to Dems.
But the only people they have for role models in those segments are Republicans and neo nazis. So either A) you prevent your kid from being interested in sports B) they get sucked into the manosphere, and all of the stuff that goes with it.
I lift, but if I incorporated it into my public space or hinged my identity around it as a means of communicating it to others in order to “reach them,” I think that would be pretty pathetic.
So again - why did Republicans spend 10s of millions of dollars on website ads to appear on weight lifting, fitness, gaming, and tech review sites if it doesn't work? Why did they have Hulk Hogan at the RNC? Why do they photoshop Trump onto Rocky Balboa? Because. Voters. Respond. To. It.
They did the Hogan thing and the photoshops and the obsession with 'roided out dudes because their specific base of weirdo incel dudes respond to it. Normal people do not. Normal people see it as weird, because it is.
The reality is that many of your colleagues make a LOT more money when Republicans are in power. It doesn't matter what policies Democrats have because the media simply will either a) lie about them, b) undercut them, or c) pretend they don't have them. There is no money in supporting Democrats.
I’m not talking policy. I’m not talking means tested bullshit that no one wants but it sounds good while doing practically nothing. I’m talking about a broad, ambitious, aggressive agenda that fights entrenched power and wealth and outlines a future far different from the present.
You mean like Biden had which pundits lied about for 4 years because they were mad about book deals being canceled and that he wouldn't give them the access that Trump does? Because Biden's economy was the most progressive that we'll see in our lifetimes, and both the right AND left shit on it.
If your agenda is so weak and you’re so unwilling to fight for it that a coal baron in West Virginia and a corporate stooge in Arizona could derail it completely and the opposition was free to malign and define it with no pushback then I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing.
It's fine
How about you read the fucking article you reference? This is about getting a fucking audience to get that fucking message out. These things are not mutually exclusive. Jesus
They read the article, it's fucking pathetic.
Like we can't tell the difference between looking like they might be considering contemplating actually doing something compared to actually doing something.
Omfg
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Allred is a former NFL player, I doubt this is performative
It's great for his health but does nothing for the millions about to lose healthcare.
He doesn’t say his workouts will do that just like James Talarico’s talk about his religion is gonna help those losing healthcare. Just be authentic and connect with the people and then get wonky. It isn’t hard.
Oh ffs. How much weight training does Mitch McConnell or Clarence Thomas do?
Does Clarence Thomas have to run for office or reach out to anyone other than someone who is giving away RVs or overpaying for his property?
We could just spend some of our millions supporting our own influencers and podcasters that reach these audiences.
Great example of how bringing in youth or the “Young Guns” without experience got us to party of MAGA.
That’s a really bizarre choice
Toxic masculinity 🤣🤣🤣
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Exactly!!!
So when the mid terms don’t actually turn out to be “free and fair”….what will the gym bunnies do?
I feel ya on this…. But we need to reach more certain type of men and younger ish men are getting spoon fed far right propaganda I think this is smart. Not my style but the stuff YouTube tries to feed me is right up this alley.
Those types of men have been told over and over that if they consider having sympathy or principles like those in the Democratic Party, they're not real men, "woke". Meanwhile, those who do have principles see Democrats trying to get bipartisanship with the fascist party. bsky.app/profile/atru...
It was either this or another focus group I suppose.