BREAKING: California Secretary of State Shirley Weber has approved a campaign to gather signatures petitioning for a vote on whether California should leave the U.S. and become an independent country, per Newsweek
BREAKING: California Secretary of State Shirley Weber has approved a campaign to gather signatures petitioning for a vote on whether California should leave the U.S. and become an independent country, per Newsweek
100% do not blame California, if they could keep their own money, they should.
Wait wait wait let me in first!!!
We should start a similar petition here in New England. At least Vermont to Massachusetts would make a good addition to Canada.
CT here. I just said the same thing NE should too.
We probably could get Maine involved but much of NH is like driving through Mordor.
Oregon here. Can we come too?
+1 for Oregon! And we can bring our friend, Washington!
I’d love to hear from proponents of this how exactly they’d accomplish it. it seems like a pipe dream to me.
Especially since California itself seems to want to divide into three States.
I thought it was only 2 states. North and south.
Nope. The last proposal was Draper’s initiative called Cal 3, a proposal to divide California into three states.
Yeah Jefferson is the third proposed state
How could I forget that? I have driven through that county several times, and it is scary. I've heard it's been proposed for decades claiming neglect from CA gov. Now it's a little less subtle. It's MAGA territory now. Militias are out in the open. Signs for training camps. It's scary.
California can't choose to leave any more than Texas can. There simply is not provision for it in US law. If anyone wants to secede from the Union it would have to be by force.
Doesn't need to be. Britain left EU peacefully, why can't we? CA can choose to do it. It's not forbidden in the constitution.
The EU is a member organisation. That's a very different situation than a federated country. The question is not whether it is forbidden but whether it is allowed and there is no provision in the constitution that allows states to secede. The Supreme Court also ruled secession unlawful.
So for any state to secede laws would need to be amended and there would need to be acquiescence from both other states and the federal government for secession to occur and with all the complexities involved that is not likely to happen.
What do red states do when Cali doesn’t pay for their food stamps ?
I can assure you that Red State leaders give zero fucks about their food stamp recipients well being
So, in other words, Shirley Weber, like Trump, believes states should fight for themselves and to hell with that "United" nonsense. Cowards run. Defenders of our democracy would band together and fight.
This is dumb.
I fully support California becoming their own country and all the collateral damage that every red state would endure.
California could also ask to join Canada as a Province, we are not perfect but we do have a lot going for us.
Join Canada. We’re pretty cool.
Taking Michigan would make sense lol
We can be a very big tent. Michigan is welcomed too.
Send us the invite.  we will bring the wine.
😀
Yes yes yes 👍
Canada will welcome them
Yes please
Just realized you can't edit on bs. Would love to see an EU type thing with Canada, California and others others where you have similar laws, protections and buy medicine in bulk etc
Very cool, but won't happen.
I'm moving to CA if this happens!
Anyone whining about “this is against the constitution…”What the f*ck are you saying about what Donald Trump & the GOP have been doing to the constitution!? That insurrectionist/felon/rapist shouldn’t have been allowed to run per section 3 of the 14th amendment. Yet the MAGAts will cheer for him. 🖕
Let’s Go!!!!!!
Primer paso para la guerra civil americana
*segunda
I support this.
Have passport, will travel
I live in the PNW but was born in LA. Can I get birthright citizenship?
Dooooo it!!!
This is so stupid
@tinakotek.bsky.social ..... Can we get the same going?
They could do it. California's economy ranks fifth internationally, behind the US, China, Germany, and Japan.
You might want to drop a link for that one bub.
We welcome California to Canada !
Why not try? It’s not crazier than most ideas these days. Can I become Californian? I’m nice, I work hard, and I pay my taxes.
Smells like civil war
That’s illegal, but ok.
I get the sentiment, but it's exactly what the ppl pulling Trumps strings want.
if everyone wants it, why shouldn't it happen?
I'd rather cali stay and fight on with the rest of us
Maybe don’t repost stuff that has Russian origins. Ignore and continue on.
Aight.
he is much to old... do let basically dead people into politics..
It was a joke....
No thanks. Been there done that.
As a CA resident, I would 100% support this
I wish they would. Or would at least cut off their economy from the fed. The US would collapse without their woke dollars Trump hates so much.
let’s go!
California Will be a State Brother for Spain!
😂 They are doing it again.
I think it’s a wonderful idea!
Don’t start this. It just encourages those Texas nitwits. You want to throw shade? Stop payments on all federal taxes from California until the Trump freeze lifts.
Fk texas
As a blue dot in a red state, I support this. Almost every Magat who backs Trump has intentionally and willfully defrauded the government using state funds.
Fuck what Texas thinks. Greg Abbott would love for the Lone Star State to secede while receiving full federal funding for their inhumane bullshit regardless.
I agree with the sentiment, but California doesn’t pay federal taxes, its people and businesses do. How does Newsom do that?
If Texas wants to leave, let them leave. Honestly, that would be an even better solution.
I’m in Nevada. Can we join?
This is exactly what the republicans want -- an excuse to send in Hegseth's military to shoot Californians. States cannot secede from the Union. Please find another way.
Calexit came from Russia - full stop. I would love to be our own country, but this is another REPUBLICAN-ENDORSED effort to weaken the United States and Californians in particular. CA would become an occupied territory of the US with MAGA brown shirts enforcing Trump's every whim.
Trump is almost 79. Soon he’ll either be a vegetable or dead.
You say that like it matters. He has no ideology on his own, this didn't come from him
Goals...
These orders and actions are not his
He already is a vegetable. They have a plan. He is just the weapon for as long as he can.
Broken clocks, Russia is ready to collapse on its own anyways
It's not a Republican-endorse effort to weaken the US. Why would they do that with their guy in charge of the US? It's Californians deciding for themselves whether to remain or be a free and independent country. CalExit is run by Californians who want freedom and independence.
Shut up. This is not a new idea, it's a couple hundred years old. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadi...
No- the CA national guard + just about every able bodied CA resident will fight back and wipe that filth from our soil. The US military hasn’t been able to effectively deal with a ground war in over 50 years. + other states would join. We have reached the time for civil war and revolution
Never ends well.
Literally just talking to my dad about whether to move back to California or overseas. If any state could do it, Cali could
California should secede based on the States' rights arguments Republicans always make. California is a big payer into the Federal treasury and the 5th largest economy in the world. Seceding would make California more prosperous and severely damage Red States who depend on California for everything
I just read that California sent 82 billion dollars more in taxes to the federal government than it received in 2022. This was just for 2022. Crazy!
Yes indeed California should withhold it's federal taxes and just rebuild California with their money. The US needs California more than California needs the US and it has been that way for a long time.
We need to stay united and fight this pos !!
Seems to me united has been over for years now.
The movement to secede is unlikely to succeed. (groan) But, it will get attention and force discussions about Trump's aggression to half the population. The 5th largest economy is nothing to take lightly.
What a waste of time. Let’s focus on the serious stuff instead.
They should fucking do it.
The prophecy is fulfilling: bsky.app/profile/bird...
www.sos.ca.gov/administrati...
Fake law. Just establishes a commission which will report back that it's not legal.
I feel like I've seen this movie....
This is what they (other authoritarian world leaders) want, to weaken the US so it's easier to take over.
Would be funny if they voted for this considering that Texas always threatened this and could never actually do it.
Don’t give in, this is a russian backed initiative to further divide us.
I love that for CA. Can we do it for NY too ? If the goal is to " give power to the states" and we arent "united" on major rights issues anymore so we might as well just become 50 seperate countries.
Acting like Texas.
They’re a hell of a lot better equipped to do so than Texas, and Texans never shut up about that shit.
When in Texas you'll see tons of cowboy boots and hats on folks who've never been on a horse and only time they got near a cow was at Longhorn.
“All hat and no cattle” is a very useful phrase.
That's a questionable claim at best. Texas is just as equipped as Cali to be independent. Those two are probably the only states capable of it.
You must be Texan.
No, but unlike you I've actually been there.
lol, I lived there. First thing someone told me about when I moved was how they could secede if they wanted to. My point is that California has the the world’s 5th largest economy. Conversely, the entire state of Texas is at risk of losing power when it’s cold out.
California is also currently on fire, so how's that economy helping? Texas is one of the only states capable of having a green budget without federal contributions, Cali hasn't had a year it wasn't red in decades.
Going to California
Wasn't this in discussion several years ago as well?
It would be funny if Trump's gold course was eminent domain'd
Constitutionally, secession of a state from the Union is not permitted. The last attempt led to the bloodiest civil war in American history.
Sure seems like the Constitution doesn’t mean as much as it used to….just sayin’
The Constitution seems irrelevant these days.
Not true. It's not designated in the constitution & anything not designated defaults to the states. The southern secession was to keep slavery, necessitating war. Blue state secession is righteous since an adjudicated insurrectionist can't be president. Our contract, the Constitution, is void.
What is not allowed is unilateral sucession. There is nothing at all in the constitution of 1787 which would make it illegal for Congress and California to come to an agreement to go their own separate ways.