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Elly @ellyraying.bsky.social

And given most people don't have a choice who they work for, a job is a job and rent needs paying, food buying, kids need clothing. This statement reeks of privilege.

aug 2, 2025, 9:35 am • 5 0

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Maryjka @maryjka.bsky.social

Auschwitz guards said same..

aug 3, 2025, 12:20 pm • 0 0 • view
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George Monbiot @georgemonbiot.bsky.social

Dear God ... you contribute whether or not it is your choice, just as conscripted soldiers contribute to the prosecution of a war.

aug 2, 2025, 9:39 am • 3 1 • view
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Julie Bygraves @juliebygraves.bsky.social

Almost everyone has some level of choice: Reducing consumption to the bare minimum Reducing working hours Moving to a lower cost home Sharing work and parental commitments Growing some of one’s own food Acting regeneratively Choice is always there bsky.app/profile/juli...

aug 2, 2025, 9:50 am • 4 1 • view
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Elly @ellyraying.bsky.social

Once again, presumptuous. Do you have the slightest notion of the numbers of people who have no more to cut, who can't afford to grow food or don't have that space. This is a very middle class take.

aug 2, 2025, 12:26 pm • 1 0 • view
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Julie Bygraves @juliebygraves.bsky.social

That interpretation is a choice. I know of people who aren’t wealthy who grow together. If people ask for collaborative growing space, they get it. It’s often a mindset.

aug 2, 2025, 12:42 pm • 2 0 • view
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Theresa from Vermont @theresavermont.bsky.social

Read an interesting paragraph by a small chicken farmer about how average people vastly underestimate the amount of land or space it takes to farm. The number of eggs from her farm wouldn't feed the town. She started calculating the number and space needed for pigs, all not near population cores.

aug 2, 2025, 12:49 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jacky @jacky3344.bsky.social

Except we're not talking about livestock farming here. It's amazing how much veg you can grow in a square metre bed. And then how differently you see what's for sale in the supermarket.

aug 2, 2025, 1:20 pm • 3 0 • view
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Maryjka @maryjka.bsky.social

yeah, but collaboration of ant sort is out of fashion now. It's only 'me me me first', and 'greed is good'...

aug 3, 2025, 12:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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Elly @ellyraying.bsky.social

In which case who are these rebellious saviours supposed to be, have I misunderstood the article and your previous comment? I took it to mean (given the war analogy) that we should all be conscientious objectors, even though most of us have that stripped away thanks to systems like UC

aug 2, 2025, 12:34 pm • 0 0 • view
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Neil @neiljl.bsky.social

So a minimum wage cleaner on minimum wage struggling to feed their family working at an oil company is 'being a dick' according to the article It must be great for those that have the choice, for many there is no choice Such rhetoric isn't the way to convince people

aug 2, 2025, 10:01 am • 3 1 • view
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rockhouse.bsky.social @rockhouse.bsky.social

I don't think he's talking about people on minimum wage.

aug 2, 2025, 5:39 pm • 0 0 • view
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Elly @ellyraying.bsky.social

Exactly.

aug 2, 2025, 10:14 am • 2 0 • view
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Matthew Jee @freedomforall.net

George doesn't realise he's one of these: "The lessons he has drawn are often striking: people are fundamentally egalitarian but are led to collapses by enriched, status-obsessed elites ..."

aug 2, 2025, 11:39 am • 1 0 • view