Zuckerberg runs Instagram, Facebook and Threads the exact same way
Zuckerberg runs Instagram, Facebook and Threads the exact same way
I mean it explains why the web is going to shit. In 2010 I remember when it was all about building networks of deep trustworthy links so search engines could seperate the signal from the noise. Now its all noise and knives out
We absolutely need to get back to this.
Broadly, I can agree, but Mosseri recently explicitly said they don't downrank posts with links on Threads like this. Can grab a link.
www.threads.net/@mosseri/pos...
Which is why I'm backing away from Zuckerberg's Zoo, too.
I’ll probably stick with Facebook, but mostly to connect with friends and look at adds for merino wool clothing. 😁
I do FB to search for music events in my area. Not much of a poster.
You're right, but its not just social media. Websites have always tried to encourage people to stay on them, so they disincentivize going to other sites. Think about it like this: a TV station saying "don't touch that dial". Websites likewise don't want you to "change the channel", basically.
But there's a big difference in saying "don't touch that dial" or "stay tune," and, say, allowing one to only change the channel during an ad. Or in this case limiting who sees your content because it features an external link or a differing, harmless POV.
Then I strongly suggest that people leave these platforms or stop posting on them.
Yes he does. Terms of service are changing too.
My daughter has repeatedly report to Facebook misogynistic, porn, and a fecal fetish posts and been told the posts didn't violate terms. But our logo was banned:
IG sent me a notice that my friends couldn’t see me anymore. And constantly took down my posts from very legitimate sites that spread information, not misinformation, regarding the things that were happening during the months leading up to the election. I closed my account. I had 556 followers
Mosseri has said publicly that they don't throttle links on Threads. But IDK man, I have eyes.
They also said the same thing at Twitter years ago too. I remember Twitter employee’s at events I attended tell me to my face they didn’t do it and when I show them the proof the response was “the content of the tweet needs to be better I guess” It was a link to a charity…
I've read that LinkedIn also deprioritizes posts with external links too.
Okay, okay, well let 'em. Meantime over here on BlueSky we have Blue Skies. We know who is going to come out on top, right? All nice ppl will be on BlueSky and all the haters will be on Twitter. The low information users will stick to Facebook and Threads.
"All nice ppl will be on BlueSky"... I press "X" for doubt. If I learned something from the Rob Reiner and Mark Hamill situation is that the most toxic ppl from Twitter are the ones who migrated to BlueSky after the election.
Doesn't matter, now with mass troll blocking we never see them. So they are shouting into the wind and not reaching the libs they so want to own.
But the point I was making is that those users are not even right wing ppl. As you said right wing ppl are now on Twitter since that is their turf. The ones who mass migrated after the election are left leaning libs, those indiviuals are the ones who pushed Hamill & Reiner out of this platform.🤷
Well I do not know the Hamil & Reiner story so I can't add to your conversation on that.
that is odd, I wonder if this was before the huge troll block lists ?
Based on what I saw he got some backlash due some of the comments he made about the election.
That’s why we’re on 🦋
FB just suspended me for 4 days for the EXACT same (innocuous) pic they suspended me for over 2 YEARS AGO! (I haven’t reposted it! The algorithm evidently just goes backwards in time & re-sniffs). How many times do you have to pay for the same (misperceived) crime? How can Threads be any different?
A big reason why I deactivated my account
TIL
Zuckerberg is just as evil but in a quieter way than the idiot who owns Twitter.
META's TOS might be shit and overprotective. (reason why I refuse to create a threads account) But ex-twtr is just a graveyard now. Like, what's the point anymore...
And it’s annoying af
The social media strategy of a narcissistic abuser.
Here in Canada, FB banned us from posting direct links due to our Bill C-18. #cdnpoli www.cbc.ca/news/politic...
Yup - so we all just post screen caps of news stories, but that’s not super effective! I’m involved in an FB group fighting our local gov and it’s damned irritating not being able to post news links! #FuckZuck
I thought Zuckerberg would cave but that’s who he is. FB is dying much like Twitter. All my friends and family are rarely on FB anymore. I only check in to support my fellow Albertans in the fight against the Trump loving premier we unfortunately have, and to send out “Happy B-day” messages.
I am still using Threads which I can’t quite seem to get off of. There’s a couple of accounts over there I follow that haven’t come over here yet - or I haven’t found them. FB is mostly for checking in with distant friends & family now & then.
I’m still waiting for ppl from Twitter to switch over to Bluesky as well. I wish they’d hurry so I can leave that dark hole. My son just informed me that Bluesky is #2 on the App Store and Twitter is #55, below Dominos Pizza app. Lol.
I haven't noticed that on FB. Then again I don't post there often. Very rarely post links. I will now need to check it out.
Yup Like Big Brother.
Really.. so with them the posts that got links get deprioritized too?
yeap, on a sliding scale
@Judd, correct but wait there's more! This story got blocked so much some people made a group. m.facebook.com/story.php?st...
That’s why they’re billionaires. Society seems to reward the ones with manically extractive tendencies.
Does he also run them for the benefit of russia and the establishment of a mafia state in USA?
They both really suck; the difference is that Zuckerberg doesn’t have any defenders to speak of.
But at least Instagram is a social media that is just pictures, it is a site for sharing photos and videos and that is it
I hope no-one there ever finds out that political/extremist memes are sharable images.
The problem is that if you’re the only one who doesn’t you get screwed. It has to be “best platform wins” or the way it is now. You can’t compete with purely engineering against people with shady business practices.
Zuck ruined Insta. Facebook sucks so bad- too many ads, reels, sponsored pages, more ads, more ads, more sponsored pages, then a few friends’ posts. And the childish censorship 😤 I never signed up for Threads. Been on Bluesky 8 months now, waiting for you all to show up. Yea!! Y’all are here now. 😎
Mosseri has repeatedly said they don't downrank links, but a few days ago admitted they "don't place much value" on clicks Which is dumb unless you don't wanna people sharing links but you also want to be able to say "we don't downrank links"
Endless feeds of nothing I chose. I keep Facebook for distant friends and family. But I hate its format.
if you imply feeds as but bsky... the popular ones, you will scroll endlessly and that is because queries are clear who get visibility. Funny since it is one of the many contradictions.
I can’t use it anymore. I get a notification someone responded to something but it’s on a different app? Or someone I follow just put something on instagram, and I go there but only see cooking reels using ultra processed foods or DiY cleaning mixtures that actually make mustard gas.
Exactly why I deactivated all those accounts. Happy to have this platform.
Trash fires both
LinkedIn does the same thing. It's what Crawford & Joler, borrowing a concept from Marx, call the "triangle of digital labour". The aim is to increase the pull of the social network singularity so that the cost of opting out from these platforms will eventually become too high for content creators.
Bill Gates now
Just another reminder why I steer clear of Facebook, Threads, Instagram, and X. Can’t stand them.
and it all sucks. user experience is terrible in all those places. I tolerate them currently because it is how some of the folks I know prefer to communicate and I don't want to cut them out of my life. but they all suck.
Whataboutism is lazy. Are you lazy?
I quit those before COVID I won't even use WhatsApp
Smart
Don’t trust Zuck any more than Elmo.
What about Bluesky? Is it different? Honest question
Bluesky does not throttle or promote and kind of content, including content with links. There is no penalty for including links in your posts.
Yes. Your feed here is posts by the people you follow, in chronological order; the platform doesn't suppress posts with links.
okay) "as long as the feed is purely chronological", right?
The feed is purely chronological. I'm not sure what you're implying?
nothing :) thank you
And it's all terrible!
Yes, he does and we're about to experience the full effect in January...adverts and blocking and memes, oh my.
I am new on this app. Kindly follow me let’s stay connected.
Zuckler just put me on a 180 day ban on FB.
Wow! I can’t stand Zuckerberg - what a thin-skinned, egotistical, power- hungry, creepy, unlikable, greedy & morally bankrupt guy
I’m curious what you have to do to get banned there.
I ruthlessly troll all of the Retrumplicants. I think I finally pissed off enough of them to get banned. But, of course, they can say whatever they want with no repercussions.
Nothing I've reported has ever been found to violate community standards. I don't think they have any standards.
We know Zuck throttles links? Or we know he throttles political content and hard news?
Zuckerberg is the origin of social media platform hoarding data. If his 3 platforms also throttle links in order to monetize the actual data instead, it would be another layer of sociopathic tendencies by the world's worst introvert.
I mean, it's really obvious on FB when you post a link to a loved ones obituary, and nobody sees it. Then you'll post a picture of them and get 200 likes.
I knew this had to be a thing on Facebook. When I add a link I always comment as well above the link, cause I figured putting my own words would help, but it doesn't. It's almost like no one sees it. But when I upload something straight from my phone, I do get engagement.
FB just removed my Gaetz governor delusions story and has blocked me from following, replying or reacting to posts on instagram.
Insta and Threads does that to me all the damn time. For doing NOTHING but liking and replying with a damn heart! I hate all of those META sites.
And Zuckerberg has been abusing the public for as long as I can remember.
Zuck and Elon are Both evil
Agree
They truly are.
“Zuckerberg runs Instagram (…) the exact same way” Incorrect.
Leaving those shortly too
Be warned🚨 Jack Dorsey started BlueSky. Just sayin.
And we chased him away
Parag Agrawal was the original person who came up with the project, Jack Dorsey was CEO at the time but notoriously distant and months from leaving. He never really was involved here as a poster, and never had any ownership and the lead devs (who now own it) say they have never met him.
When I post videos of QAnon interviews or neo-Nazis from Charlottesville, the algorithm thinks I’m them promoting hate speech
That's a damn fine algorithm.
Wait... do you mean here or X? Not sure if the algorithm here is doing great or the one on X is outing Elon.
On both sides...
It's the child of the algorithm that marked content discussing breast cancer as porn
I have not been on any of these
But he’s quiet about it. We should worry.
Whataboutism is not an argument
By letting people vote how hot they perceive women who didn't give their consent to being voted on?
I wondered why so many pages started putting links in the comments.
Not
I use threads only for personal stuff. Bluesky for everything else.
I literally deleted all three of those apps. We all know musty is vile but we tend to give fuckerberg a slap on the wrist.
Which is why I didn't understand the initial exodus to Threads when Musk took over. It seemed obvious you're just going fromn on rRch AHole's playpen to another Rich AHole's playpen.
Threads was entirely too "nanny-like" for me. It was like my mother was watching & vetting everything.
But Meta does not do anything about sexual content or spam posts, but pick on someone who were stating their opinion.
I got a suspension each for 1. Selling eggs to my neighbors. And 2. For offering to sew facemasks for free to anyone that needed some at the beginning of the pandemic. FB is terrible. People can re-home (sell) kids on there.
And yet I had to give up FB because my content on autocracies was consistently marked as extremist - was never able to promote my book there either.
American oligarchs securing their place in the autocracy they're trying to establish.
They are all just disasters.
But billionaires are model citizens we should all aspire to be right? #MythofSuccess
Please put together a starter pack of contributors in your field
Extremist? Oh man FB is the worst
What’s horrific is that the Academy thought it was too, so an entire class of military officers won’t understand how to deal with fascists.
Social media and AI are limiting speech about politics. Even many image generators do this. Respect for the oligarchy is being programmed into all of these systems.
Your book should be required reading in every high school. 💯
Wow. Talk about censorship. No free speech for you.
It's a private business with terms of service. 1A refers to governmental affairs. If FB allowed it, except in rare and particular instances, the government would not be allowed to restrict the expression of free speech.
I have a yellow light by my facebook profile indicating that my posts are pushed way down in people's feeds because I was posting factual information about POSUTUS45/47 very frequently before the election. They basically accused me of incitement for posting links to factual informatiob.
I have a FB account, but rarely use it. Just tired of Zuck and the constant feeling that I’m at a high school reunion.
Truly it is high school 24/7
Boycott all Meta products. Zuckerberg is evil.
I have a suspense fiction series about a college newsroom in downtown Portland during the protests & pandemic, and FB refuses to let me advertise it. Fiction! I run ads for other books, but not that those. Given all the garbage ads that fill my FB feed, I feel mildly insulted.
Facebook's government relations people are a house of Republicans so... this colours the platform's handling of political material. Ahem.
"Extremist"? Wow. It's the autocracies themselves that are extreme.
You’ve got to remember that billionaire techbros are ALL, by nature, Dark Enlightenment neoreactionary monarchists.
Insane how X and to some extent facebook are the home to MAGA-Qanon conspiracies, yet because they are advocated by MAGA and the mainstream Republicans (they've become the establishment!), those are now "normal" now. Making YOU the extremist for pointing it out.
So nice to read you here! Also, that sucks.
Hate facebook
FB: “What? The post said ‘Nazi’ so we had to mute it!”
Extremist? Ridiculous.
LET US be glad Bluesky is taking off. This techbro nonsense has to stop now. It's leading humanity off a cliff. Support Bluesky 🦋✅️
That’s awful. I’m sorry. I would have loved to know you were there.
Wow, just wow
@ruthbenghiat.bsky.social I’m reading Strongmen and I just want to say I’m absolutely fascinated & terrified in a current state of limbo. Thank you for writing brilliantly.
I noticed that Google does the same if i don’t pay them to promote my work.
And we need your voice now, more than ever. I am afraid America is doomed to become a cruel religious and fascistic totalitarian state.
What???? This is ridiculous. Zuckerberg is no better than Elmo. Only a tad quieter.
That’s a lie.
Whatever happened to freedom of speech?🤷♂️
That has to do with the government, not the practices of a private enterprise.
No shit??? I had no idea. Thanks for explaining that to me!!!! You’re brilliant!!!
I just went ahead and blocked the man's planners. And nothing of value was lost!
Mansplainers
Your bait caught a few on it...
It’s a private forum, not the town square.
Thanks for stating clear obvious facts that I did not know at all!👍🏻🤔💙💚
Project2025 makes sure that after this upcoming January, you can kiss #freeSpeech America 🇺🇸
...Goodbye!
Leave America while or if you can.
Think of the shareholders!
And that ^^ tells one everything one needs to know about Zucky (FB, Insta & Threads) and his political alignment. He is, afterall, a card-carrying member of the Billionaire/Oligarch Class.
At least you can here. Might be the only place
Zuckerberg is as anti-information as Musk. You know this, Ruth, but they can't continue to wrest power from the hands of the citizenry as long as they know they can fight back.
They also kept removing your posts regularly.. @ruthbenghiat.bsky.social
Ruth, newrepublic.com/post/185306/...
Any posts I made on FB quoting DJT (no commentary just direct quote) got relegated to shadow banning or a warning that it was inciteful. If I tagged EIGHT people the post would be pulled for misleading." I always posted links in comments and not the OP. But maga could threaten or post their crap
I am so sorry! You speak the truth and educate all of us. Thank you!
You were probably followed by numerous right wing trolls who reported you. Keep up the good trouble. Here's a historical good trouble moment. By that I mean that people who refused orders came to light. engagement.virginia.edu/learn/though...
Not many people who read books on X, especially Leon
😟
What FB allows and doesn't allow is mindboggling. There was a literal hate page against an acquaintance that libelled them and directed abuse towards them, but FB repeatedly cleared it as not breaching community standards. This went on for years. The purpose of a system is what it does
Tried to list a Youtube series on the Rise of The Third Reich om my personal page. Wrote this is what we might expect. Facebook took it down, and put me in the penalty box until December 10. Can still post, but limited access to options.🏒
Extreme from an extreme is so not a definition of extremism.
That may have had to do with the titles of your books. Even cartoonist protesting fascism were nailed because the algorithms seem to have difficulties distinguishing between pro and con posts and merely responded to the visuals with swastikas.
Just dump these worthless sites and be done. I did it and I'm not a goddamn college graduate for fucksake!
👊
Some of the smartest people I know just have a High School diploma. I advocate trade schools and guilds, similar to the way current day Germany does. Or the pomo Bauhaus model.
Probably the same excuse the US Naval Academy used to retract the invitation for you to educate the Brigade of Mids. What a damn shame. Who is actually cancelling who?
Spot on.
That's awful, Ruth! 😡
Insanity.
At this point, you have my permission to follow me, Ms. Ruth Ben-Ghiat. BlueSky supports writers, artists, and scientists.
Seriously, and you, with outstanding credentials.
Sadly, that's what happens when you have a deliberately over-sensitive algorithm checking for sensitive content. And don't pay the manual checkers enough for them to care.
unfortunately auto checkers have to be over sensitive. every algorithm is prone to errors, it's best to mistakenly label something as sensitive than to let the real ones pass. but they need a lot more manual checkers.
That last part is the key, though. Over-sensitive auto-checkers with no manual oversite is worth less than nothing in terms of actually improving user experience.
It’s also the question we’re auto-checkers are looking for. Is it (sexual) misconduct and fascism, or a tiny little leftish sound?
I agree.
imo this is a problem with no perfect solution - automatic moderation enforces bias and is easily manipulated, while manual moderation requires that people are paid to look unblinkingly at the illegal or violent content that they're protecting us from. it's a vital but unfortunately traumatizing job
This reminds of a story I read about child porn investigators suffering from PTSD because of what they had seen.
#MultiplePersonallyDisorder
An algorithm so well-programmed that it’s as good or better than humans at understanding context of content? It would have to be so complex with many changing laws, norms, and values and constantly be updated by culturally aware humans writing all that code. Sounds impossible.
In theory AI may be able to do it. But even AI is prone to follow the code the developers wrote.
yep, and that's what I mean by no perfect solution
they tried this on facebook ages ago it was a wonderful few months and then the right wingers sued because actual fact checking looked like a liberal bias when in fact it was just all the right wing posts were bullshit
Mushroom fungi brain synapses expand beyond this statement 😎🤓
No they don’t. I built AI-driven anti money laundering algorithms. You absolutely can accept a certain amount of actionable transactions getting through the auto-flagger if you’re also doing randomized spot checks and retraining as patterns shift. And have a coherent human escalation path.
a fellow data scientist? :) probability threshold for classification depends on use case. you better block a sensitive video to not traumatize users than set a high threshold to avoid false positives
Nice to meet another out here. In the sensitive video scenario, it’s about using the filtering steps short of outright blocking. A fully featured service has warning labels and obscuring click-through screens to apply to the broader thresholds. You want pizza parlor clean, not operating room.
ypu want THIS CONTENT-FAKERS TO STOP, like deport YOU to chRussia or China "internet". No, it is not OK to constantly try to create turnarounds to gain advantage from peoples nature breach. Either in law § or in fun/news perception
It's human-made, and therefore not unfortunate, rather imperfect. And it is not best anything - practice, bet, 𝘦𝘵𝘤.
Unsure about that - my FB feed is now just AI images, far right/far left memes, with a healthy dosage of unvarnished hatred of jewish people.
AI images are not against FB's ToS afaik and far right/left memes not necessarily (although they often are). also automatically checking content is a cat and mouse game, that's why it's so important to have sufficient manual curation
you missed the more important point- there are no normal human content creators, opinions Just mostly auto-shjtposters
I heard virtually no political content on FB this cycle. They are most certainly pushing all information out the door. I am very afraid but also determined to seek out information while it is still available.
Ruth. All of my QAnon videos were taken off of YouTube that had been there for years after January 6 and I was given strikes. I still am worried about posting the videos of Blood tribe and GDL because they remove them. Now Elon will be using them to teach AI
That is the very reason I left Twitter. When the new Terms dictate that ALL content is now basically owned by Musk to train his AI regardless of copyrights, etc., he became the thief of epic proportions I always knew him to be.
It’s almost as if Dustin Carmack was installed for exactly this purpose
I never understood how many journalists went over there and stuck--not just for the censorship of politics, but why a journalist would go from dangerous to overtly bad platform in terms of privacy I don't know.
Their bosses monitor their tweets.
"I get record response and engagement for just posting pictures of tweets."
Money.
Weren't there tons of Bush II people on FB's legal team? It's always about protecting the GOP brand.
Joel Kaplan was never a good guy.
And what do you know. For all his trouble, Zuckerberg is on Trump’s enemies list ANYWAY. People never learn. You cannot satisfy the right wing, and especially not Trump. It is NEVER enough. Never.
I'm realizing that trump's "enemies" can very quickly become ok to him. It's a slippery slope - bezos for example. Bib billionaire stands up against trump, trump mad, threatens and then bf you know it - bezos caves. Useful is really the right word. Are they useful to trump
I mean you can if you give them $$$$
He throws everybody under the bus. Elum and Drumph 🍿
And Zuck said that Threads wasn't intended to be a political or journalism site, so whatever he meant by that, it's likely that it wouldn't be a useful site for journalists, especially political ones.
I guess a choice of relevance over substance or relevancy over democracy…take your pick. These people have become the ailment of society: the “me-go”. I should trademark that! Btw I used to follow you on Twitter and so happy you’re here so I can again.
This is disturbing on numerous levels. Ugh I’m so tired. An important author and intellect posting on the subject of autocracy is flagged for promoting it? And those really promoting autocracy and disinfo flourished in the same place b/c the algorithm prioritizes engagement and fear baiting.
Meanwhile, I reported post of a lecture by David Irving and was told it did not violate FB community standards. 😡
Heard that happened to thehandbasket too.
It's the first rule of autocratic to stifle anyone trying g to hold them to account.
The worrying thing is that these "standards" are put in place by employees (people like us) which have seemingly poor ethical and moral values and consistently get it wrong.
You must be absolutely horrified by what’s happening in this country. I know I am.
Wait, YOUR book was marked as extremist? Huh.
True, but Zuckerberg did not just get appointed to the government, so weighing them produces different results. Everyone has to decide what to support, while attempting to still exist in a world controlled by algorithms. There is no perfect answer, and it is a choose your own adventure situation.
"Lazy linking", wtf … that's how the internet is supposed to work.
If there were an opposing DOGE, it might be worth 12 hrs/day for free.
Perfect fix for that: Quit dedicating anything to X. Focus instead on Bluesky.
What the hell is “lazy linking?”
A guess: posts which consist of little more than a link
You’re probably right. The thing is, they could easily throttle just those if that were the intent. He wants more posts and for users to stay on his platform.
Agreed.
It speaks to his ambition that it should be "the everything app." He imagines a scenario where everyone just spends all of their time on Twitter and never follows any link to any other site. Just endlessly doomscrolling, forever.
and banking
🤢
Presumably he thinks you should be adding value to his platform instead of purely using it as a vehicle to drive eyeballs elsewhere.
His way of telling you you should use his platform as a publisher instead of your own, and you can only do that if you also pay him. :D He's a silly, silly man...
jibberish
And in any case, the fuck is it to him if we're feeling lazy or not while we post?? "Sit up straight and apply yourself when you post on my forum!" "yes sir!" fukkk him
I interpret the “lazy link” comment to those who just retweet something which has a link in it. I’m thinking along the lines of SEO and users just doing retweets w the links to boost.
Posting a link and nothing else
just asking a question without reflecting on it all first, for example
Concerning
I thought the same.
It's a phrase used to indicate that you don't understand how the internet was designed to work on a deeply fundamental level.
"stuff I don't like or own"
Using a source in your original post. He prefers that people not leave the Nazi bar.
Quote tweeting with one's only contribution being "Interesting" "Concerning" or "True" ¬_¬
Troubling... Looking into it.
Elon was reluctant to state that he dislikes evidence?
bsky.app/profile/wend...
Elon code for "linking to my competitors"
And / or linking to accurate information (=not propaganda)
That too.
Not even competitors! He’s penalizing creators and publishers - the people who make content for his platform. He wants all creators working for him for free. Screw that.
It certainly explains why my blog and YouTube videos never got any views from Twitter. Not that I had a lot of views from other sources to begin with, but 1 out of 2000 followers was really, really sus.
1 out of 2000 is good. Our account got broke when he took over. Completely throttled. Good reach would be 50, avg 24. Stripped of followers daily and now only sus accounts see us, we guess.
Well, I mean, it was one view in total if I added a link. Out of 2000 followers. :D
Got it
I suspected this for a long time so we started doing the link reply trick on Twitter a while back, even with that, though, engagement sucks. We get much better results here.
He thinks of the creators on his platform as competitors. That's just the way he thinks. One reason I'm glad to have nothing more to do with that place. It's *much* better here.
Well they are competitors to him, competitors to his ego. God forbid he maybe wrong about something or people be allowed alternative views.
2018 speech Trump gave was at at a Veterans Association, and he told them, from the article, "criticised the media for its reaction to his trade tariffs policy, accusing it of broadcasting "fake news" and saying that people should not believe what they see or what they read."
He views those people as his competitiors. He didn't seem to understand why people like Taylor Swift didn't want to upload to his platform. She wants the ad revenue from those plays, Musk! She's not going to just give them to you.
No He wants you to pay him a monthly fee to work for him
A renaissance of personal websites would be welcomed, but I worry the toolsets have gotten too unwieldy
Yes. Rather than linking to TY he wants us to upload video to Twitter & serve it there. Noticed link previews to YouTube & other sites broke a while back & we have to manually put in the title etc. now -- example of #enshittification, reduced product utility after users have been captured. ☹️
I used to use Twitter for just that purpose... posting links to articles on my own feed so I could read them later when I had more time... In Canada, on Facebook, users are not allowed to post links to news articles. This is weird though... Elon Musk telling X users (that will listen) "how" to post?
"Lazy Linking" = how social media has worked since the days of LiveJournal, aka "linking."
Cancel Elonia
He’s an idiot in public. He must know that, right?
You can’t “find out what’s going on” on a propaganda site anyway.
Facebook does that too-the links that they even let us post.
Get off the site. Easy.
👍🏿👍🏻👍🏼👍🏾👍👍🏽
Yet again, the promise of sharing knowledge on the open web is chained by authoritarians and greed.
Could you please put the text in the ALT descriptor. Thank you. 🙏
No one cares about Musk or X.
Yet another step in the way to Xs final demise. What kind of engagement will be left when all academics-the serious experts and the funny thoughtfuls-have moved to Bsky? Even the radical right commentators miss our meaningful engagement.
Elon advising algorithm avoidance techniques. Nice. Give it a month before he changes his mind and "posts that have a top level comment by the author that contains a link are downranked".
What's 'X'?
We should encourage Paul Graham to move over here.
I meant musk and others
Trump will be forced out by Trump and the others
I meant musk and others ha ha I must have trump on my brain
>Wants people to upload directly to Twitter >Compresses the shit out of it If Twitter's supposed to be the primary source it should be at original quality, otherwise the obvious use is to link to where the good stuff is. Two goals are fighting here
#elonmuskgofuckyourself
It would be cool if you used alt text. When adding an image, click the "+ALT" then write a description of the image. You can set up a reminder: Go to your profile settings, click "Accessibility" under Basics, make sure "Require alt text before posting" is toggled on.
Stops lazy linking? Wut?
Anything to keep you from clicking away from the site.
Further verifying why I’m glad I bugged out from Twitter
The site is basically nonfunctional now and lost 4/5 of its value since his takeover. Incredible he hasn't been ousted somehow but I guess the rightwing echo chamber has deemed it necessary to keep the trash afloat for now
At this point, who? I left The Bad Place for good
"Lazy linking" aka, simple, user friendly, convenient.
Who says he’s the richest person in the world? Are these same people that calculated Trump is a billionaire? Or the people who said Madoff was legit?a
I wouldn't be surprised if he really is that rich, but it clearly doesn't buy class or sense.
Big hat No cattle
WOW Damn...
His wealth is all paper. He had to sell Tesla stock for the Twitter purchase and he STILL saddled the company with $13B in debt.
It’s easy to become rich as fuck when your businesses are all funded by the government.
it's mainly based on stock prices and stuff so it could easily change, it's not like he has a bank account with a trillion dollars just sitting there
Yep. That’s why the guy “worth” $300 billion could only front like 10% of a $44 billion investment, and needed foreign investors for the rest.
yeah, it's like based on the market cap tesla, his shares times current price = big number. but it's not really an accurate representation because if you started selling huge number of shares the price would tank.
Also Tesla is already obscenely overvalued. I mean by what conceivable logic is it worth $250 billion more than Toyota, Ferrari, GM, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, Ford, BMW, Volkswagen, Honda, Hyundai, Suzuki, Renault, Subaru, Rivian, Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki and Polestar COMBINED?!
(I listed Suzuki twice, oops)
Its essentially been collectively bid up by high finance, just waiting some historic event to trigger the sell off. Tech stock is typically over valued but tesla is just a car manufacturer. Tech usually has lockin but cars only brand loyalty, really
All rich people think they are entitled to everything for free, especially other people's work. Paying for stuff is something only we normal human beings are expected to do
Well, this looks like a fun and lucrative time for IP lawyers
Throttle = Free Speech - be like- I Am Your Retribution = Campaign Promise No suffer those two are so aligned.
And train his AI, which says he’s the biggest source of disinformation on X!
“Lazy linking”
bsky.app/profile/ajst...
Pushing labor onto the users has always been the tech company paradigm
That's why you don't play with him.
Sometimes the only winning move is not to play
Great movie reference to use 😁
Elon who?
Discouraging links means discouraging proof of whatever crazy assertion you want to make. Right wing idiocy thrives.
He’s not my cup of tea
Why do all of the world’s most evil people have daddy issues?
It's the universal origin story.
No.1 Supervillain
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Also telling that he doesn’t seem to care about promoting a business run by a fascist
His posts on Twitter during Covid were disgusting.
Yes this is about money first, but an added bonus for a committed fascist like Musk is that he doesn't want people being well-informed.
He throttled. Porn bot swarms. Shadow block accounts and beware of malware attacks also. Leave x delete all data because he is using for AI. X is a breeding ground for foreign hackers and and Russia propaganda.
I'm thinking the dipshit is going to flame out in the next year. I don't think he is operating in reality, and he's not looking very healthy.
From your lips to God's ears (says me, the agnostic atheist, but you get the point :-)
He tried to pick up Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field, but he didn't know how to properly wield it and it instead turned itself on his own mind. Instead of distorting reality, it warped him.
If he’d had the pressure of government regulators finally catching up to him next year, I’d agree. But I reckon he’s gotten a second wind now with that risk taken off.
Manifesting with you :)
He has nothing to constrain him, and he's convinced he knows *everything*. We don't have to do anything but watch.
I Agree. He will eventually implode with all his greed and hate for those who disagree with him.
I think most of what he gets credit for someone else in his organization developed it
Would be great if he just OD’d on Ketamine…..
He has reality to constrain him.
I dunno man that video of Trump the other day looked like a fucking k-hole to me. I’m worried he’s gonna keep Trump high so he can run everything. (Yes, Elmo scares me more than Trump and that’s saying a LOT)
Which video, do you have a link?
It's scary af regardless. They're both high all the time, and they're going to start hating each other. My mother always said, "Age and treachery will always beat youth and vigor" We shall see.
good. drugs will cut your life short!!
Ketamine is wildly different from adderall though.
@ourshallowstate.bsky.social just posted a nice description of the effects of ketamine and it’s spot on.
Take both (technically esketamine); can confirm.
Drug users codependency of a single drug keeps them together during usage. I am fairly sure different drugs between 2 users will get in the way sooner than later.
The issue is that both Trump and Musk are narcissists, and their personalities are bound to clash. Trump isn’t even in office, yet Musk is already stealing the spotlight by undermining him - for example, through actions like addressing tariffs (Argentinia) and engaging with Iranian ambassadors.
I’m starting to feel the same way.
The more I learn about Gabbard and Hegseth etc. the more convinced I am that this is meticulously planned and tightly controlled in collab w Putin. Trump is not speaking, just tweeting and even some tweets don't sound like him. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...
Yes Putin has been planning and meticulously orchestrating this for well over a decade. He said it himself - he would destroy America without firing a single bullet. He will have Alaska by the end of 2025.
Yup. And I'm making it my life's work to remind people that this happened, 2018. I've never forgotten. Little publicity. Not one Democrat. We have to see what's happening. This was a long game with a big team. www.google.com/amp/s/www.ms...
I too am manifesting that reality that consists of our ideals and principles and relies on evidence, logic, reasoning, critical thinking, fairness, lifting each other up, minimun standard of living for all, & more which preclude their control, corruption, hoarding, and exploitation, and destruction.
Spontaneous combustion 🤞
He's a drug addict with very bad health habits. Like any drug addict, reality has passed him by a long time ago.
He’s what we would categorize as delulu.
Two months later..
Did he ever look healthy? He downloaded his brain to the cloud hoping he'll live forever lol
The problem is that he build a cult surrounding his persona, i actually cut things off with friend because he became insufferable in the past years, he loves everything Musk says and does. He became so right wing and even started repeating his pro-russia BS, some people are so susceptible.
Heres hoping he chokes on the next ketamine fix
Ya he's barrel chested as fuck, probably a sign of COPD or some other legit bad condition.
Can definitely see him being found in the bath/pool/elevator shaft. It's happened to far better people.
Should we contact Elon’s friends to stage an intervention? Maybe Trump can take the lead.
Is there anything in the history of this country that you can point to where this scenario played out? I speak from ignorance, so I am truly hoping there is one because it would give me endless joy to watch this cretin flame out. His smarmy tone and cringe takes are like sandpaper to my brain.
There have been numerous well-known and well-heeled people who destroyed themselves with chemicals. Power, money, and access to anything they want tends to rot people. Once they become addicted to a substance, it can get really ugly.
Even My Pillow Guy will make out OK though, you know? Looked kind of sketchy for a while, but he's gonna be just fine with that "Office of Election Integrity" appointment.
Yeah, he might be ok for a while. Ultimately, he will probably regret being involved. All these guys are flying high, and they aren't even in office. We will see how much fun they're having in 4 years. If we're all still here.
I'd put good money on Elon splitting with Trump before Jan 20th. But I think it's going to be a long time before he falls anywhere down the "richest" list unless the split is really bad and Leon loses his SpaceX & carbon credit welfare pipelines.
Oh, I'm not expecting Musk to lose his fortune any time soon. But I could easily see him having serious health issues and getting sidelined. He's been getting a lot of media attention, & Trump likes to be the center. Case in point- today's CA & MEX tariff tweet. It's going to be the stupidest Circus
Yeah - getting into a trade war with our two biggest trading partners. What could possibly go wrong? Vehicle parts, wood products, petroleum products, industrial machinery and parts - it's going to affect EVERYTHING. 42% of our timber comes from Canada. Remember plywood costs during COVID? Idiots!
And we don't even know whether it will happen. He lies about everything. One thing is true, though. We're all talking about it, which is exactly what he wanted.
GODDAMMIT
These kinds of rich, frustrated, power-hungry abusers of power are a direct state danger to societies. Politically, constitutions must be adjusted in such a way that this kind of proliferation has no access to politics.
This world desperately needs a cooperatively-owned social media platform.
impractical for scientific publications.
Does not messing with links make BlueSky more attractive to other media outlets? If so, does that invent them to promote BlueSky?
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Musk's not violating copyright of his users do it for him.
Honestly, left cause i was tired of hearing about Elon, right wing trolls, Twitter, etc etc. I don’t need screenshots of these happenings pasted over here and then showing up on my timeline. Just leave it alone and let it shrivel and die.
Not only monetize but to train his Gimpy AI.
Please bring more of your content off X and to BlueSky @on3.com
Good thing that I never post on X.
I have decided to abandon the X ship today. As an author, I need links to be visible. Fuck no, I won't use Twitter as my publishing platform. Spoiled little brat he is.
Yes, perhaps Elonia has aspirations to someday be the next Dictator of the United States! Personality fits that of authoritarian/fascist ruler!
Another whacka doodle! 😱
Is 'lazy linking' something he just made up? My biggest gripe about social media is memes making assertions without links to sources. Far from being lazy, providing a link is that extra mile that transforms a dubious assertion into factual information. I've never seen a 'lazy link'.
CC @andyblarsen.bsky.social since you were doing your own experiments on this stuff.
Liberal posts with a link, or conservatives too??? I wanna know if he’s monetizing both or mot?!
Thats how they became rich cheats! It’s immoral, un-American and its why they don’t have any friends! Lol
He can go f*ck himself for free. I’m not giving him or anything he’s affiliated with a dime.
Pulling that shit on the unsuspecting is why he's rich. And an asshole.
Not the point but I genuinely loathe these Musk dick-riding accounts so much
As an x Tesla employee. I concur.
What a self-entitled, avaricious, whiny oyster!
Apropos "Musk is the richest person in the world and his view is everyone should work for him for free":
So the first buddy is going to take a wrecking ball to america and line his richest pockets? I don't THINK SO
He thinks he’s today’s Nikola Tesla, but he’s really today’s Edison.
wtf is “lazy linking”? what does that even mean? is that a thing?
I noticed that during and around the election. The links were very very slow to load if at all, he wants you to give up and not read them. No such problem over in the blue skies ….
How bout: Nope
With all the taxes he doesn't pay, he and the other billionaires (who shouldn't exist) do exactly just that!
It's probably impossible to find a billionaire who doesn't think he's entitled to free work
Or maybe instead deactivate your account and delete the app from your phone because so many of us no longer care about that hellscape
Exactly this☝🏼 Fk that guy
X is a disaster No one should use it He cheated us for years
Delete your X account now.
everything you post on x is also funneled into their machine learning algorithms so double reason to never use that hell app again
‘Lazy linking’ the guy is deranged
What the heck is "lazy linking"? If anything, finding and adding citations is extra effort.
I thought this was known for over a year now? I mean I'm glad more people are seeing it now, at least.
Guess we're about to since our dumb asses don't know how to vote.
get off X and IG and Threads etc but I happy i dont depend on them to pay my bills. Hope yall can be successful here on Blue Sky. Hope people support small businesses posted here.
Elon has mastered the art is getting people to pay to be "beta test" guinea pigs for his products, some of which are actually dangerous…
Google isn't much better, but at least they (usually) don't charge to beta test their stuff (stuff being their entire digital product suite)
...and let's not forget that beta testing tesla software puts people at risk who DID NOT SIGN UP TO BE BETA TESTERS.
This right here. And Elmo sees all of us Americans as the guinea pigs for his stupid DOGE experiment.
Monkeys died with chips drilled into their brains in his neuralink testing. He's a monster.
Gah, I forgot about that. He's such an all-around terrible person that I forget some of terrible things he's done.
great to follow you here too hoping you can follow back when you have a chance (can't hurt to ask, right?) @larrymark212.bsky.social
It's up to all of us to stop using his products. I don't go in X anymore. I am an x-ghost
Avarice on steroids!
Meta also throttles links or makes you pay to have them actual work (insta)
Trump is the same kind of exploitive and entitled jackass.
X marks the intersection of ego & greed.
Hello Judd, do you have any objection to me screencapping this post to put in twitter? I see you are kind of inactive there & didnt post this there.
He has made the site not a social media site but an offshoot to Dumpty's site. Apparently he never developed any coping or people skills. He uses his wealth to buy people but those he chooses are up to no good.
I couldn't care less. X is over, gone down the drain. Those who stay with X shouldn't protest, they should leave.
This is one of the things net neutrality directly protected us from. 😮💨
Elon is such a loser, we need to eat his bones.
It feels like America got her first Caesar, but instead of Augusts, they went straight to Nero.
I demand to be paid. I have a family to feed!!!
He also wants to hire the best and brightest to work 80+ hours/week for no pay on his stupid DOGE committee or whatever tf it’s called. Take in all the money he can and pay out as little as possible for all those doing the work.
If slave labor was legal he would be the first at the auction house. His morals are in the earths core.
That’s pretty much what he comes from, isn’t it? His family's wealth was built on emerald mines that were worked by Black laborers under apartheid in South Africa who were paid sub poverty wages for dangerous work. He denies it but his father says it’s true and that his kids all know it.
His maternal grandfather moved to South Africa so he could more easily oppress people. archive.ph/zVZab
That explains a lot.
That's how you get grifters & yes men not workers w/talent
"Lazy Linking" . . . He means sharing content. He doesn't want you to share content
Not just greedy.. it's just shitty design from a user experience standpoint.
Elon needs a trip out behind the barn for a life lesson. Let's hope the Oligarch wars start in the U.S. and Elon is the first casualty but I suspect Trump will be first. These boys are not going to tolerate the dysfunction, stupidity, chaos that Trump thrives on.
I think Trump himself is already the first casualty. And where's Vance? Sent running around Congress trying to shore up Gaetz, a fool's errand but a fabulous distraction that gave Gaetz a get out of jail free card.
Yeah I feel like the one thing a lot of the rich guys might hate more than losing money is not knowing whether they are going to lose money. Volatility is the enemy. And that administration will be quite volatile.
Then why'd they vote for him? They'd have paid more taxes under Harris But in 3 months they'd have figured out how to pass the cost to consumers & make even more $$ If they hate volatility Why invest in stocks? Why rape women when hoes will fuck for free? I think they're addicted to risk taking
By "hoes" you don't mean actual sex workers, right?
I meant Men don't have to rape women. I respect sex workers I respect women Do what ya like! I'm an absolute slut I just like losers & hate money😂 There are women who fuck for the clout Hoping to be seen Rape is a ridiculous risk Ruins lives It's about power Cause sex is easy to get
W/ Trump they won’t have to worry about how they’d pass costs on to consumers. Tax cuts will save money and tariffs will give them an excuse to raise prices. Double win. Rich people will invest in volatile stocks, but normally as a smaller part of their portfolio. Not touching the hoes comment.
Your comments proves tax cuts for the rich doesn't spur innovation or get reinvested into the economy to make it thrive as we are told It's an easy way for them to get richer or maintain while we swirl the bowl It makes them selfish, lazy & unimaginative Asshole oligarchs- The lot of them!
That can only work so long No matter how much they raise prices If people are let go in mass firings, & underpaid there's no one to make, sell or buy their products cause they're broke Or dead from lack of healthcare, 2A nuts, pseudo science remedies & pre 1950s viruses What's the end game?
That is the problem, the Christo Fascist think God will fix it, the oligarchs don't have a plan, they want to blow it up and see what falls out.
That's EXACTLY 💯 it They give zero fucks at all Spoiled little boys
The end game: 1. make everyone homeless 2. make homelessness a crime 3. throw everyone in prison 4. endless labor for pennies a day
Slavery again I said on Twitter The goal was to legalize slavery- Already legal in prisons They'll make all wards of the state have prisoner status: Foster kids Mentally ill Prisoners Those awaiting deportation They've weakened child labor laws Let teens marry adults Force births Cut school $
This country is more reliant on slavery today than at any time in our history.
That may be hyperbolic Because the 1700s were a fucking mess But it's ramping up If they change all state wards to prisoners? If that includes those who use Medicaid or SNAP benefits? Slavery will be great again For MAGAts
The hoes comment is the most crucial to answer Rich men who rape when wonen fuck for free? THE most illogical human behavior ever ir proves my point Hoes want proximity to power. They run up their own debt to look appealing & require very little but clout Rape is needless risk taking they ENJOY
Link only tweets are also bad from an AI training perspective... So I think this an extra case why Leon wants to force everyone to add extra text.
Skum
He is just another grifter.
Any post that he engages with makes the creator rich as well. No one man should have all that POWER!
The correct response is that all content posted on X should be links. If everybody is throttled, the only throttled posts will be those from domains he hates... lolol
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I deleted my account and moved on
Sounds about right
Just leave X and Meta and make fun of everyone who still uses them. That’s my strategy
F leon musk
Yep. And that just makes me think wait until they round up all the immigrants and put them in for profit detention "camps" and put them all to work - for free. Not hyperbole.
For me, it’s the fact that Twitter for iOS doesn’t allow me to open links directly in your default browser. I’m forced to first deal with their shitty in-app browser which fails to show controls or let me switch to default browser half the time
meanwhile Twitter's Value is down 80% and tesla and spacex stocks are in freefall. some "Genius"
This is why journos and legacy news outlets are finally leaving that platform. Got nothing to do with ethics (if it did, they'd have left 2+ years ago). It's all about who can monetize the platform most effectively, and the papers realized it wasn't them.
Elonia is the most dangerous immigrant in America
That's precisely why people should leave. Why do smart folks continue to enslave themselves to Elon's moneymaking scam? He sucks off other people's ideas. He sucks off taxpayer dollars. He's pushing Trump to decimate the government so he won't be regulated. All for $$$s I won't do his dirty work.
He’s the richest now, but he needed other investors $$ when he accidentally bought Twitter. They want their money back but the value of X has fallen dramatically. Musk isn’t paying these investors back out of his own pocket.
Money is not enough. Now it is all about power.
Typical greedhead oligarch.
That’s why he’s the richest man on earth
That explains why posting with proof found within the link fails to get engagement. Definitely squelches speech.
Dude’s way too involved with moderation of the shit on his site — he should be “experiencing some things” under Section 230 (of Telecomm Act) — but it won’t.
Now do LinkedIn
So just like every other rich owner/CEO believes? Shocker!
Elon misled people into believing he stood for something other than himself. When he starts turning a dial left or right and puts his thumb on throttling links. It goes beyond an echo chamber.
Well he is having to do this because of the steep drop in ad revenue for Twitter (because of his own actions and the content he now props up there). Hopefully this convinces more people to leave. Substackers who have been complaining about linking issues, now is your moment!
Lon, how about we just skip your site? Yeah, that's the ticket. Blueskys ahead. Spoutible, of course. Substack- 100%
Has the platform previously name Twitter ever made a profit?
How you think people become rich lol
No
Elon doesn’t just want to be President, he wants to be a king, and rule the world. Elon found a country where ENOUGH people are racists and bigots, he wooed them, got them to give him TAXPAYER money for SpaceX, which he will use for his and his fascist friends’ benefits. #resist
The internet detests links, the very essence of what TBL had in mind
If only Elon had a penis....then he wouldn't have to be such a douche.
I still think Dogedesigner is Elons account
I mean do you still have an account there?
So much for free speech.
I was shocked to see all the followed accounts I was flooded with here that had been either throttled or blocked from seeing over there. It had nothing to do with links.
Under capitalism, wealth is acquired through exploitation, not labor
All my Twitter accounts got deleted, I blocked all twitter URLs, so there, Elonia, I hope that helps you monetize on me. I was done with the platform when he bought it, the recent events just pushed me towards the final decision.
Dickweed!
Seems purposely inefficient
bsky.app/profile/adam...
"Lazy linking" is Elon-speak for having proof I guess. He doesn't want people to learn to look for verified information.
Actually Elon is pushing you to post the data itself, audio, video etc, right on Twitter. Obviously to train his AI.
This!!!
But THIS place is the echo chamber
Does Elon admit that he’s not allowing people to deactivate their accounts on Twitter? I have been trying and trying and now I see I’m not the only one that gets an error message and can’t deactivate their account. It’s pissing me the hell off! I want off that platform NOW. #FX
You are under no obligation to post there or read the posts of others. Just stop going there. The effect will be the same.
So glad I left the X cesspool.
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that's sick
And then he’ll feed it to his god awful Grok to spit out dumb ass AI content. People really just need to get off that app
Exactly, the user harvest is multifaceted there, he’s a vampire (and not in the cool noir way lol, no disrespect to vampires)
He’s more like a leach or a mosquito lol a tick
It's addiction and the Uber wealthy are riddled with the disease.
3 most dangerous men in the US of Forced Birth, Death, & Surveillance Capitalism: the myopic regressive bigot SCOTUS John Roberts; Cheeto Mussolini; & the apartheid loving non-Union tax avoidant antisemetic toxic masculine man child Elon & his 44 billion dollar 💵 amygdala driven hate machine algori
Bilionários querem ver a gente tomando no rabo, agradecendo, e pedindo desculpas por estarmos de costas.
so sorry, i can’t upload anything… i deleted my x account
He also claims ownership of anything uploaded to Twitter as well as any accounts on the site, so you can rest assured that your free labor and cultivated presence also serve to train Grok.
Oh, HELL NO! Not all of the serfs are that stupid. The ones who WON'T be doing that are leaving the dead Blue Budgie site faster than the speed of light.
And also it means he can feed your content into his ai slop bot.
File in #Elonsucksbecause, although that case may be overflowing🙁
Eat the rich
For this reason: bluesky. It doesn't worth the debate, owners do whatever they want with their platforms.
Elon Musk is a junkie but instead of smack he’s addicted to wealth at the detriment of society. All billionaires are junkies but he is the worst.
I mean he’s also a junkie in the literal sense too. It was confirmed that he abuses Ketamine to “deal with depression” Not only is he a fascist billionaire with quite the power to his name but he’s all of that and his brain cells and gray matter is actively dying
And every news outlet works this way. Don’t overstress it is just modern platform economics
Why is anyone still there?
Muskie maybe the richest man on earth but he’s in the toilet pile of 99.9% of the people of the world.
Wow don't share facts and news where we can't make money off it.
Apartheid emerald mine owner's son wanting slavery
Elon Musk is a big, blubbering vagina. Bluesky is so much better than his shitty-ass bulletin board of an app.
Yo. Vaginas everywhere take offense to this lame lazy outdated patriarchal correlation. Think harder
This is kinda BS. You cannot add a link in a post on Twitter or else they make sure hardly anyone sees it. FORCING you to upload the data to Twitter, so, obviously, they can train their AI on it. SO HAPPY BlueSky is soaring, we all left Twitter in the dust, some longer than others.