"Blood an soil" is about claiming legitimacy over a territory because you killed the previous inhabitant and took their place. This isn't what I am supporting, at all.
"Blood an soil" is about claiming legitimacy over a territory because you killed the previous inhabitant and took their place. This isn't what I am supporting, at all.
that is not what "blood and soil" means. it refers to the idea that you are ethnically entitled to political territory because of something inherent to your ethnicity. i.e. the state of Israel. your definition of "we killed the people who live here so it's ours now" also describes Israeli settlers.
"Being born there" is not inherent to an ethnicity, so still no anyway.
So, why did you bring up the point in the first place?
Maybe scroll up and read the conversation again and you'll know why I brought up that point.
you brought it up to explain that the idf were "allowed" to kidnap Palestinian children because idf soldiers were "born there", hence cells pointing out that you were describing a blood and soil mentality. it's embarrassing enough that you're some kind of weird dalek-fucker, don't play dumb too.
"you brought it up to explain that the idf were "allowed" to kidnap Palestinian children" At no point have I ever argued as such, this is horrendous. Please read better and stop arguing against someone that isn't me.
i would have denied the dalek-fucking accusation, but noted.
Netiv HaAsara was founded in 1982
I don't remember defending colonies to begin with, so I am not sure what point you are trying to make, there.
So was Holit. 1982
Again, your point?
These were targets for the 7 October attacks. Another target, before Hamas noticed the music festival and turned back to attack that, was the city of Netivot. It became a city in 2000. Over half of the population are immigrants who arrived in the past 20 years en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netivot
"before Hamas noticed the music festival" Please, do not try to handwave that. And none of this change that kidnapping Civilians is a war crime. Please do not try to defend Hamas's actions, they were forcing their authorithy and being suported by Bibi.
That’s a particular interpretation that willfully misconstrues the sentiments of nationalism and specifically a nationalist identity tied to a particular plot of land, but it is being deployed to the ends of genocide in this case
Anyway, I am not going for a "blood and soil" argument.
Not explicitly, just implicitly
How so?
Oh well if you want to be obtuse go right ahead and pretend that you’re not making a blood and soil argument
Again, how am I making it?
Look man intentional fallacy, just in a slight variation, even if you didn’t mean to make a blood and soil statement you still made a blood and soil statement. I hope this can be a learning experience for you
"even if you didn’t mean to make a blood and soil statement you still made a blood and soil statement." How is saying "they were born here" is a "blood and soil" statement? Pretty sure that it's the opposite of it.
Do you think that land is their birthright?
I think that someone born on a land should have a right to claim nationality to this land. Are you aware that most white supremacists oppose such notion and think that only people related by blood should have a claim to a nationality?
Standard white supremacist European "liberal" line on the zentity.
You hate to see it
"Look, has Israel made a couple oopsies over the years? Yeah sure. But there's nothing we can do about it now. If we dissolve it, [2nd gen Israelis with dual citizenships, apts in Brooklyn, and time shares in Miami] will basically be genocided.
It's not like any other nation states have had [the existing mechanisms and personnel of gov't removed & replaced] WITHOUT wholesale slaughter of all their inhabitants, ever. No Confederates, Nazis, or Boers made it past the fall of their gov'ts."