Post by Jonathan L. Box / Redsky

"I can always just join up with MAGA and help them run the camps so you better just do as I say": a piece of shit who might as well be over with 'them' anyway

aug 30, 2025, 12:47 am • 4 0 • view

You know how First They Came is about how the vulnerable wouldn’t simply vote with the writer, who wound up fine

aug 29, 2025, 11:19 pm • 4 0 • view

I'm targeted by this government for multiple demographics, and I don't need shit from you. Blow me.

aug 30, 2025, 8:34 am • 4 0 • view

Which is it, numbnuts? Are trans individuals enough of a bloc to sway an election or not? Its just wild how so many liberals seem to have no consistent morality: when called out for shitty behavior, they make themselves the superior victim. bsky.app/profile/john...

aug 29, 2025, 6:28 pm • 15 0 • view

They do have a consistent morality, they just know that being honest about their willingness to sacrifice everyone else for their comfort will get them treated, well, like this.

aug 29, 2025, 6:41 pm • 17 1 • view

I believe he genuinely *thinks* he's an ally here. It's just that he doesn't understand what that means, because he's willing to elevate his own comfort over that of the very people he claims to support.

aug 29, 2025, 6:43 pm • 8 0 • view

You don’t understand that I can be an ally to a number of minority groups. If the eventual nominee doesn’t support one group, but supports the rest, I will not alienate the other groups by not voting. Throwing everyone under the bus doesn’t help anyone.

aug 29, 2025, 7:19 pm • 0 0 • view

I think you need to understand that being an "ally" is about more than just giving lip service. You have to listen, and the reason you're getting dragged here is that you haven't demonstated that you can. So you're an "ally of convenience," which isn't really any sort of ally.

aug 29, 2025, 7:57 pm • 3 0 • view

You’re saying I should give up my vote and abandon all the other causes I support. That’s not being a good ally to anyone.

aug 29, 2025, 8:23 pm • 0 0 • view

Oh, so you're just determined to play the victim, going so far as to make up an argument for me. You'll forgive me if I don't put much stock in what you think an "ally" is.

aug 29, 2025, 8:30 pm • 2 0 • view

I’m determined to support as many people as possible which you can’t seem to comprehend.

aug 29, 2025, 9:08 pm • 0 0 • view

Yes, because you're pretending to be noble while engaging in the myth of "voting as a form of harm reduction." You're really not the Knight in Shining Armor you claim to be. www.indigenousaction.org/wp-content/u...

aug 29, 2025, 9:13 pm • 2 0 • view

"You don't get it, I need you to validate my justifications for sacrificing you. I want to be a shitty person to you but I don't like you pointing out I'm a shitty person"

aug 29, 2025, 8:12 pm • 4 0 • view

So you're willing to sacrifice people. We know. That's why you're a bad person.

aug 29, 2025, 7:21 pm • 4 0 • view

You’re willing to sacrifice ALL people if you don’t get 100% your way. That is pure evil.

aug 29, 2025, 7:57 pm • 1 0 • view

And since you are doing this selective response thing, I'll just leave this here. I'm not responsible for the strawman you made up in your head. bsky.app/profile/kfin...

aug 29, 2025, 8:03 pm • 4 0 • view

So if I have say 100 positions I support and a potential candidate supports all but one, you expect me to abandon my other 99 because the one isn’t met?

aug 29, 2025, 8:27 pm • 0 0 • view

I literally told you to vote for Newsom if you want. Just don't pretend that you're still an ally if you do. The whole point of this thread was to make it clear how many people would oppose a Newsom candidacy. MF is out here pretending that "civil rights" and "funding for NPR" are of equal weight.

aug 29, 2025, 8:33 pm • 4 0 • view

Kind of funny that you think "trans rights" is the only problem we have with Newsom. The same guy who dated a 19 year old when he was 39, who has used the State to backstop ICE, has announced another war against the unhoused. But sure, "99% in lockstep" or something. thehill.com/homenews/sta...

aug 29, 2025, 8:38 pm • 9 1 • view

When the one is basic human rights, yes. We get it, you're willing to compromise. Don't know why you feel the need to keep trying to explain that one thing.

aug 29, 2025, 8:31 pm • 3 0 • view

Demanding people vote against their own interests while propping up a false binary is pure evil. Minimizing the democratic process for your own purposes is pure evil. Vote for Newsom if you want. Just stop pretending it's for altruistic reasons.

aug 29, 2025, 8:01 pm • 3 0 • view

"Pure evil is when a minority won't sacrifice themselves for my benefit, those selfish assholes"

aug 29, 2025, 8:10 pm • 5 0 • view

I'm unwilling to participate in voting for evil. I will not compromise. You will. Live with your shame.

aug 29, 2025, 8:04 pm • 4 0 • view

Parker: I just want a candidate that doesn’t want to take away my dignity. Jonataon: Listen. If you want my vote you just have to agree to never be able to use a public restroom. Yes, including the one at work. I don’t see what the problem is here. You’re the one acting like a child.

aug 29, 2025, 6:46 pm • 5 0 • view

Sigh…

aug 29, 2025, 6:35 pm • 4 0 • view

What, support your guy or else he’ll throw trans people under the bus? Thats what we’re mad about you fucking doorknob

aug 29, 2025, 6:37 pm • 8 0 • view

Congrats on proving the point that Gavin Newsom, and his boosters, are bad.

aug 29, 2025, 6:32 pm • 8 0 • view

> You need my vote a lot more than I need yours you sure about that, chief? that’s what you guys said back in 2024. didn’t work out so well, did it?

aug 29, 2025, 9:23 pm • 29 0 • view

They need your vote for the candidate they feel will harm them and are letting you know three years in advance but you are refusing to reconsider? What are you a supporter of again?

aug 29, 2025, 6:26 pm • 17 0 • view

His own comfort.

aug 29, 2025, 6:35 pm • 13 0 • view

His rights aren't even at stake, he said so himself. Just trampling others for the love of the game

aug 29, 2025, 6:37 pm • 13 0 • view

He's legit pissed that the prices for brunch have gone up. I just don't know how you reason with assholes who both hate democracy and engage in fantasy "what ifs" just to appease their own immorality.

aug 29, 2025, 6:39 pm • 11 0 • view

I am so baffled by people like you (there seem to be many) who: 1. Do NOT support Newsome personally, 2. Feel very strongly that everyone must commit to vote for him if he is hypothetically the nominee several years from now and 3. Argue for this by threatening and insulting people who don't agree

aug 29, 2025, 6:58 pm • 8 1 • view

I am a Bernie supporter who begrudgingly voted Hillary, Biden, and Harris in spite of hating them. I can promise you right now I absolutely will never vote for Newsome, even if he is the nominee, even if he completely reversed his depraved positions on human rights starting today. It's too late.

aug 29, 2025, 7:01 pm • 5 0 • view

I am a Bernie supporter and a Warren supporter. I voted HRC, Biden, and Harris in spite of hating them. I can promise you right now that I will vote for Newsom, if he is the eventual nominee, because I refuse to make all people suffer.

aug 29, 2025, 7:31 pm • 0 0 • view

Yes you are willing to sacrifice people. That's why you're a bad person.

aug 29, 2025, 7:35 pm • 2 0 • view

"I'M A SUPPORTER, NOW THROW YOURSELF UNDER THE BUS FOR ME!" -least fucking stupid lib

aug 29, 2025, 6:42 pm • 36 6 • view

Have you considered choking on a tall glass of piss?

aug 30, 2025, 12:26 am • 3 0 • view

How the fuck do you figure? You lost in 2024. You clearly fucking need my support more than I need yours, you dumb fucking asswipe.

aug 29, 2025, 6:28 pm • 11 0 • view

Here you go buddy. Happy? Now please answer the question at the end of the thread. I really hope your answer isn't "harassing vulnerable people," but that's what it's looking like.

aug 29, 2025, 6:38 pm • 2 0 • view

I agree with your referenced post. This started with Parker’s hypothetical of Newsom winning the nomination and her not voting for him. And what was the question? Too many response to dig through. Apologies.

aug 29, 2025, 7:12 pm • 0 0 • view

It's at the end of the thread I posted.

aug 29, 2025, 7:15 pm • 1 0 • view

Sorry…this post? bsky.app/profile/indo... This is the only one I see with questions in that thread. The last few posts were statements.

aug 29, 2025, 7:48 pm • 0 0 • view

Two posts down hun

aug 29, 2025, 7:51 pm • 0 0 • view

Jesus christ

aug 29, 2025, 7:49 pm • 1 0 • view

Now you end by saying don’t fight with supporters but you begin by saying you don’t support other people so that’s kind of a weird thing to say

aug 29, 2025, 6:29 pm • 98 1 • view

I’m your supporter (((dumbass))) Great.

aug 29, 2025, 7:28 pm • 9 0 • view

Your rights actually are at stake. Do you think you're safe from fascism? That's silly.

aug 29, 2025, 10:28 pm • 10 0 • view

Will you NOT vote for a hypothetical candidate who supports trans peoples rights?

aug 29, 2025, 6:31 pm • 9 0 • view

I absolutely WILL vote for any hypothetical candidate who supports trans people’s rights. I’ve made that clear from the start of this.

aug 29, 2025, 6:58 pm • 0 0 • view

Sounds like you need the vote of trans people more than they need you then

aug 29, 2025, 7:08 pm • 5 0 • view

Also, you can literally go fuck yourself

aug 29, 2025, 7:08 pm • 4 0 • view

.35% of eligible voters are trans people. Is that enough people to win a presidential election? Enjoy your spiders.

aug 29, 2025, 7:34 pm • 0 0 • view

Cite the source for your incorrect stat.

aug 29, 2025, 7:40 pm • 2 0 • view

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications... 825,000 trans people eligible to vote in 2024. 236,000,000 eligible voters. 825,000/236,000,000 =0.0035

aug 29, 2025, 8:10 pm • 0 0 • view

Self reported yes?

aug 29, 2025, 8:19 pm • 2 0 • view

It doesn’t say self-reported, but yes, that is a logical assessment. So double, triple, quadruple the .35%. It still doesn’t give enough people to win an election without the support of others.

aug 29, 2025, 8:42 pm • 0 0 • view

And yet you lost the last election. Because of the left, who also support trans rights. And despite your spectacular lose you're here demanding that trannies make the white man happy or else. Ally lol.

aug 29, 2025, 8:44 pm • 5 0 • view

I’m telling you that you need more supporters than just the trans community and leftists. Doesn’t matter what race or gender, they need supporters.

aug 29, 2025, 9:12 pm • 0 0 • view

You'll also vote for candidates that don't. Do you feel good about that? Was your "integrity" worth losing the last election?

aug 29, 2025, 7:01 pm • 5 0 • view

Should I have voted for Trump? Does he support trans people’s rights? Should I have not voted? Would that help trans people get equal rights?

aug 29, 2025, 7:32 pm • 0 0 • view

You should have held your vote hostage no matter the cost rather than vote for genocide. Now it is known that for you and yours, genocide isn't a deal breaker, why would they offer candidates that will support human rights if you vote for them regardless as long as the other guy looks worse.

aug 29, 2025, 7:38 pm • 4 0 • view

Impressed you're able to type this well with your head shoved so far up your ass

aug 30, 2025, 11:00 pm • 2 0 • view

If you're arguing for ignoring Democrats punting on peoples rights you aren't a supporter

aug 29, 2025, 6:58 pm • 5 0 • view

That means you won the last election, right professor?

aug 29, 2025, 6:26 pm • 45 1 • view

So, uh, how did that work out for you again?

aug 31, 2025, 2:40 pm • 3 0 • view

For me personally? Better than it has for trans people. Hence why I’m asking how I can use my privilege to better support them and get behind candidates who support equal rights for trans people.

aug 31, 2025, 2:44 pm • 0 0 • view

So you haven't understood anything said to you. Got it.

aug 31, 2025, 9:57 pm • 2 0 • view

“Haha, I have more privilege!”

aug 30, 2025, 10:42 pm • 4 0 • view

but you’re the one who keeps telling everyone to vote for your candidates

aug 29, 2025, 6:32 pm • 13 0 • view

Newsom is not my candidate.

aug 29, 2025, 7:04 pm • 0 0 • view

But he would be if he were the dem candidate, so why are you behaving so dishonestly about it.

aug 29, 2025, 7:10 pm • 9 0 • view

I haven’t been dishonest. I’ve been incredibly transparent. I will not vote for Newsom in the primary. If he wins the nomination, I will vote for him instead of voting Republican, sitting out, or wasting a vote on a third party candidate who will end up with 2-3% of the vote.

aug 29, 2025, 7:37 pm • 0 0 • view

All that to agree that he would be your candidate. This is why you're dishonest, you can't stop dissembling because you're intellectually dishonest.

aug 29, 2025, 7:42 pm • 5 0 • view

Between a Republican, third party, or not voting? Yes, he would be my candidate just as I’ve stated many times now. Nothing about that is dishonest. You do understand that candidates change from the primary to the general?

aug 29, 2025, 8:14 pm • 0 0 • view

So is he or isn't he? You're already making excuses why you just had to vote for him.

aug 29, 2025, 8:22 pm • 3 0 • view

so stop arguing in his defense and start demanding a better candidate now

aug 29, 2025, 7:15 pm • 3 0 • view

you voting for someone taking away my rights doesn't help me

aug 29, 2025, 6:56 pm • 5 0 • view

If you're not willing to roll back Trump admin policy you're not a supporter, you're using Trump to do your dirty work.

aug 29, 2025, 11:32 pm • 17 1 • view

Too bad. We'll take you down with us if we dont get what we want. We refuse to be reasoned with, we are selfish. You have no power over us. Compromise or lose again.

aug 29, 2025, 6:12 pm • 20 0 • view

How has that worked out for you so far? Sounds like pretty fucking bad. .35% of the people don’t have enough votes to nominate their preferred candidate. So you better learn to get people on your side instead of arguing with them.

aug 29, 2025, 6:37 pm • 1 0 • view

hey man im with you!! if trans people insist on having so-called "equal rights" (🙄 snooore), then throw them under the fucking bus and good riddance! im an ally too btw :) 🏳️‍🌈

aug 29, 2025, 6:45 pm • 5 0 • view

No. Not only is that stat wrong but I don't care. Give us what we want or it all burns and us with it. Apparently you can't win with or without or support, but you think you can condescend to minorities about what's in our own best interest. But thanks for the impotent threats.

aug 29, 2025, 6:45 pm • 15 0 • view

fuck off.

aug 29, 2025, 6:44 pm • 2 0 • view

How'd the last election go, Jon?

aug 29, 2025, 6:33 pm • 5 0 • view

We’ve got news for you sweetie. We are the “swing voters” now. You can’t win without us and after the way Hakeem etc have treated Zohran blue no matter who is dead. You can either listen to us and nominate someone we will support or lose. Your choice.

aug 29, 2025, 6:32 pm • 27 1 • view

You’ve tried courting republicans for 20 years and still lose. Time to wake up

aug 29, 2025, 6:34 pm • 22 1 • view

You don’t know anything about my last 20 years. So don’t “you” me when talking about a party. I was raised Republican in a deep red state and grew to recognize their hatred for minorities. I’ve been a leftist for 10+ years and am still trying to grow.

aug 29, 2025, 7:08 pm • 0 0 • view

“Screw you, I’m your closet friend and confident, you assbutt”

aug 30, 2025, 10:51 pm • 3 0 • view

You're not leftist. You're politically ignorant. You moved away from extremism and from your inherently limited perspective you think you've come a long way. You're lying to yourself. If you want to grow, consider shutting the fuck up and not speaking over minorities about their own best interests

aug 29, 2025, 7:13 pm • 24 1 • view

You don’t dictate my views. If I wasn’t a leftist, I’d be actively supporting Newsom or others who don’t support you having equal rights. You think that you have all the answers and are lying to yourself.

aug 29, 2025, 7:44 pm • 0 0 • view

Why are you yelling?

aug 30, 2025, 10:52 pm • 3 0 • view

Of course I don't dictate what you believe, neither do you, I'm accurately assessing your position based on all available evidence. That you're willing to ever support him, that your morality and principles can be compromised by the situation, are why you are not on the left. And not a good person.

aug 29, 2025, 7:47 pm • 13 1 • view

This ia from today bsky.app/profile/ktla...

aug 29, 2025, 8:47 pm • 13 1 • view

Fucking vile. But as long as he churns out ai meme slop for blue maga...

aug 29, 2025, 8:50 pm • 1 0 • view

Yeah, he’s a piece of shit. Is Trump stopping him?

aug 29, 2025, 9:22 pm • 0 0 • view

What?

aug 29, 2025, 9:25 pm • 11 0 • view

Goal posts move = Views moves. It’s called new information. If that new information is Newsom vs. any Republican, I will support Newsom to make sure other minority groups don’t suffer. You say you’ll just walk. So you’re okay fucking over black people, brown people, Jewish people, Palestinians, etc

aug 29, 2025, 8:18 pm • 1 0 • view

Yes, your morality is situational. You seem to think re-explaining why you're a bad person makes you not a bad person. You voted for genocide last time yes? How did that work out for you? Are we better off because of it? Did compromising morality work?

aug 29, 2025, 8:24 pm • 3 0 • view

Genocide hasn't shaken you from being a party loyalist so yeah, you're filth.

aug 31, 2025, 4:53 pm • 2 0 • view

You're arguing that trans people should vote for a transphobe because they need your vote? What exactly do you think they need your vote *for*, my dude?

aug 29, 2025, 7:38 pm • 4 0 • view