I’ll admit pizza topping was far from the best comparison. My argument is to put the pizza place under new management. Then hire employees who can get the orders right so everyone is happy at eats. They want to close the only restaurant so no one gets to eat and all people suffer.
Vote Blue No Matter Who is a definitionally amoral movement. You are berating people for refusing to vote for someone who wants to disenfranchise them. All this energy could simply be put toward berating the theoretical voter that wouldn't vote for Newsom if he simply stfu about trans people!
I’m defending my position just as they’re defending theirs. My point is that progress is often incremental. Take whatever wins you can get and continue to advance the rest of your agenda. If you wait for 100% of your agenda to align with one candidate, you’ll never win.
No they fucking don’t. If Newsom is the nominee, find voters who don’t care about his trash policies. Don’t whine to people who have already said they won’t vote for him.
Yes they fucking do. Refusing to vote is closing the restaurant so no one can eat. You just aren’t willing to admit that you’re okay with all others to suffer. You hold all your other causes hostage. Not an ally.
You have three years to make sure Gavin Newsom isn’t the nominee, that’s your job. Get to work.
It’s also your job. Get to work.
Ok so why are you arguing with the people doing that?
Because they support Newsom but also want to look like good people
hey maybe you should answer this then: what right that affects you *personally* are you willing to sacrifice to get a democrat elected?
They never answer these questions. 🤔 Another favorite reply to "we have to throw Gaza under the bus to win elections" is "would you kill a child to win an election?" They never answer this one either.
at least not without sounding like a fucking maniac. i saw some pretty bizarre ones back in 2020 that were like "Joe Biden could rape me and I'd still vote for him!"
What is it about transphobia that has you this cultishly committed to attacking the targets of transphobia?
I’m not attacking them. They’re the ones responding to my posts and I’m defending my position. They’re welcome to stop responding.
You came into someone else's thread responding to the op You're free to shut the fuck up at any point
No, it’s saying “that restaurant only serves raw meat and eggs or human shit with nails in it, you guys can choose to eat there but I’d rather not”
No, the Republican restaurant serves raw meat and eggs or human shit with nails in it. The democratic restaurant serves only pepperoni and sausage pizza.
If one restaraunt has a "no trannies allowed" sign in the window, and the other has a "transgenders - carryout only" sign, then I don't care what either one is serving. I'm not giving them my business.
Not if you're trans or homeless though
Not if Newsom is the nominee
Nope, still a shit pizza. Genocide is a bright red line, piece of shit
That makes no fucking sense. A non vote is a non vote. The worst you can say is that it is denying oneself a voice, but it isn’t causing the government to not exist.
Which is why I have said you forfeit your right to complain about negative things that happen if you don’t vote. You lose your voice by no voting.
Again that makes no sense
You just said not voting is denying yourself a voice. Therefore, you have no voice if you don’t vote. These are your words.
i simply refuse to use my voice to help a ghoul that is fine with my friends being killed, ill use it to call that guy an asshole all day long
Call him an asshole all day long. I’ll happily join you. But if you don’t vote, don’t use your voice to complain when republicans continue to make your life and everyone’s lives significantly worse.
Can people who *can’t* vote complain about the government?
This is actually in the constitution, not voting means not having an opinion, George Washington said so
Then don’t fucking nominate someone who doesn’t understand the entire fucking concept of human rights and freedom, and is willing to throw our most vulnerable citizens (trans, homeless) under the bus just because you like his dank memes. JFC, it’s not complicated.
Nobody’s refusing to vote. It’s 2025. There’s nothing to vote on. We’re just being really clear up front we won’t vote for him. If you insist on nominating him, any of these metaphors you’re abusing starts and ends with YOU.
I’ve stated many times that I support Pritzker and others. I would not vote for Newsom except in the general if he gained the nomination. I’d vote for him over a Republican, wasting a third party vote, or not voting.
So you would vote for Newsom. And you’re out here arguing with people who don’t want to, even though you claim not to want to. When you could be doing literally anything else. Nah, we see you
You do understand how elections work, right? Primaries happen before the general election. Primary: I would not vote for Newsom General: I would vote for Newsom over a Republican, third party, or sitting out. Take care.
Yo. You think that trans people are worth sacrificing to the greater good. Let me again make this clear we are not drowning any minorities to keep your ass safe. We all float or we all drown
TL:DR I ain’t reading that shit but good luck promoting Newsom! You’re doing so good!
You certainly have a lot of folksy aphorisms and a noticeable lack of concrete policy statements. I'm sure that's totally unintentional and good faith
It’s not the only restaurant though. Not when JB Pritzker’s House O’ Pizza exists.
Agreed. That’s what primaries are for. I’ve only said I’d vote for Newsom if he somehow won the nomination for the general election. I’d much prefer JB Pritzker’s House O’Pizza even if it only offers Chicago style deep dish. That’s called compromising.
I'd much prefer we didn't discuss basic human rights like they're fun little flavors we can pick and choose!
Agreed. Apologies for that analogy. Was trying to dumb it down. Wasn’t trying to be insensitive.
Your moment to change that first “if” is right now.