According to a new poll from last week, Hungary's main opposition, the centre-right Tisza party, has a 15-point lead over Prime Minister Viktor Orban's Fidesz among decided voters ahead of next year’s election.
According to a new poll from last week, Hungary's main opposition, the centre-right Tisza party, has a 15-point lead over Prime Minister Viktor Orban's Fidesz among decided voters ahead of next year’s election.
Fascism never works.
What a hoot to see Orban booted out! 👍🏼
They won’t have a real election and neither will the US
Let's hope he lives to see the election. Orban may take a page from Putin's book and poison the guy. If we don't stand up against our own regime takeover, we will be in the same boat. 😢
We are there. America elected a man who told the masses that he would be a dictator. History will tell future generations that not enough of the population recognized the danger before it was too much to late. welcome to the new amerikkka.
HOPEFULLY history will talk about how the masses protested and boycotted and held strikes and put Trump's facist coup to rest before it secured power.
If not, there may be no one to tell the tale, as a Nuclear Armed expansionist Fascist State ups the ante toward acceleration of global extinction a great deal, because Fascist Oligarchs are Ecocidal and Omnicidal. Fascism is a Death drive.
I hear what you're saying, but from an objective standpoint – I am not American- I do not think that peaceful protest will be enough. I think it's going to take a full on Civil War. The time for peaceful protest was before he was in office. Now look what he's doing to the people who protest.
I still believe we will be able to rid ourselves of this pestilence b4 it can take hold. Historically, we've done it before, and we'll do it again. I don't believe it will take a civil war. Democracy may die in ignorance, but more and more people are becoming informed. Fascism will die in knowledge.
I truly hope that you are right.
As an Alabamian, I know that center-right is preferable to right-right. Harm reduction.
And they know it will result in Orban winning.
Prediction: As soon as Orban loses (if they allow a fair election), Trump will see the tide turning and cancel midterms.
You will see mass walkouts, protests, and strikes if he tries any kind of BS.
If Americans were that courageous then walkouts would have happened when Jan 6th and other criminals got pardoned, and when over $1 billion in restitution to victims was absolved.
💯 I don’t really have faith that we’ll rise up until we’re starving. I’ve gone to the marches, but I know soooo many non-politicals just sitting back like it’s business as usual.
Me too, they think others won't let the worst happen, but it is happening. 🤦
Actually, I think nothing will happen until the spell is broken with MAGA. But I’ve read too many “sure, Trump f*cked me with (new student loan regulations /Medicaid cuts/tariffs/ meals on wheels, etc.) but I don’t regret my vote” articles to believe they’ll ever see the light.
Yeah, people followed Jim Jones to their death in a jungle, you think we’re that much better in 1 generation with a 24-7 lie machine in every home?
I had hoped.
I sure hope so. Viva la revolution!
We can hope. 🤞
Yep fingers crossed
Orban will meddle with the election.
Let's hope election manipulation doesn't "eliminate" that lead. I want to see a Hungary without Orban ASAP.
As an Austrian, I hope so too. Orban is Putin's lapdog. The EU must get rid of this post-Stalinist mentality.
Yet somehow he'll magically win 93% of the vote.
Just like here… unfortunately 7 swing states… lol … yeah right
It could have a 90 point lead and somehow still not win 🤔
Yea, well, Gore, Kerry, HRC and Harris won too so...
This isn't America.
Oh because, of course, the US is the centre of the world 🤡
I’m not saying that this Hungarian poll is correct, but none of those candidates held a +15 point advantage over their opponent this late in the election.
Also, the U.S. has an Electoral College that makes national polling virtually irrelevant.
Magyar has a channel on YT, sometimes they translate with subtitles. He is an interesting person, charismatic. I wish him health and luck with his presidential run.
Orban will rig elections like his boss Putin
That somewhat optimistically assumes that the opposition will be part of the election. Chances are the government will find "corruption", or "tax evasion", or some other "reason" to prevent the opponent to participate. See Russia for blueprint.
Palantir will solve this… in favour of the government, of course…
Frage mich nur wie die Routinen modifiziert werden, so dass die ganze Korruption der Regierung nicht auffliegt wenn Palantir loslegt.
Die braucht nicht „auffliegen“. Sobald jemand belastende Anschuldigungen vorbringt, wird nachhaltig gelöscht und verleumdet. Doubt is our product. Eine „award-winning“ strategy“, erprobt von der Tabak-, Ernährungs- und Pharmalobby. Dagegen hilft nur eigenes Wissen. link.springer.com/content/pdf/...
… see „Table 1 -> „Counterattack“
Interessante Lektüre! Und interessante Fallstudie....
Solange „keiner recht hat“ gewinnt der Lügner.
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Turns out being a raging asshole on a national level doesn’t work out so well. How long before the GOP learns that lesson?
They won't. They're taking 1 trillion dollars out of our nation's healthcare with their evil bill. But there will be no quarter for these fuckers
Not soon enough!! We have far to many raging Rethuglican Assholes, who should be removed from office, Trump being #1.
Yup. Hopefully voters figure it out.
I guess it depends on how many CPAC events they've gone to where Victor orban was a guest speaker at those events.
Seems they never will
Not if Democrats continue to not turn out and VOTE. ☹️ (We have met the enemy and they are US. Well, us collectively; I voted for both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris.)
Not all of us are Democrats and it’s not a flex to vote for shitty centrists and/or warmongers. Support better candidates, down with the DNC.
Ah, so you want to vote for candidates who have ZERO chance of winning and ending up with Republicans in office again, got it. (And that's REALLY been working out so well for us, hasn't it? 🙄)
And running tepid centrists has worked so well too - they’ve lost 2 of the last 3 elections. Clearly you’re not paying attention. It’s blatantly obvious you can’t win without us and we’re done compromising. It’s YOUR turn to “hold your nose”.
Well, clearly YOU'RE not paying attention. Based on the 2016, 2020, and 2024 results, Democrats are too sexist to vote for qualified women candidates. 🤷♂️
Also, I’m not a Democrat - I have better standards than that. Many many other people who aren’t Republicans also aren’t Democrats.
You took the wrong lesson, genius. The losses of Hillary and Kamala had nothing to do with their vaginas, and everything to do with not running good campaigns. Why not analyze WHY they lost instead of blaming it on sexism just because both happened to be women? That’s a cop-out.
There’s plenty wrong with the DNC. But both Hillary and Kamala were infinitely superior candidates to Trump.
And yet they still lost. It had nothing to do with them being women, either, it had to do with them running shitty campaigns and cozying up to warmongers while being smugly overconfident that just not being Trump would coast them to victory. They. Lost.
A shitty centrist is better than a fascist. You get to vote, use that power and make the best choice you can. We're adults, pouting and saying not my fault doesn't change where we are. If you didn't vote, it is your fault.
I did vote, actually. Just not for a warmonger. I DID make the best choice I could. It’s not my fault that shitty candidates felt entitled to my vote just for not being Trump. Nor that shitlibs like you would rather be angry your shitty candidates lost than vote for better ones.
"Shitlibs." And, thanks to people like you, look what we've got for another four years. Yay. How's THAT going to work out for you? 🤡
No. That is incorrect. Thanks to shitty candidates who ignored the will of he majority of their constituents, and the greed and corruption of those candidates. Again, your candidates lost two of the last three elections. How is THAT working out for YOU? Grow the fuck up, shitlib.
Again, congratulations! You got what you wanted.
And congrats to you for deliberately misconstruing lefties’ disdain for Harris as being support for Trump. We ALL said Trump sucked. We all ALSO said Harris sucked. ‘Murica was fucked no matter who won. Stop acting smug and start being helpful.
Congratulations
There will come a pain point for many. Problem is that it’s going to hurt everyone else first.
Everyone else first. Then the white straight cis gender. We could avoid a lot of this if the above would fight instead of watch & pearl clutch. We caused it. We need to fix it.
Thank you!! As a 40 yo white male military veteran - I agree 100%.
Thank YOU for your service. 💙
Debbie thank you for owning it and understanding.
Now to get all white people to own it & understand it. ✊️💙
White Women can team up with Black Women, and Fix this. All the males have lost their balls
Black women are the reason why we have nice things. White men are why we don't. They need to rest & stay safe while we move our privledged selves out to the streets. 🫶
Don’t forget Latina and Asian women.
Humans need to fix this. Doesn’t matter color, sex, or language.
White people put us here. Minorities/POC are getting kidnapped, brutalized & their human rights stripped away. Why are you making them save us? None of that ALL LIVES MATTER crap again.
Amen!
Some are just not grasping it, quite yet! Thank you!
More & more joining each protest. I'm the loud redhead in Iowa introducing myself & getting people signed up to the Bsky gang. You bring a friend & you bring a friend & you bring a friend & you bring a friend. There are more of us than them. People need to get that in their head.
Unfortunately, I live in a Maga city and county, and they hate my white as white ass here.
I'm in a pink state but a very blue county. The red people are mainly on the outskirts & ...across the street from me. Outskirts transplants.
Ahh, another fellow redhead, my sisters that are on here, are going to be oh, fuck no, hide lol
Redhead, middle child of 3 girls, Leo & post menopausal. I don't fuck around. 😂😂😂
That’s what blows my mind. I see people thinking this is normal. I see them saying things like “we are back baby” 🤮 WAKE UP!
We are NO where near of being back!! I know i have seen people on here posts, i have to shake my head about some of it.
When they need to to stay relevant. People hate the Democrats acting weak and feckless more than they hate Republicans being assholes. If Dems step up, Republicans will have to change, but until they do, there is no need to bother.
Pretty sure I hate republicans beings assholes more
Time to run right over the gop…as if they weren’t even there.
I’d like to say tomorrow BUT tomorrow never comes.
The bigger question is when will voters here see that in the current administration and many members of Congress and in sprite of gerrymandering turn back the MAGAs
That is the million dollar question. Way too many variables to predict at this point.
Probably about when Democrats stop being so chickenshit about voting for very capable women presidential candidates? We kinda did this to ourselves, ya know? (I'm saying "We" collectively, of course; I voted for both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris.)
They are both very capable and would have been infinitely superior. At the same time, it’s pretty clear the large parts of the country (including Democrats) are realizing that late stage capitalism isn’t working very well. Not sure either would/could have changed it.
Learning is absolutely against their religion.
Literally, the very first story in the Bible is about how gaining knowledge is the original sin
When the first militia is activated.
There is a very real chance. Some might argue the first has already been activated.
youtu.be/Ci8HfhBhdFM?...
MAGA is doubling and tripling down on the a€€hole platform and will never get the message.
We haven’t even started to feel pain yet. As the layoffs start and hospitals close, it will come. But, you are correct, there are way too many in the cult who would die before admitting they are wrong.
When the tariffs kick in, and people are stripped of their healthcare and the prices of goods soars due to lack of the labor force that the immigrants filled… it will soon wake up even the brainwashed magas. They will never admit it but they will see the outcome of trumpism.
Just wait until we implement the general strike. They will all come a tumblin' down. People have the power. Always.
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When is the strike happening?
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GOP learn a lesson. Oh when H3ll freezes. The GOP is drunk with power and over stimulated white the harm they put on people.
He has been PM for over a decade and was a raging asshole the whole time. so it was worth it for way longer than it should have been and thats a systemic failure. You can't rely on popularity to do the work of accountability or you lose many years and sustain much damage
The people of Hungary kept voting him in 🤷♂️
This is what I’m sayin
It is depressing, isn’t it? That people can be rather horrible en masse consistently and for a prolonged period of time.
I’m Israeli so I know
You said GOP and learns in the same sentence……cute.
Pain is an excellent teacher. Some are learning already. Not many, but a few. There will be more.
I believe you’re right, it will hit them harder simply because they don’t see it coming. All kinds of substance abuse and domestic violence will be the result of the finding out. The innocent will suffer at the hands of the complicit. Sad🥺
The moment it actually starts hindering their plans.... Anyday now....
they are not interested in learning ANYthing