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Matt @matthewblott.bsky.social

The Lucy Connelly case is complicated as there's the context of the riots at the time. This was the case with excessive sentencing in 2011. That said I broadly agree with your points, it's the result of well intentioned but stupid hate speech laws which need to go.

sep 3, 2025, 9:22 am • 0 0

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David Clark @david-k-clark.bsky.social

Incitement to violence has been an offence for a very long time, and rightly so.

sep 3, 2025, 9:48 am • 4 0 • view
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Matt @matthewblott.bsky.social

I'm aware but 'Incitement to violence' is a bit abstract. If every hypothetical reference to violence was prosecuted courts wouldn't be able to deal with anything else.

sep 3, 2025, 9:51 am • 0 0 • view
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David Clark @david-k-clark.bsky.social

As with the Lucy Connolly case, context and reach will be considerations in this case. We’re not talking about some bloke mouthing off to his mates.

sep 3, 2025, 9:54 am • 2 0 • view
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Matt @matthewblott.bsky.social

So as per Helen's example, those with 'Decapitate TERFS' banners that received no censure should be sent to prison?

sep 3, 2025, 9:58 am • 0 0 • view
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Matt @matthewblott.bsky.social

Should a racist that says 'kick them out' be prosecuted because he used the word 'kick' implying violence which might be carried out by a listener?

sep 3, 2025, 9:59 am • 0 0 • view
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Matt @matthewblott.bsky.social

(Actually I think this is the problem with social media - it very much is the same as a bloke sounding of to his mates. It's just it has the potential to reach far more people.)

sep 3, 2025, 10:01 am • 0 0 • view
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David Clark @david-k-clark.bsky.social

He’s aware of his reach, so he did this knowing the potential effect and has to be held responsible.

sep 3, 2025, 10:04 am • 1 0 • view
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Matt @matthewblott.bsky.social

Sure but I doubt Lucy Connelly thought much about that.

sep 3, 2025, 10:05 am • 0 0 • view
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David Clark @david-k-clark.bsky.social

Perhaps, but not thinking through the consequences of your actions is rarely much of a defence in law.

sep 3, 2025, 11:15 am • 2 0 • view