Actually a sensible identity system for the UK to bear down on the black market might improve the UK.... it is the Right - with their own sense of entitlement - never allow it The magical thinking around migration makes me doubt the intelligence of those obsessing about it (from either extreme)
Have you tried getting a job lately? You have to provide a ton of paperwork to show you have the right to work. If people are working here without permission it's because their employer is turning a blind eye. ID cards wouldn't fix that.
Actually - it would Making it a requirement to produce ID on demand at work would make the business of detecting illegal workers much simpler - therefore the UK less attractive as a destination for chancers I agree they are being exploited by unscrupulous bosses, and those need to be sanctioned
Chancers?
Yep - that is what economic migrants with no case for asylum are - chancers
Do not imagine all those coming here & working without permission are all "victims" - that is bleeding heart bullshit
You have to show your passport when you start a job. The employer has to keep a copy. This has been the case since about 2011. Target employers not workers.
I say workers should be required to carry ID Then - no delays. Contacting HQ to get some faded photocopy of a passport from when someone was 1st taken on isn't an answer Recently I saw immigration raid on a restaurant - it'll take hrs of work over weeks to confirm employee status - unnecessary
Of course you mean the raid, right? The biggest chancers I see are born and raised here and the employers who want the maximum while paying the minimum and providing crap conditions.
No I mean the raid IS necessary, but could have been much simpler if we had ID cards implemented. The cost & delay of processing the raid is unnecessary. Once those are established such raids might then become unnecessary
And BTW the reason employers use illegals - and it is always knowingly - is they do not need to pay NI, or deduct tax, or pay minimum wage, or comply with fair employment or H&S legislation, they can dispose of such workers without constraint. By doing so they undercut & damage honest businesses
And, of course a heavy fine or even mandatory closure for operations employing illegal workers
I have long thought it a sensible idea! Presently I am thankful to those who have argued against it. An identity system requires trust. At the moment there are too many bad actors interfering across the world in systems of IT and government- the suggestion, at the moment makes me uncomfortable.
I dunno why the UK thinks when most other countries in Europe have some form of ID system we are better off without one Those who oppose it mostly already have NHS# Passport, Driving License.... and happily allow Amazon & Google track them online I call resistance - paranoia
ID cards are something, like high speed rail, new airport runways and nuclear power, that Britain could only manage after huge expense, much soul searching, and being years behind schedule. Even then it would be full of bugs.