“You cannot argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” -Mark Twain This is why the medical experts are leaving the CDC.
“You cannot argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” -Mark Twain This is why the medical experts are leaving the CDC.
The whole spectrum of decent human beings should walk out. Every government office institution or department, all schools public and private K through advanced degrees. Every hospital, every media organization. The nation would grind to a halt. It would bring Republicans to their knees in one day.
Their personal ethics demands that they not allow their hard-earned credibility to be used to seemingly endorse ignorant and insane bullshit.
Perfect post! Going to repost!
And the intelligent have nothing to offer other than the status quo, which leads to a fascist rising and commanding the fools.
Science can’t survive where ignorance is policy!
What really makes me furious was that the idiot was confirmed. They knew all of this about RFK Jr. and they still confirmed him.
They didn’t just confirm him, they confirmed ignorance as leadership. That’s the real danger.
That's what I meant -- they gave this ignorant buffoon the keys to the kingdom. Why why why. They should be tried for dereliction of duty.
If you don’t want the Covid shot no one is making you get it. But they shouldn’t stop people from getting it if they want it. I had a mild case a couple of years ago, only because I continently get the shot every year. I hope the courts or Congress can stop this madness.
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SO NOW WE DIE INSTEAD OF WORRYING WHO IS STUPID? NO THANKS TO THE BAD KENNEDY WHO MUST RESIGN NOW!
Also, you can’t argue when you’re dead ~ T-Money
Ain't this the truth.
Leaving the rest of us at the mercy of the simpletons 😢
My dad used to say, when you argue with an idiot, you become one yourself. In other words, don't try to reason with a MAGAt!
Exactly.
And paying taxes without representation
Yes!
Me too 😩
When will Americans wake up, the MAGA movement is killing you. Poor economy, military in the streets and medical system in disarray
And proves Mark Twain always knew his shit.
Yea like what experience does that brain fried RFK have. Pure stupidity.
This 👆
Wish they had left when Mandy-Do-Nothing was still there.
Hopefully blue states will start hiring them
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Not that I would want to be in their shoes dealing with the idiocy of this Administration but… Does leaving now open it up for the R’s to replace with their own loyalist pchychophants? Oh, & where are the Epstein files?
Exactly. It is impossible to win an argument with fools or cult members, some of whom are stupid and some of whom are intelligent.
They are not leaving they are being pushed out by this stupid uneducated administration and their stupid ass leader. Trump is leaving our health system in charge of the sickest man in history and the damage this man can and is doing should make us all sick with fear. I am not getting a flu shot now
I wished more recognized that he is in Dementia. If u have never experienced it, u will not see it. It is a very sad disease and he has it big time. Some are saying (doctors) that he won't last the full year. Where the hell is the concern from his family? I know never mind they are making BILLIONS.
Unfortunately, what does that leave us with...?
Yesterday... (Zoomer homeschooled MAGAt) "I'm looking forward to what RFK Jr does about drug prices" Literally verbatim.
Work in HC my whole career, this is gut wrenching
Exactly.
Or ... when you wrestle with pigs, you're going to get some mud on you.
But the outcome is worrying.
There is a suggestion that all move to CA under Newsom.
If, as I suspect, Trump/GOP/TRA, et al, think people who grow up in the country are ignorant idiots, it is clear proof that THEY are ignorant idiots.
Let's face it, working at the CDC is not going to look good on your resume for few years.
Perfect use of Occam’s Razor. SLC was a literary genius.
It’s why Scientists & leaders in many government agencies are leaving. You can beat your head against stupidity for only so long!
Zero respect for, and from, the Secretary. Yoh, Bob, explain the differences between prokaryotes and eukaryotes.
That's MAGA to a T
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Remove the supreme court!
Stupid with an attitude.
Doctors can find jobs that pay much higher. We're the losers, because they're leaving their life-saving #research behind them.😫 #Pro-DeathParty #GrandOldPartyOfDeath
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I fully understand. They tried to save us, this country is too broken.
Can't blame them when you have imbecile in charge. I fear we are getting ready to find out we had it much better than many think. We are quickly approaching third world.
Do you ever get the feeling they are trying to kill you? Asking for a friend, in Canada.
every single thing they are doing is to kill us through legislation and executive order. and claim innocence. they don't care about the immigrants that die in ice camps. they don't care if nursing home residents die. they hope we die, so they don't have to shoot us
Correct it’s exhausting arguing with righteous ignorant people. A very bad combination.
My father was a Salesman and he used to say, “Son, act like a dumbshit and they will treat you as an equal.”
Never argue with a pig. You’ll just get dirty and the pig likes it.
That and they’re being fired right left and center.
But how about if those stupid persons are in charge of people’s lives?
I wish someone rich would hire them for a think tank or something so their expertise would available for the public.
Right -- and THEN what?
Damn.. that’s right on.. wonder why I’ve never seen this Twain quote ?🤔
In politics stupidity is not a handicap.
Don't wrestle a pig in their sty. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
Of course
He's clearly a man who hasn't had enough enemas.
Don’t need them when you’re main lining heroin
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Samuel Clemens might have been one of the smartest.
Mark Twain - ever wise.
I’m glad we agree
No I disagree. They are miscalculating. Force trump and Co. to fire them. They could in the mean time, preserve and publish data, undermine directives and engage in everyday forms of resistance. Sue for wrongful dismissal. Grind the administration to a halt. Instead they create theatre and go home.
"But if your government is that stupid & will kill people then screw it, burn that shit down" -Kim Twain
“You cannot argue with stupid people. Till you're Blue in the face," MAGA an't Making anybody Greater! Just Poorer
#FIRERFKJRSTAT
Like arguing with flat earthers and anti vaxxers. Zero point in trying. Everything is based on a hunch which they call “common sense.”
And all of the scientists are leaving the US.
Looking atbthe amount of staff, a purge is needed
It is a multidimensional tragedy for our nation & the world. For the careerists at CDC it is a death in the family. Whether Admins or scientists they devoted themselves to our health security, a greater good with no profit beyond lives saved & suffering avoided. Not enuf for MAGA.
That's why I'm estranged from my Jim Jordan MAGA family. I truly just couldn't take it anymore! Is it coincidence that I'm the only one who left home and highly educated? It's a growing population but the old-timer originalists there are more like a cult. They'll never be convinced they are wrong.
Russell Voughts Project 2025 on how to make over the government “We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected,” “When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. .... We want to put them in trauma.”
You might want one of these:
"Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it." - often attributed to George Bernard Shaw
Maybe there’s another perp to include in the Trumpstein Files…”Kennedy recently mused wildly about watching children in airports and realizing they have mitochondrial challenges.”
And the race to the bottom continues. And scene!
Brilliant 🔥🤎🔥
Yes it is SO EASY to quit!!! But the courageous ones, those are the ones who STAY!!!
Gotta read This Book.
This is one of the truest truisms. And it does not matter if you pelt them with facts. They gonna stupid.
You can’t fix stupid.
And the corollary: Bystanders watching you argue with someone absurd, won't always be able to tell who is who
Aha!
Well said. Sad, but true.
Democide is the murder of a person or people by their government. Democide isn't necessarily the elimination of entire cultural groups but rather groups within the country that the government eradicates for political reasons due to claimed future threats. #Impeach47
That and the request from an unqualified idiot to sign off on and present fake numbers.
The attention-seeking narcissist hasn't been seen or heard from in 48 hours. Repeat - 48 HOURS! This is cause for hope, er concern, so I sincerely hope that if he's unwell he has all the medical 'experts' he's appointed treating him. RFK will no doubt offer advice. open.substack.com/pub/meidasto...
Truth counts. Proud to stand with these hero’s of life😊 I Hear Ya😎
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They are smarter than Kennedy and need to stay to be vigilantes in the trump regime
You can't outsmart them. Gotta out dumb them. It works
What boggles the mind is that the competent people are leaving and the stupid people remain in charge. If that isn't a testament to how broken our government is under the incompetent Trump regime, I don't know what is.
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Once, I was offered a job with a salary increase. It was expected that I perform at my utmost, but the main reason for the offer was that I would take the fallout if my boss messed up while she was working. I told her NO. If you ask me, I will tell you the truth and your options so you can decide.
I had a friend who was in a similar situation. They found out after they were hired that they would be responsible for firing everyone the boss wanted fired and their last responsibility would be to fire themselves.
Kennedy will be moved to an ambassadorship in Marg-e-lego land. Replaced by the CEO of Ivermectin. VOTE
I agree. No point in staying. America must wake up. See reality. Find a backbone.
As the old adage says... Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
You can lead a republican to water, but they would just drown each other.
may I suggest every person who has access and okay with it… get all your vaccinations. Now. Got my flu shot on Weds. Over summer measles cause I never had measles. Pnemonia RSV Whooping cough Updated Covid pharmacist said coming Remember George Washington ordered troops get small pox vaccination.
States where the governors actually care about their constituents, and aren’t Oompa Loompa worshipers, are going to have their owns versions of the CDC. No idiot with their brain eaten by a worm will be involved.
Who wants to be complicit in the downfall of science?
It's for the money and they could give a flip.... and Trump is in charge of the govt.'s checkbook. Republicans in Congress handed it over to him.
Exactly why I left our local board of health recently.
It makes no sense to work for idiots who destroy sound public health policy when you’ve built your knowledge and experience to help improve the health of 300,000,000 people.
Washington, Oregon and California need to recruit these medical people being displaced by the GOP dark ages
They’re abandoning us. Call it what it is. Cowardice.
I absolutely have to agree 👍
“Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. … reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one's prejudgment simply need not be believed - … Against stupidity we are defenseless.” Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906 - 1945)
Love this quote. So true!
And why all of us left Twitter.
It’s why people are leaving from every branch of government. That cabinet meeting was the most disgraceful sycophantic display and people with integrity want no part of it.
No, you definitely can not argue with stupid!
Thank you for posting this quotation. I wanted to use this quotation a couple of times recently, and couldn't remember it. Too lazy to google it. Hope I haven't acquired onset senile dementia by osmosis from having to see that ugly, bloated, fat chunked bag of hot air face constantly bombarding tv
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One of my favorite quotes.
"You cannot argue with MAGA. They will drag you down to their level, hurt everyone including themselves then claim they own you."
There needs to be an attorney fund, so these people can fight these firings in court instead of resigning. Why make it Easy for the dictator, like CBS does.
2+2=5
They need to stop leaving and get fired. JFC
“Don’t weep for the stupid, you’ll be crying all day” - Alexander Anderson - Hellsing Ultimate Abridged
You can’t fix fucked up. They finally realized they were talking to a crackhead & a meth addict whose brain got fried from the 💩 he was doing in the 80s & the quaaludes he’s probably still taking. That, and after listening to his looney tune BS reasoning in that voice, they said “fuc it, we’re out”.
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It’s a damn shame what’s happening to the CDC. Thanks, MAGA voters.
CDC was once respected worldwide. It was the pinnacle of research and scientific progress. Now it's a shameful joke. Kinda like the United States is.
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You can’t play chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, craps on the board, then struts around like it won the game.
There's the stupidity thing, yes, and then there's the taint of trying to ever be taken seriously again in any medical discussion if someone thinks you've been complicit in some whacky new RFK Jr. scheme. The "stupid boss" syndrome but on Dr. Ronnie Jackson steroids. Rage on, brainworms!
Also, these medical experts are not willing to participate in genocide.
I hope they gather to create the shadow CDC, ready to step in when the regime falls.
They really ought to start up a shadow CDC. Post what THEY would do.. wait a week or three the post why #WeWereRight!
The stupid will try to beat you with their ignorance every time
It is also a horrible waste of your time. Just go. People will start dying like crazy in about 12 months and they'll be screaming "why is this happening, where are all the experts?" and you know where they'll be? Not in this country. Because these people ain't stupid. They'll go elsewhere.
Hopefully they will come together and fund their own dept. I can venmo them and I am sure others ar willing as well.
We’re all fucked !
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Definitely the king of stupid!🤣🤣🤣
BREAThTAKINGLY Stupid!
Right ⁉️ You eva in your life think we'd be here in 2025! 😄😄😄
Nope
Sadly, no. I never saw this coming. I cannot believe how stupid people could be to elect this idiot a 2nd time!!
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Yes, you did!
Honestly, everyone who voted for corrupt traitor trump needs to suffer under his rule. The rest of us should be exempt.😌
Yes, It’s hard to believe we are here. 2025 already feels like 5 years 😩
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Unfortunately Like(stupids) Attracts Like(more stupids) Look at his Cabinet especially Kennedy!
Perfect!
"It's hard to win an argument with an intelligent person, it's impossible to win an argument with a stupid person"
Well, if everyone with a brain leaves and allow all the crazy people to rule, what then????
Would you call a scientist who developed a viral strain that only attacked republikkkans a super-hero or a super-villian? Either way, it'd sure be fun to watch. Not kill 'em, just make 'em miserable as hell while it rearranged their effed-up brain wiring to emulate decent human beings. 🤔🤨 [==*==]
Great quote!
I've decided zero engagement and block is the best way forward on whatever platform I'm using, including real life
Heartbreaking! 💔
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Paraphrasing Alonzo Bodden: "You can't argue with stupid. Stupid doesn't get tired."
Yup.
but that leaves the rest of us deep in the weeds
Thank you Mr. Clemmons
This is why those who can are leaving America.
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Please God States hire and hold them for four years. Come to Maryland. We will let you do your jobs!
We are on our own, we can’t trust CDC or FDA. I think that checking with the professional groups like AMA etc is route to go.
Remember when RFK Jr. was running for President? His team (VP, tech boys) constantly came up with conspiracy theories on X. It was like they just couldn’t handle the truth and had to make up theories. That’s what happens when crazy, delusional and functionally stupid come together.
I'll gladly seek medical advice and Care from sources independent of the crooked compromised government!!
#NASYTRUMP
All the brilliant medical minds will be lured to other countries. We will never see a health research industry in the U.S. again. No sane person would take the risk of being uprooted by the next dictator.
but usually with a baseball bat ...
Old ER maxim "You can't fix stupid"
I think we forget that American society was founded on stupidity. It is only recently in the last century or so, that we really laid into the idea of pragmatic science. Before that, we had a President who died of infection despite disinfectant being around. This is just one example.
Stupid is destructive and very toxic…oh can also be easily manipulated by external forces. 😉
"Stupid is as stupid does."
Excellent quote.
Not only the CDC. Americas "brain drain" is expanding exponentially. Australia and other SANE countries are welcoming all American scientists.
Mark Twain had it all figured out a long time ago. I bet he wouldn't have voted for Trump or Trump's GOP either.
As I commented on a similar Zappa quote earlier, the man was a friggin' genius and extremely perceptive.
Agreed!! He was amazingly insightful and frank. He told it like he saw it & what he saw was prophetic. I miss his music too.
I miss him all around. I still remember how he walked in to testify before Congress in his very natty suit, carrying a briefcase, and looking as scholarly as any quantum physics professor - I think every other person present had to pick their jaw off the floor. Zappa was something else.
Excellent observation