he doesn't have a clue what she's talking about and could care less, (why am I sitting next to this intelligent lady)
he doesn't have a clue what she's talking about and could care less, (why am I sitting next to this intelligent lady)
Blonde at least.
Youngish too. Well much younger than him at least.
Trump’s thinking of rating her a 3 or something, to pass the time before she stops speaking.
In her 50s, no?
Late 40's. 48, I believe.
Yes. Just checked.
Bleached. Her natural hair color is a light brown shade.
His bronzer-overload makes it look like he was working in the coal mines earlier
She's boring him. He's thinking about sending nukes into a hurricane, or perhaps, about his dinner order
I would not trust anything Putin or Trump says.
Velveeta Perón is so out of his depth. He looks and acts like a fucking clown. What a moron.
Security guarantees being the most important topic. Trump needs to be pushed into these guarantees with the utmost force. Unlike Putin he will be held accountable by the American people if he does anything other than this.
And of course today, He’s doing something other than what he said. Did he not say America would provide security guarantees? I realize he was flip flopping like a fish yesterday but it did come out of his dirty mouth. Putin has a tape.
As with his deal-making in Afghanistan, I’m pretty sure he’s got an IBG-YBG sense of ethics, with regards to security guarantees.
Trump doesn’t seem to grasp anything they are saying
Trump's thought bubble, why is this blonde woman yakking at me?
So obvious!
"Does she look enough like Vanky for me to imagine raping her?"
Like the security agreement Ukraine got when they agreed to give up nuclear weapons in the 90’s? If Russia didn’t honour that agreement why believe them now?
Anyone else notice he shows them no respect by using their first names instead of addressing them with their title. This is not a casual dinner with friends.
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Oh how she's playing Trump nicely. 😆 Bring a woman where Devil can't.
I am glad she led with her support of Ukraine. I think she hates Trump AND Musk now.
Ffs… stop giving this unserious deranged man credibility for anything. He hasn’t done ANYTHING!!!
What happens if he pulls is usual stunt....agrees to it and changes his mind. Maybe that will be good news for us
looks like she is telling him how it is. I wonder what they said the repercussions will be if he doesn't follow and do as they say.
He is so fucking far out of his league it isn't even funny. He looks ridiculous trying to look like he is seriously considering anything they say.
I think it’s word salad to him. He has zero idea, zero thought, in that smooth brain.
Yep, just nodding along.
#Securityguarantees sure. More importantly how will they be enforced? Any failure to do so must provide Ukraine the upper hand. Something must be given to them or allowed instead. There must be consequences for Russia & any country if it reneges again. Assurances aren't enough. #Zelenskyy @msnbc.com
She speaks briefly to the demented toddler hoping to escape his diaper odor
Good for her. I did notice Trump wanted a blonde sitting next to him.
Does anyone believe Trump will live up to those security guarantees? His word is literally useless.
They'll have to get a Congressional vote on any agreement, no way anyone trusts him. A compensation payout schedule if the US refuses to honor that agreement too, will need to be included.
The U.S. guaranteed Ukrainian territorial sovereignty when they gave up nuclear arms. We can see how that worked out.
The European leaders spoke the truth. Glad they did not back down, but he will most likely ignore them and feed his own ego
Did he tell her she was a nasty woman?
My dream- peace is achieved with NATO art V security and the. The 7 European leaders receive the Nobel Peace prize, leaving the 🤡 off the list!
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Can't get much more bare knuckle with Trump than declaring oneself "on the side of Ukraine" and telling him the most important topic to discuss is "security guarantees to make sure it (a Russian invation) doesn't happen again."
Trumps way out of his league.
Bravo to PM Meloni. All of these leaders were polite to trump but brought up the legit concerns
"Your support for Peace" WHAT?!? Trump does not support peace, that is all talk, all BS!
Bravo
.. No War and No Putin .... But ... The Child Rapist just "Had To" save his Lover Putin from Covid ... www.npr.org/2024/10/08/n...
.. Really ??? Why are they even here ? The Child Rapist cannot be trusted ... AT ALL .. Everything Stinky touches dies .. The rest of the world needs to write off the USA completely.. And handle this themselves ...
Any security guarantees offered by the USA are worthless. We all know Trump and his cronies will go back on their word in a heartbeat.
Meloni is an intelligent, eloquent woman... the contrast with certified knucklehead Trump is stark, very stark
I see that the convicted felon made sure the female representative from Italy was seated next to him. I'd bet she enjoyed the smell.
For all her faults, she has been consistently right on Ukraine. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnel...
How bad did he smell?
They can’t trust them.
They do. And he is.
Yes!
Talking to Trump is like talking to a 2-year-old. Speak in words of less than 2 syllables and slowly. The man is dumb as a rock.
We need to give nuclear weapons to Ukraine..... it's game over at that point.
He’s such a baby! Peace this, peace that. It’s all so obvious.
“We are on the side of Ukraine.” So send Italian troops to join in the fight! Less talk. Fewer photo ops.
I lived in Italy for the better part of a decade. Fascism is different there. Here, it is much much worse. I don’t agree with Meloni on anything, but she’s a Trump whisperer.
Rapist trump is as untrustworthy as Putin, because Putin owns rapist trump.
This.
Right now, the European leaders want Trump out of the equation. He is doing more harm than good. He had his chance and came away with nothing.
Right now Trump's thinking about windmills.
The felon is the stupidest person in the room.
By far
He ain't listening. He's picturing her naked.
And Giorgia leans right mmmm
Trump kept trying to grab her between the legs
Surprised Trump wasn’t sleeping
It’s nothing but a dog and pony show! Nothing will come of this. But he succeeded in getting the media off of the Epstein files. Good job.
I feel sorry for Macron. He always picks the shortest straw!
What is Macron smiling at? 😄 That is delightful
You have to talk to him as if it were a kindergarten class lesson.
Unclear up until now given her own far right positions what her stance was regarding Ukraine but bringing up Article 5 in this context isn’t insignificant.
The left-right political spectrum is secondary in the context of preventing a second occupation of eastern Europe by Russians. Last time, 1945–1989, the US strongly countered Russia with nukes, boots on the ground and air force. Not this time! So Meloni would put defence of Europe ahead of all else.
Putin has allies in surprising places throughout the globe but if there’s a country w a tradition of a strong commitment to a Europe free from Russian control (even without a geopolitical presence in it) it would be the US, but here we are, w an argument to b made that US commitment lasted >1989.
Not by any means a T supporter but one thing he (and others) got right is Europe has, post-1945, over relied on the US military for its defense, specifically its nuclear capability, a stupidly dangerous strategy.
This "over-reliance on US military" is what Europeans thought was the moral thing to do, to prevent themselves, particularly Germany, from becoming powerful enough to start war again. Europeans disarmed to make themselves weak to prevent WW3. And the US did not want Europe to start war again either.
That lasted for about 5-10yrs in the US before there was pressure on Germany to take on greater responsibility. A 2% minimum spending threshold has been a political talking point since Reagan.
One thing I remember was discussed a lot from the 1970s onwards was that Germany and Japan benefited hugely economically from very low defense spending. There was quite a lot of envy of that, and some people thought it was unfair that they achieved huge economic growth because of their disarmament.
The reality, of course, was more complex. The Cold War necessitated powerful counterweights to the USSR (& China), which wouldn’t have happened without a concerted effort to create export markets for DE and JP.
It mustn't be forgotten that the words "Germany" and "Japan" were "dirty words" after WW2. Even today, people cannot think of Germany without also thinking of WW2. There were huge fears that Germany would start WW3. So I think the Germans can be forgiven for their fear of becoming powerful again.
Oh, I don’t think Germans ever fear being powerful. Not sees, maybe, powerful, no. It’s interesting to look into what the input immediately after WW2 was as to what 2 do. The Polish were (allegedly) in favor of eliminating all of them. Calmer heads prevailed. Also, Americans are v German by heritage
Thanks. That's something which I didn't know.
Women shouldn't have to sit by him unless his hands are zip-tied. Ugh.
The crybaby pedophile is probably wearing a wire so the man he worships and is owned by pootin can listen in. Greatest coward the world has ever known tiny hands doofus donnie
They need simple charts for Trump; the kind he can hold up and boast about.
I have to side with meloni🙈
The fat monoglot has such an obsession with attractive young blondes. And he seems to like the ones with sexy foreign accents most. So it must be very "conflicting" for him to have to discuss important issues of war and peace with someone he views as nothing more than a blonde bimbo.
We need to keep our eye on the ball. What is necessary to achieve peace.
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I don't trust her as far as I could throw her, and I'm pretty strong.
Rockstar!! Now show him you mean what you say, flip the table.
Even the fascists think we're too fascist.
Fuuuck. That's gotta be a hard pill to swallow. Solidarity with all the people-centred Americans.
Lol! True that! Good call…
I was just thinking this.
Love her.
The body language going on did not match the tenor of the meeting
These European leaders are showing democrats how to deal with Trump.? What do you think, can democrats figure out how to flatter with strategic impact?
Sure. If they are willing to have every other Democrat take them over the coals when they do it.
Granted, I'm throwing things at the wall at this point.
trmp is thinking about buying a new putter right about now.
He does not understand anything…
Watch Macron's face
Why bother with the orange toad.? He’s hopelessly crooked.
You cannot be with one side to make peace; a big no.
Trump is a pathological liar taking orders from Putin. No one in the room should believe anything he says.
And Meloni who just loves Trump has more balls than he does….
Watching a woman put Trump in his place never gets old.
Meloni has her flaws, but she has been infinitely better than I feared she would be on Ukraine.
Bot it would have been fun to have listened into their prep meeting. Are they on Microsoft Teams too like the rest of us during lame meetings IM’ing each other things like, how is it possible to be as much as a complete fucking moron as Trump?
He’s going to come unnn gluedddd at this (in his mind) unfuckable woman telling him what to do. Oh shit. Hide the ketchup.
Right?? I had the exact same thought. I'm pretty sure he's thinking, the nerve of this woman. Who the hell does she think she is? Doesn't she know who I am?
Trump: “I explain to people. People don’t explain to me.”
EXACTLY 💯
Is Macron containing a laugh?
Sure looks that way 😹
He looks like Mickey Mouse sitting at the lunch table of the Manhattan Project. He’s way, way, way out of his depth/league. It’s like one of those CM Coolidge paintings but instead of dogs it’s lowly cockroach in a Regal Rooster ball.
Can't stand her, love the way she takes no shit from trump. Wish she'd have done the eye roll again.
Like they worked so well the first time. If Ukraine is smart they’ll ask for the nukes the gave up back.
Funny she is even there. She was convicted in Italy and should actually be in prison. But yeah, inviting convicted criminals seems a thing for the convicted felon.
Giorgia Meloni is not formally accused in a judicial proceeding at this time, but she has been under investigation in connection with the release of Libyan police chief Osama Al-Masri, wanted by the International Criminal Court (ICC).
Yeah that is just her latest case. She is an extreme right wing nutbag. She was convicted I think 1,5 year ago, in relation to campaign money fraud or something. But I can't find anything about it anywhere anymore. Which is weird.
Trump - "yeah, OK, but why aren't we talking about me?"
Once again a women cutting to the quick of the matter. If we guaranteed security either as a member of NATO or other format they wouldn’t invade again
Go Italia
That clip ended too soon. After Meloni turned off her mike, she leaned back, folded her arms across her chest and gave the most evilest scowl. She can't stand Trump and having to fawn over him is driving her crazy. You go girl!!
Don't heap to much praise on Meloni, she's a fascist just like Trump.
They truly like her in Italy/ she has an amazing life story I respect her
Weird to have respect for a fascist, but you do you.
Italy feels way more like a democracy that the US
You been to Italy recently? Tightening controls on gender affirming care without outright banning, migrant detention and processing centers offshore, free speech violations, high rates of gender-based violence against women, race-based discrimination, restricting the right to peaceful assembly...
Yes- I live there part time- The people have been kinder than a lot of other countries- mainly because of Pope Francis- I am sure that will continue with Leo. When were you there
Why ever would have fascist regime not take any issue with a blonde haired, blue-eyed white woman...🤔
I know, but the fact that she doesn't like him says a lot.
Mussolini wasn't a huge fan of Hitler either.
I don't think Meloni would team up with Trump.
Mussolini made a deal to avoid Germany invading italy.
Yes he did. In the end, it didn't help. Do you think Meloni would make a deal with Trump to keep Russia from invading Italy?
No but I'm fairly certain she'd make it deal with Putin to keep the United States out of Italy.
Why does she bother helping Ukraine then? I highly doubt we'll ever invade Italy, unless it's to free them from an invasion from another country.
Maybe she is “fascist light”?
Because politics is performative, she loses nothing by supporting Ukraine
when he praised his trade deal in response to comments about the kidnapped Ukrainian children she looked at him with a "what an asshole" smile
Trump has no idea what she’s talking about. Dude is as dumb as a rock.
His BODY language when he has to listen to an educated STRONG woman is SO telling. His orange traitorous dry skin crawls. I love it.
I give you a small man who doesnt like being scolded especially when it goes against everything his master wont support and truly puts him in a bind. Hate it for him and on both counts!!!
Make sure the MAGA stupidity doesn't happen again!!!! Vote a BLUE WAVE so resounding it cannot be stopped!
Pedofuhrer does not understand this he only wants what Russia wants
She has been strong on Ukraine and Palestine. She's a tight winger.
Trump è ovviamente compromesso da Putin… Sembrava così debole e patetico, con le borse sotto gli occhi, continuando a parlare di nulla. L’America è nei guai seri.
Si. Yes we are.
I would hope the people of Europe would be on the side of respect for national sovereignty. As Ukraine goes, so goes much of Eastern Europe eventually.
She told him them facts!!!
She is a good looking blond, Trump hasn't heard a word she's said.
That was the North Korean portion of the program. Praise for dear leader no matter how fraudulent.
bsky.app/profile/rpsa...
He doesn’t have any efforts toward fucking peace. I’m sick to death of the horseshit games.