Yes. In re Neagle, 135 US 1 (1890). The Supreme Court decided federal officers were immune from state prosecution for actions in their official capacity.
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Neagle is distinguishable in many ways. It’s a defense of others case where Fed Neagle was protecting another Fed then charged with a state crime (murder). Let them cite it. Criminal acts while racially profiling to enforce immigration law isn’t the ofc. biz of US govt.
aug 27, 2025, 4:11 am • 2 0 • view
This would clearly not be an official capacity claim. Racial profiling of Hispanics systematically is not within scope of employment. Charge them, indict them and let them claim racial profiling as their defense. They have no other. Let them reveal their tactics. Go on. Have at it. Put them on D
aug 27, 2025, 3:55 am • 0 0 • view
What if the actions are unlawful?
aug 27, 2025, 3:15 am • 0 0 • view
That they are acting on behalf of the federal government immunizes them from state law. And whether they are so acting is a question for federal courts who except in egregious cases are going to defer to the executive branch.
aug 27, 2025, 3:23 am • 0 0 • view
and previous supreme courts would've found that kilmar abrego garcia should be home with his family right now. we've all seen the feds flagrantly break the law over and over again since january. why can't philly do the same???
aug 27, 2025, 1:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Which is why it's important that federal agents clearly identify themselves. Otherwise any thug can put on a mask and kidnap people while claiming to be ICE. If you have no way of knowing if someone is a federal agent there's no reason to assume it.
aug 27, 2025, 8:02 am • 0 0 • view
Uh huh. See: “I was just following orders” defense, Nuremberg Trials. Constitutional protection of the Supremacy Clause only applies if the officer's actions were within the scope of their LAWFUL federal duties.
aug 27, 2025, 3:44 pm • 0 0 • view
Krasner is making it clear which actions aren’t going to be considered an official capacity. The definition can be further adjudicated after the harms are stopped.
aug 27, 2025, 1:46 am • 50 3 • view
He isn't relevant to that decision. It is entirely up to the federal government, possibly lightly constrained by federal courts in really egregious cases.
aug 27, 2025, 1:54 am • 1 1 • view
This, btw and fyi, is part of the massive systemic breakdown and invitation to corruption y'all should really see about fixing.
aug 27, 2025, 9:45 am • 0 0 • view
According to you the Nazi soldiers were innocents ?!?? The excuse “I was only following orders didn’t work in Norimberga .” If a federal official or soldier is following illegal orders goes to jail.
aug 27, 2025, 3:29 am • 2 0 • view
Did it seem like I was opening a dialogue?
aug 27, 2025, 1:56 am • 26 0 • view
I am all for arresting ICE and giving them the exact same level of care and respect that they have given Brown bodies. Alligator Alcatraz still has a few days open.
aug 27, 2025, 2:05 am • 7 0 • view
The wild thing to me is these are all enforcement of civil offenses. We are disappearing, maiming, and ruining people over the legs equivalent of ‘obstructing traffic’. Any deterrent to criminal violence done under color of our flag is going to come from localities, blue cities and states.
aug 27, 2025, 2:31 am • 12 0 • view
Any LEO with bodycam evidence of an unprovoked assault by ICE who fails to affect an arrest should be held to account
aug 27, 2025, 2:55 pm • 2 0 • view
I think we can leave the citizens crimes to the people for a minute, to address the pedophiles in the government. When the crimes of the rich have been given consequences, the citizens "offenses" will automatically end. #StolenLand #TeleaseTheEpsteinFiles
aug 27, 2025, 3:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Unfortunately, in this country abuse in any form isn't believed without the details. And sometimes even the details aren't enough, depending upon how powerful the accused are. As though the abuse didn't have a lot to do with them becoming so powerful
aug 27, 2025, 3:31 pm • 0 0 • view
If we all #believethewomen, the powerful will no longer have the power. It will be the People's Country. #ReleaseTheEpstsinFiles
aug 27, 2025, 3:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, I think I'll trust Larry Krassner's knowledge of the law over an online bear.
aug 27, 2025, 9:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Obviously.
aug 27, 2025, 2:08 am • 0 0 • view
In that case J20, CopCity, KXL, hell even j6 have shown prosecutors have tremendous power to incarcerate, detain, and ruin individuals for years over a case that is ultimately dismissed. I will trust a practicing prosecutor to know their remit better than 2 animal pfps on a web forum.
aug 27, 2025, 2:28 am • 9 0 • view
Then you might note that Krasner hasn't actually brought a single one of these cases.
aug 27, 2025, 2:35 am • 0 0 • view
Yeah drives me nuts. You lawyers sure like to treat the law as some mathematical notation that proves you have to let the agents boot in your neighbors face. Because Bivins or some cockamamie opinion some civic priest farted out.
aug 27, 2025, 2:48 am • 5 0 • view
This is just also bad analysis They can be arrested and held, and then the courts have to decide if they were acting within the scope of their duties. Not the "federal government" Also, even if they eventually get off the charges, stopping them and potentially arresting them is more important
aug 27, 2025, 3:10 am • 11 0 • view
They would identify themselves as federal employees on duty and the local police would not arrest them. They cannot legally do so and would not attempt it.
aug 27, 2025, 3:15 am • 2 0 • view
They literally can arrest federal employees who are committing crimes, on duty or not
aug 27, 2025, 3:15 am • 7 0 • view
Forcing them to actually identify themselves would already be a huge step forward. I bet many of these goons aren't even formally feds.
aug 27, 2025, 5:34 am • 1 0 • view
any half decent LEO would absolutely arrest even their own partner were they publicly behaving in an obviously illegal manner
aug 27, 2025, 2:49 pm • 1 0 • view
Federal supremacy is very deeply entrenched in our system.
aug 27, 2025, 2:52 am • 0 0 • view
So were lots of other principles and yet, here we are
aug 27, 2025, 3:07 am • 2 0 • view