Kamala pledged to continue the genocide. That’s not an aesthetic choice. Not getting on your raft if it’s going to be used to kill children. You’re too beholden to money to ask why the raft could maybe not kill kids, why a kid killing raft would be the only choice available. Fuck y’all’s privilege.
Citation needed.
www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/u... pledged she would pick up where Biden left off. That would be sending 2 ton bombs to people using them in densely populated refugee camps.
Do you even read? You clearly have an active imagination.
interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/isr... I read plenty.
Clearly not, as you accepted some "journalists" opinion as fact & tried to use it to support your claim. Obvious you didn't read much else & quite frankly, as I've told others equally in their feelings as you, if you were following so closely & were so politically astute, you'd have had to admit..
..she was far and away more likely to exert pressure to end things. Very clear that a return of hostages & ceasefire were her immediate goals & she expressed deep concern for Netanyahu's over-reaction. Your only other bet was Trump & nothing could have been more obviously against your own goals.
The opinion piece, if I recall correctly cited the CNN interview where she said as much. I figured the synopsis would be better than sending the video, but ok. Here. m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_3...
Fascinating that you prefer to ignore the last crucial 11 seconds of that piece. Perhaps you should just admit to yourself that confirmation bias is difficult for you to overcome & causes your judgment impairment.
My apologies. 15 seconds. From :55
This is like arguing with a toddler. The larger context is that “we’ve got to get a deal done” ignores all leverage that she had to threaten to withhold offensive weaponry!
Indeed. I wish you'd grow up. Putting aside the whole issue of elections being about maintaining constituencies & "Israel having a right to defend itself" being standard fare for the last 80yrs,tell me how you hear "how it does so, matters" along with the sentence you quoted.
This is happening because people wanted perfect dem candidate as alternative to white supremacy: Cities led by Black women are the first targets of Trump’s political power grab
“Hey could your candidate maybe stop giving our massive bombs to people using them to slaughter innocents” “Oh now you want THE PERFECT dem candidate huh???”
You mean the gop has improved life in Palestine and Hamas is no longer leading the government.
Your reading comprehension needs work. Your previous point was on “perfect candidates”. Try addressing previous points or you get muted.
Rick Americans are getting stomped by white supremacists because some people wanted to show the Dems.
The problem is people thought risking a white supremacist leading federal government was more important than considering all the Americans who suffer the most due to systemic racism and disenfranchisement.
The US has an anti vaxxer leading public health.
I had to block Rick
Yeah Rick would rather hold dems to all the standards while letting Republicans coast.
And that is horrible. And that’s a good reason for democratic leadership to do some soul searching about how to win instead of blaming voters.
What soul searching has to happen to get white people to stop voting for white supremacy sadism?
Rick, white supremacy was on the ballot and white voters were fine with it. And somehow wars in Ukraine and Palestine are still happening. Success!
You don’t get it. You’re still too busy playing identity politics to see it. Neither candidate was going to end those wars. One candidate allllllmost seemed like they could be pressured. I’m not white. My people are being snatched and grabbed and being sold into gulags. This isn’t abstract for me.
Why don’t you think Russians are white? I’d bet you check that white box when the police show up.
What the fuck are you saying? You think I’m Russian? I grew up being called W*tback S*ic B*aner And any slur you can imagine. Because I’m Latino. So thank you for the melanated solidarity, asshole.
There is no solidarity attached to the chemical that makes me Black. I see that in the voting booth. The people who showed solidarity with me were Jews. Latinos voted Trump because they felt my rights came too quickly
They weren’t sent to gulags. Do you know the words you use have meanings?
Yes, they were sent to gulags. Remote torture prisons with labor components. Words do have meanings, and my use of the word gulag does not mean that I’m Soviet. Still waiting for my apology, you fucking solidarity-breaking asshole.
Again you are not ever were or ever will be my ally or friend.
Outside of describing a normal American prison where were Latinos sent to labor concentration torture camps?
I do get it People are fine with a white supremacist in the White House. They would rather have a racist they are afraid to protest than any Dem candidate.
The reality is some people will be forever fine with sleazy white supremacists leading US government as long as they get to spite Democrats.
This include basically every single person on the left.
I hope the energy they put towards depressing Dem voter turnout in 2024 will be equal to the energy of them rolling up on trump.
I know, I just can’t stand lying assholes like Rick.
Understand.
I cannot express enough how not ok I am with it. I’m brown, the white supremacists are snatching my fucking family. And it’s insipid “we’d be at brunch if Kamala won” bullshit like you’ve been slinging that got us here. Zero self reflection.
Because people like you lied about her and voted against her. Classic self own. Unfortunately, they’re not too rare these days.
Rick wanted the current outcome because he got to show the Dems that its better to have a white supremacist creep leading America off a cliff.
Oh no a forceful case for ceasefire! words always stop bombs! Anyways keep sending Israel bombs
Well done! “Things we were doing and talking about in 2017 that were taboo, they’re no longer taboo — they’re mainstream now… Honestly, what do we have to complain about these days?” —Enrique Tarrio of the Proud Boys www.bostonglobe.com/2025/08/23/n...
No, policies do and that's why she needed to be elected to implement her words but instead Trump was elected to implement his words because you refused to believe her words and ignored his words.
Why is it the “Free Palestine” people *always* voted for the guy who explicitly said he would never do that.
psy-ops
This? Yeh. It’s a psy-op to claim that pro Palestinians voted for Trump en masse. This further divides the democratic base. You’re probably talking to a mossad agent right there.
Jesus Christ. There were two choices - maintaining our democratic republic with opportunities to improve it, preserve/protect environment, uplift people and a fucking fascist. The majority of my fellow white people chose the fucking fascist. Donald could only be pressured into profit for HIMSELF.
Then you should yell at the people who voted for that and leave the rest of us alone.
Thank you! This is getting tiresome, they need to take this shit to their white family and friends either voted for this or sat their ass at home.
This original post that kicked off this thread was whining about the people didn’t vote for the nice black lady doing the genocide.
Oh well pookie - sorry you fell for propaganda🤷♀️
How’s Palestine doing? Did you save it? Are you there rebuilding houses? Or, did your boi trump fast track the destruction of Palestine and join Netanyahu to bomb Iran?
Is Palestine free? Or did you just let Bibi’s boo win?
"iDeNtItY PoLiTiCs" are civil rights republican think tanks came up with that rebrand in the 90s to give racist paternalist chuds cover to strip away basic civil rights protections but you claim WE don't get it?? Bruh lol you sided with the enemy trying to snatch your ppl w that sh*t
Saying you're not white is identity politics.
“Identity politics is when people say they’re not white”
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Identity politics is identifying yourself as a member of a group with common bonds. Gay, straight, black, white, not white, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, it's all in there. We all belong to our own tribes.
And right now white identity politics has ensured America has an anti vaxxer leading public health, black and brown communities be terrorized for breathing, a supreme court that treats rule of law like toilet paper.
Bruh “Identity politics is identifying yourself as a member of a group…” Bruhhhhhhhhhh
"a tendency for people of a particular religion, ethnic group, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances"
And another thing. People kill me trying to separate identity politics from Free Palestine. One of the primary talking points of the movement was about protecting "brown people." Such utterly BS. People suppressing the Harris vote were setting up "brown people" domestically to be terrorized.
The entire idiocy is that Americans got bamboozled into making Gaza the issue that swung the election by people that don't care if America burns to the ground. In fact, they'd prefer that. And I'm not talking about Palestinians. They wanted Harris. share.google/wUqxqK5bF8rP...
We all knew this was going to happen if Trump and a Republican legislature were voted in. Rather than vote for who you say “alllllmost seemed” like they could be pressured, you chose the man who’s being run by outright fascists. A chance vs. no chance. It absolutely is abstract for you.
Why do you keep thinking that leftists voted for Trump. What is this insanity
I didn’t say that you voted for him.
You literally got the guy who told us he was going to do that elected and now you’re crying about it. That’s really rich. This is all on you, you disgusting piece of sht
Just lying to yourself. Face it. There’s plenty of maga men in my family, you’re just like them. You think you’re superior to most other people morally and intellectually.
Question: why do you guys primarily protest at Democratic town halls? The ONLY instance I have found that it wasn’t the case was once for Josh Hawley. The Democrats are the minority now, make it make sense.
1) who is “you guys” 2) Probably because we live in blue states so we are holding our own representatives accountable? 3) have you never met a leftist from the Carolinas or Texas?
You guys are these guys: gazettetimes.com/news/local/g... So what you’re saying is that there are no leftists in red states? Really??? These guys don’t exist? www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston... These guys don’t exist either? www.dailytarheel.com/article/2024...
Uh, I’m saying leftists in red states exist, but you’re usually only seeing “us” as in televised large scale interruptions in blue states because that’s where there’s more of us. Take a beat Sue. What science did you study?
www.dailykos.com/stories/2024...
You caught him SO hard on that one. 🤣 They weren't expecting you to be a science teacher.
I am a retired high school science teacher if you really want to know- here’s another question-if you guys really want Peace in the region, why doesn’t the movement support Standing Togethe (who is responsible for helping aid get through to Gaza & one of the major Peace organizations in the region)?
Great, I was a biochemist and I did really want to know. Sounds like BDS made a principled choice not to support it for these reasons: bdsmovement.net/standing-tog...
Why are you okay with a Trump presidency? Seems like you are the privileged one
Yeah, dipshit. We’re just out here fighting ice snatch and grabs on the daily because we like Trump. How was brunch this morning?
Did you vote for Kamala? If not you are directly responsible for the snatch and grabs
I’m in a solidly blue state, and that’s not how the electoral college works. And no, Trump is directly responsible for the snatch and grabs. How are you fighting ice, Andrew? By voting??? By voting for people who increased their funding?
A) she did not. B) trump openly pledged to commit ethnic genocide in both the us & abroad & threatened to start several wars. C) your man Trump is also a big fat orange pedo openly protecting his fellow chums.
C) yeah orange man bad. Again, when someone is punching you in the gut and says “the other guy is worse because they’d be punching you in the face instead” you really have to wonder if there aren’t levers of power you can be pulling to not be punched at all.
B) no shit. But “the other guy is worse” presupposes that she was entitled to votes because the alternative was worse. And that’s why we have a system where with a dem supermajority we couldn’t even codify Roe. All dems could do was enable exactly the police state you see now.
A) Kamala over and over said she would not meaningfully deviate from Biden’s plan on Israel. I expect maga to live in alternate reality but not democrats. How are you this wrong this late in the endgame www.timesofisrael.com/kamala-harri...
Security aid is a lot better than giving the Israeli government carte Blanche to openly destroy Gaza, raze it to ground, & ethnic cleanse millions of people. Look, if this was actually important to you lot, how come the American left has been utterly silent on Gaza?
Where are all the riots & destruction of property you lot felt was so important to do under Biden? Where are all the tick tocks? Crickets in the wind. You got played by cosplay lefties who used the plight of Palestinians to enrich themselves & now they’ve buggered off, ya’ll just sat doing nothing
You mean protests? Protests still happen more or less constantly, but the media cares less because it’s not an election year. Also, protest strategies change when your leaders are immune to pressure by virtue of having a base with no conscience.
There are still sane people on the left who don’t sympathize with Hamas and don’t see Hamas as Palestine liberation. That’s why. The reality is that if you care about Gazans you want Hamas gone.
Such propaganda. Would you have felt the same about the French resistance under occupation? The reality is, if you care about liberation of oppressed people, you don’t criticize their choice to engage in armed resistance.
The French resistance didn’t feel the need to deliberately kill kids to raise funds… If lot you were in charge in WW2 you’d be siding with the Nazis. You’d hate the French resistance. ‘Why won’t the mean Europeans let Hitler win?’
Yeah dude, you’re not a sane person. I’m fighting against the people with the concentration camps. You’re so heavily propagandized that you believe the side killing kids with snipers is the oppressed side.
You campaigned for the person who wants to ethnic cleanse Palestinians so he can profit from Gazan real estate & who wants to bring concentration camps back to America. You’re so propagandised you believed the guy feeding kids in Gaza was evil but not the one who openly wants them all dead.
The French resistance wanted to rid France of Nazis and rebuild France. Hamas doesn’t want to rebuild Gaza and free Gaza. Hamas wants to exterminate Jews and destroy. Hamas is not a national liberation movement. It is a fanatical movement willing to sacrifice its own citizens for hate
Check out articles 7 and 8 of their charter. They say it themselves.
Numbfucks like Rick went around screeching about "gEnOcIdE!!1!" & helped get trump in office. Now, Bibi is free to make Gaza into 'Billionaireland' just like Kush said they would LONG before the election, and & Rick HELPED THEM. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024...
Kamala did no such thing. She constantly showed concern about Gaza. Trump is a cheerleader for Netanyahu. How is that working out?
Her "concern" was to tell protesters to shut up and be quiet. You dont get to rewrite history. People were begging dems to listen and got told to pound sand but yeah your so fucking concerned.
“She showed concern for Gaza” ≠ “taking a stance on Gaza” She took the Biden stance, which was to continue funding and arming a nation engaging genocide. Didn’t exactly win her any favors, that.
Honestly, don’t even bother with the “genocide” theatrics crew. They’re going to die on the hill of their bad choice. They’re like MAGA, willful idiots who will never admit they made a mistake 🤷🏽♀️
True. My response is for people who may be persuadable. I hope they still exist.
Appreciated. But seriously, fuck that ignorant dipshit.
I wish you were persuadable. The genocide didn’t have to continue. The primary didn’t have to be closed, The unelectable cop, beholden to institutional power didn’t have to be the choice. The dems failed to advance a candidate worth voting for, and you’re still not thinking critically about why.
What kind of color you prefer for that raft?
I prefer that the raft not be red, painted with the blood and bodies of 19,000 dead children. www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/202... Obviously this is just wayyyyyyy too picky
That was actually helped by your decision! You contributed to increase the hardship of the Palestinian ppl. By refusing Biden mediation, Netnyahu manipulated you and others to abstain. By radicalizing, you helped spread antiliberal propaganda on FOX & other right wing media and spook the undecided.
absolutely ghoulish take. Log off and go find a church, get right with god or your soul or something. There’s something deeply broken in you to act like pressuring her not to kill kids is the real reason those kids died, and not the blue no matter who rhetoric that built the situation. Log off.
I'm an atheist. Define soul. I'm rational and experienced. Look at my feed of replies and reposts regarding the Palestinian genocide. You're not rational, and we all pay the consequences. Palestinians and Americans alike. Well done.
Well, now you get your wish. Continued genocide around the world, now with ethnic cleansing here at home! Congratulations, you've expanded the horror! Well fucking done.
My post was about Dems maybe thinking critically about how to improve. Youre so resistant to that that you’re using the struggle of marginalized people as a cudgel and making me into an imaginary trump supporter just to have someone to be mad at. Seek therapy.
Oh no, it's not imaginary at all. You *are* a Trump supporter. Your inaction in November lead to this regime. You said, "oh, the Dems didn't give us a better candidate, so I'd rather burn it all to the ground." Congratulations, you're going to get what you voted for.
The genocide you claim to care so deeply about... What have you *done* to stop it? Not a fucking thing. Stop acting all sanctimonious and that your lack of action was actually a noble thing to do. Trump wants Gaza to become a luxury resort that doesn't have any of the current inhabitants, good job.
Yep, that's me in another thread (that has either been deleted or I've been blocked from). What's your point?
To be this ignorant is a choice. Now fuck all the way and when you get there keep fucking off. Just join MAGA already 🙄
Calling people MAGA for demanding their politicians condemn genocide and refusing to vote for ones who won’t, is a borderline fascist take.
Rage somewhere else 🙄
Okay fascist 👍🏼
Comfortable, cop loving fans of negative peace and brunch above all - make them the tiniest bit mad and watch them spew authoritarianism. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
These people claim to be anti-racist and all, but think Palestinian Americans have no right to demand some representation from candidates. If a candidate decides your issues don’t matter, they shouldn’t expect your vote.
🤡But but but what if the other guy is worse for me personally? I mean, sucks they don’t represent your interests but we are entitled to your votes 🤡
www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/sh... this is why i have a ✍️ for blue maga.
Yeah starving kids but someone more oppressed shows their concern and this is how you act? Just acting like the white supremacists do. Wtf
the same could be said about those that, simply because there wasn't an official investigation launched, have forgotten the regime all but directly admitted several times they stole the election. continuing to try and divide non maga is a strategy I'll never understand.
Exactly! In this scenario I was more irritated with the trying to reason with the stupid people. They all died. After the second time asking I would have gotten on the raft. I don’t argue with these people anymore. My freedom is at stake.
Same girl! Same!
You don't think "supporting genocide" was a mistake?
Why the quotation marks
Genocide "theatrics"? So you're just cool with wiping out populations and talking about it as just a form of entertainment to you?
Go rage somewhere else 🙄
If you don't want to be raged at, don't post racist shit
She's mad someone else took the attention away from her and her cause for 10 seconds. I mean how could anyone possibly have it worse that this woman who has it worse than kids starving to death and their homes being blown to bits along with their families...
Showing “concern” is exactly why Bibi could stomp out an entire people. We demanded meaningful action, pledges to change funding strategy. She pledgged to keep funding israel. www.timesofisrael.com/kamala-harri...
Don’t be ignant your whole life.
Instead the USAID cuts are going to kill millions of children, more children are being killed in Gaza, Medicaid cuts will kill hundreds more children, and who knows how many more children will be killed by vaccine cuts. Oh, and Harris didn't pledge to continue genocide. You can fuck right off.
www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/u... what does pledge to pick up where Biden left off mean to you
That she would continue to negotiate a ceasefire and Israel has a right to defend itself. You talk about privilege but you were ok with genocided the rest of the world to punish Dems who were sufficiently anti Israel. Like I said, you can fuck right off.
Continue to negotiate a ceasefire while GIFTING Israel American made bombs. Cmon, you think Biden was negotiating a cessefire? www.nytimes.com/2024/06/22/o...
The aid delivered to Israel is for their iron dome since every country in the region wants to eliminate them. Look, do what you have to do to sleep at night, but because of assholes like you Gaza is worse off along with the rest of the world. Children are dying due to USAID cuts and you don't care.
Iron dome doesn’t use two ton bombs, you gotta try harder than that, dingus
Biden withheld shipments of heavy bombs. “The Biden administration withheld shipments of some heavy bombs from Israel, given concerns over the Israeli incursion into south Gaza’s Rafah in the spring, but part of that shipment has since been released.” www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-sa...
Honestly if that was your family in that list would you be convinced they did what they could? Literally zero compassion from you ghouls. Fix your heart.
The choice was Harris or Trump. Because of Trump, millions will die due to aid cuts, thousands to Medicaid cuts, unknown due to vaccine cuts, & more killed in Gaza. I am not the ghoul here. Allowing Trump to win will kill millions. That’s what you chose.
No, Kamala chose not to step back from hardline neoliberalism and Zionism. That’s why she didn’t earn votes. Also, you didn’t answer. Would YOU be convinced if that was YOUR family getting killed?
Oh they didn’t send quite as many as they originally promised. One time. Good enforcement of crossing the red line. I’m convinced they did everything everything they could interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/isr...
Well Trump will now allow Israel to have whatever they want. Bibi wanted Trump and you helped Bibi get what he wants. Congrats.
Like Trump was the best alternative for Gaza... Right. Brainfucked.
Yeah and you’ve saved so many lives by not voting for her… right?.. RIGHT?!
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Hi, Rick. Tell me what would happen to the nation of Israel if the US withdrew all military & economic support.
Their robust economy would hav to start paying fo their massive military operations instead of giving them all free healthcare.
I'll take "Things that never fucking happened" for $1000...
😁😁😁 ding dong.. the meme… I just spit up my coffee laughing 😁…. And it was expensive.
There is no one more privileged than someone who reaps the benefits of being a citizen of the world's biggest war machine, yet refuses to cast a vote to steer it in a less harmful direction, due to the misbegotten belief that somehow keeps their hands clean instead of just making them even bloodier.
If you don’t understand that politicians serve the people and change policies based on what the people demand, you’ve got no place in any sort of discussion on principle or privilege.
