US Vice President JD Vance yesterday night suggested that Donald Trump's administration could reconsider its military presence in Germany, tying continued American defense commitments to Berlin’s stance on free speech.
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Given the US now have a fascist government allied with fascist Russia, we'd probably be safer without US troops on our territory.
feb 21, 2025, 6:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Have you seen how President Musk removed community notes on tweets of his because they call out his lies? Did you see that Musk has been threatening journalists with jail because he doesn't like what they are saying? What Vance doesn't like is that Europe doesn't allow them to lie with impunity.
feb 21, 2025, 2:00 pm • 12 0 • view
USA just leave we don’t need you.
feb 21, 2025, 1:42 pm • 6 0 • view
"If you won't allow Nazis to be Nazis we'll stop defending you". Kinda sounds like a deal to me.
feb 21, 2025, 1:38 pm • 39 0 • view
Do it LOL... Close the bases and move back to the US
feb 22, 2025, 1:45 am • 0 0 • view
close the door when leaving
feb 21, 2025, 10:48 pm • 3 0 • view
Europe needs to completely block Musk's propaganda network and stand squarely against this mafia intimidation bullshit.
feb 21, 2025, 1:39 pm • 44 1 • view
Free speech in Saudi Arabia must be top-notch?
feb 21, 2025, 7:46 pm • 5 0 • view
US go home
feb 21, 2025, 1:36 pm • 20 1 • view
And Putin too
feb 21, 2025, 1:42 pm • 8 1 • view
Ironic that the formerly great nation that helped Europe defeat the Nazis in WW2, is now actively helping them on the way back.
feb 21, 2025, 1:46 pm • 11 0 • view
Vance also deliberately (or due to lack of education) ignores the reason why certain types of racial or antisemitic hate speech are forbidden under German law. Same as you can’t do the Hitler Salute. Influenced by the allies, the 1949 constitution was designed with a goal of “Never Again”.
feb 21, 2025, 6:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Tell Germany to replace with Canadian troops and any other friendlies outside of Europe.
feb 21, 2025, 1:37 pm • 7 0 • view
X, Meta out of Europe.
feb 22, 2025, 8:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Europe, grow fast and kick in the ass these new american mafia man.
feb 21, 2025, 5:57 pm • 0 0 • view
Russia was held back by Ukraine for all this time. All of Europe, Canada, and other allies can do the same with the US and Russia. If you are going to fight back, there isn't a better time. Russia is weak.
feb 21, 2025, 2:35 pm • 3 0 • view
Off you fuck then
feb 22, 2025, 9:37 am • 1 0 • view
US presence in Germany was designed to keep Germany from needing to militarize to the dangerous level. And since 1990s US presence in Germany has much more to do with enabling US global deployments rather than defending Germany. Buh bye.
feb 21, 2025, 2:04 pm • 4 0 • view
Do it.
feb 21, 2025, 1:46 pm • 0 0 • view
I don’t think that’s the threat he thinks it is, America has become an intolerable, ignorant blowhard that is quickly wearing out its welcome
feb 21, 2025, 2:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Just make sure they also close Ramstein AFB, you don't get to cherry pick if you throw mutual benefit to the wind.
feb 21, 2025, 1:41 pm • 7 1 • view
Europe, can you PLEASE do EVERYTHING you can to move away from relying on America? Find better trading partners and encourage Canada to join the EU too.
feb 21, 2025, 1:37 pm • 20 0 • view
We want them to do it (I mean many citizens) but it's quite slow everything in the EU.
feb 21, 2025, 8:28 pm • 0 0 • view
C’est de Gaulle qui avait raison. Ils ne sont pas fiable. Autant ils vous apporter du bonheur, autant ils peuvent vous lâcher au plus mauvais moment. Mister Jekyll et M. Hyde!
feb 26, 2025, 5:03 am • 0 0 • view
It was de Gaulle who was right. They are not reliable. As much as they bring you happiness, they can let you go at the worst time. Mr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde!
feb 26, 2025, 5:03 am • 0 0 • view
Go fry asparagus, JD.
feb 22, 2025, 10:33 pm • 2 0 • view
That might be safer if the U.S. military is going to be pro-Nazism
feb 21, 2025, 1:51 pm • 2 0 • view
Good riddance! Auf Nimmerwiedersehen!
feb 21, 2025, 1:45 pm • 2 0 • view
He speaks about "real facts", which is one of the biggest lies of all times We need to wake up and realize that nobody can be totally objective Our brains perceive different things from the same scene based on our past, our desires, etc. Especially the brains of people like Trump, Musk, Vance...
feb 22, 2025, 12:34 pm • 0 0 • view
... and all the people who is not aware of that or don't want to do anything about it
feb 22, 2025, 12:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Could it be that Trump is scaring voters of other countries, looking to have ally governments outside the US that could support his attempt to be reelected in 2028 despite the Constitution? If that goes wrong, he will remove the troops to save money, because he doesn't like the governments
feb 22, 2025, 12:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Let him. Germany is done with Fascism and that is now what the US represents.
feb 21, 2025, 1:48 pm • 1 0 • view
Need to start calling the bluffs
feb 21, 2025, 1:45 pm • 4 0 • view
I mean both Putin's and the current Fu*K*ng American Administration
feb 21, 2025, 1:58 pm • 4 0 • view
I admit that it took me a few months to realize the escalation threats were part of the play, but it's at least 2 and a half year now that I keep repeating we should've declared No Fly Zone and send NATO Troops to protect the borders of Ucraine.
feb 21, 2025, 2:41 pm • 0 0 • view
We forgot the history of the 20th century and we've become anesthetized by the comforts of modernity. We have chosen dishonor. Let's see what we're going to get this time around.
feb 21, 2025, 2:46 pm • 2 0 • view
This sick freak steals our precious time.
feb 21, 2025, 1:46 pm • 1 0 • view
Ok, then all US troops would have to leave the US immediately.
feb 21, 2025, 1:44 pm • 0 0 • view
Actually it's a good option to European military industries.
feb 21, 2025, 8:25 pm • 2 0 • view
maybe Europe should restrict the use of X to identified natural persons only. (Identification done by governements and paid by Musk)
feb 21, 2025, 4:47 pm • 0 0 • view
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feb 21, 2025, 2:22 pm • 7 0 • view
They should go back and look at why NATO was founded, in the words of the first secretary "the purpose of the Alliance was to keep America in, Russia out, and the Germans down". If you leave Europe the entire continent will rearm and without a tight bond could wield that power even against the US
feb 22, 2025, 2:52 am • 0 0 • view
He knows that Germany is going to take action against Musk and Twitter after the elections, and they are trying to blackmail the Germans now. Pathetic.
feb 21, 2025, 2:23 pm • 2 0 • view
Please do and whilst your at it, take your nuclear weapons out of Scotland!
feb 21, 2025, 4:31 pm • 2 0 • view
Agreed - view USA as enemy now. They want isolationist- I’m ok with that. We need some democracy self preservation.
feb 21, 2025, 2:09 pm • 1 0 • view
Ami Go home
feb 21, 2025, 1:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Yanks are ultimate surrender monkeys who need to just pack up and leave.
feb 21, 2025, 1:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Ok, for Gods sake take your troops home!!! Can someone take away this guy his microphone? When you think it can’t be any worse than Trump and Musk, then Assistant Vice President JD Vance opens his mouth…
feb 21, 2025, 6:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Putin's mouth piece
feb 21, 2025, 1:48 pm • 4 0 • view
As bad as this might be, hopefully it'll just push the EU into a closer union
feb 21, 2025, 4:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Free speech meaning support for fascism 🤮 Yankees go home
feb 21, 2025, 1:44 pm • 6 0 • view
Free speech. For US apparently it means blocking press that doesn’t agree with Trump. Spilling the media and internet with lies and filth unheard of in modern history and never done by an US president before. If that’s free speech, no thanks I pass.
feb 21, 2025, 1:57 pm • 2 0 • view
How about his own fucking stance on free speech? Just take a short look on how free speech works on Elmo’s pathetic platform, or in American school libraries. The bigotry is unbearable.
feb 21, 2025, 1:51 pm • 4 0 • view
He thinks Germany is going to change their constitution to please the USA? 😂
feb 21, 2025, 2:27 pm • 2 0 • view
GTFO!
feb 21, 2025, 9:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Excellent… don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
feb 21, 2025, 1:36 pm • 33 0 • view
Good riddance
feb 21, 2025, 11:25 pm • 0 0 • view
„free speech“… lol, hate and lies? Ehm, nope
feb 21, 2025, 5:36 pm • 0 0 • view
STupid Vance needs to stay out of the public eye as most VPs do.
feb 21, 2025, 3:54 pm • 0 0 • view
If he really thinks Germans would object (they won’t), then he’s ignorant. Our presence there benefits us. Not Germany.
feb 21, 2025, 5:03 pm • 4 0 • view
We will make a reason for it You give us two good reasons not to hold back 1/ Get the Nazis out of the EU🇪🇺 2/ A democratic and strong EU🇪🇺 Army
feb 21, 2025, 2:06 pm • 1 0 • view
Free speech is free if it's true. Vance doesn't get it. Lies told over and over is called propaganda! Blue sky is free speech,Facebook is not!
feb 21, 2025, 2:21 pm • 0 0 • view
don’t let the door hit you on the way out
feb 22, 2025, 12:43 am • 0 0 • view
Bigoted, white supremacist, buffoon makes bigoted, white supremacist statement - Again. Move on, nothing to see here.
feb 21, 2025, 1:53 pm • 0 0 • view
When can he leave? Soon is not enough.
feb 21, 2025, 2:13 pm • 1 0 • view
Blackmailing gangsters and extremists.
feb 21, 2025, 1:49 pm • 4 0 • view
cpac is nothing more than mass masturbation. they'll say anything to get each other off.
feb 21, 2025, 1:38 pm • 1 0 • view
This man is a disgraceful cretin on the wrong side of history.
feb 21, 2025, 2:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Good riddance
feb 21, 2025, 4:14 pm • 0 0 • view
Vance isn't talking about "free speech". He is seeking to promote fascist parties such as the AfD.
feb 21, 2025, 1:56 pm • 4 0 • view
They are going to quit NATO.
feb 21, 2025, 1:44 pm • 1 0 • view
Yup they are going to quit a lot of things - time to rebuild Alliances UN (without the veto) trading networks and NATO.
feb 21, 2025, 2:04 pm • 2 0 • view
Hi Liam, Below 👇 is a petition for radical (status-quo breaking) reform of the UN 🇺🇳 and its “Security” Council, which I believe will be of interest to you/others: www.change.org/ReformTheUni...
feb 21, 2025, 9:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Thanks Paul appreciate the lead.
feb 21, 2025, 9:53 pm • 1 0 • view
You're very welcome, Liam! I hope you like the petition.
feb 21, 2025, 9:55 pm • 0 0 • view
here in Germany we can built very efficient good weapons also nuclear weapons let’s start it
feb 21, 2025, 2:09 pm • 3 0 • view
The US complaining about other countries' military spending is like someone showing up to a potluck with a 12 course banquet and saying other guests didn't do their "fair share" because they only cooked one dish.
feb 21, 2025, 1:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Be aware that Politico owner Springer SE Mr Döpfner had a conversation right after Vance speech and Döpfner was „very engaged with Vance opinion“. So is Politico? Who knows. Be aware!
feb 21, 2025, 1:41 pm • 3 1 • view
Like fascism a la Putin
feb 21, 2025, 1:42 pm • 0 0 • view
At last. If only they’d shut down all their international “defence” outposts.
feb 21, 2025, 1:47 pm • 0 0 • view
That Vance character is a bit stinky, isnt it?
feb 22, 2025, 12:36 am • 0 0 • view
Can you be jailed in Germany for posting a mean tweet? Or is this yet another lie? Or does he mean that expressing Nazi ideas is a problem for most Germans?
feb 21, 2025, 1:57 pm • 1 0 • view
The US had lead the “Entnazifizierung” after 1945 and influenced the constitution of 1949. Article 1 protects the dignity of every person - and “free speech” has some specific exclusions related to Nazi history. Kind of ironic that the US is now complaining about what they used to stand for.
feb 21, 2025, 6:41 pm • 2 1 • view
No, I'm sure a "mean tweet" alone wouldn't come to jail time, but there are specific laws w/ regard to publicly promoting white supremacy, overt racism, violence & Nazi sentiments/symbology. Can't give specifics, but I've seen posts from truly horrific accounts that are blocked from inside Germany.
feb 21, 2025, 2:14 pm • 4 0 • view
Spoken like a true Nazi
feb 21, 2025, 1:52 pm • 0 0 • view
So predictable it's pathetic.
feb 21, 2025, 1:40 pm • 2 0 • view
With German snap election this weekend, I guess we’ll see how their voters respond to threats like this. Hopefully with a big middle finger like Canada.
feb 21, 2025, 7:55 pm • 0 0 • view
It is not free speech he is talking about!
feb 21, 2025, 1:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Such unmitigated arrogance!
feb 21, 2025, 1:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Yankees Go Home Trump Musk Vance go away of Europe
feb 21, 2025, 8:45 pm • 3 1 • view
While the US has enjoyed the perception of creating security. I’m not sure they aren’t the devil we know rather than an ally. They certainly have won any of the wars they’ve started, bought or fostered. Be interesting to when we all turn away from the US doctrines.
feb 21, 2025, 1:49 pm • 3 0 • view
It's THE opportunity for Europe. Please, DO!!!
feb 21, 2025, 10:21 pm • 0 0 • view
GET THESE F"CKING NAZIS OUT AMERICA!
feb 21, 2025, 2:21 pm • 0 0 • view
In Poland the question we ask about such people is: are they traitors or idiots?
feb 21, 2025, 1:45 pm • 13 0 • view
feb 21, 2025, 10:49 pm • 2 0 • view
Why would they want enemy troops in their borders?
feb 21, 2025, 1:46 pm • 1 0 • view
If Germany and the rest of the EU had the balls to call Trump's and Vance's bluff out, by demanding that the USA would remove all US bases, including all personnelb(who will then be unemployed),we will see the biggest backtrack that fat orange man has ever done in his overweight miserable life.
feb 21, 2025, 1:40 pm • 30 2 • view
maybe the balls are the problem in itself
feb 21, 2025, 2:17 pm • 2 0 • view
Sadly, yes...
feb 21, 2025, 3:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes! EU do it!
feb 21, 2025, 3:14 pm • 4 0 • view
True...
feb 21, 2025, 3:43 pm • 0 0 • view
The problem comes when they refuse to leave.
feb 21, 2025, 1:57 pm • 3 0 • view
Then the EU will face that hurdle, when and if, it presents itself. In my personal opinion, bully Orange Man wouldn't even let it escalate to that point. As with all bullies, they all retreat, when you show them you can hit them back.
feb 21, 2025, 2:07 pm • 3 0 • view
This sheds light on his insistence to “buy” Greenland. Or Red White and Blue Land.
feb 21, 2025, 3:38 pm • 2 0 • view
One of the nations threatening war against Europe and cosying with the other is going to leave? Please tell me how is that a bad thing.
feb 21, 2025, 2:48 pm • 0 0 • view
This is of course non sense. US has mainly their Europe and Africa HQ in Germany. Hardly any combat troops. Withdrawl would mean loss of global reach for the US military.
feb 21, 2025, 2:20 pm • 3 0 • view