COMMENTARY: China's EVs are far cheaper than Western-manufactured ones — and much of it comes down to the battery. But now, thanks to one small town in Norway, there might yet be hope for a greener future without risky dependencies on China.
COMMENTARY: China's EVs are far cheaper than Western-manufactured ones — and much of it comes down to the battery. But now, thanks to one small town in Norway, there might yet be hope for a greener future without risky dependencies on China.
Do Norway give subsides to the company?
The less money going torwards enriching a brutal dictatorship the better.
Norway can expect loads of Chinese "tourists" in the near future.
I foresee a new line of EVs with suspiciously similar battery designs trying to flood the market in the near future.
Odd article this given that several Chinese car company have models with both types of batteries and are still cheaper. My own experience of moving from Tesla to Xpeng is that the Chinese brand is just better quality really.
Not odd at all. We need to be self-sufficient with important tech and not rely solely on China or Usa.
The whole premise of the article is that the Chinese are doing well as they use cheaper LFP batteries whereas Europe uses the older more energy dense technology but that Norway has an LFP factory. The article is odd because the Chinese cars come with both technologies and both do well.
LFP batteries are signicantly cheaper and is taking over. That is why I believe. NMC batteries are still likely to remain in high-performance and luxury EVs.
Interesting but beside the point.
Oh, not at all. I did not agree with your assessement of the article's premise. I believe the premise is that there is hope for Europe as it is lagging behind in technology but trying to catch up. We lag behind in batteries, AI. satelites etc. But things are starting to move in the right direction.
If one fjord town can launch Europe’s first gigawatt LFP plant, imagine what a dozen EU countries could do. The message to Brussels is simple: don’t admire it scale it.
It's simply not true that Chinese EVs are much cheaper than European ones. They do compete on price, because they are new to the market, but the gaps are not huge. Here's a video comparing the BYD Dolphin Surf to the Renault 5 and Citroën ë-C3. (Cost comparison near the end.)
It depends on the meaning of cheaper because their cars are cheaper but then get tariffs slapped on them?
But the EU makes the fair point the China subsidizes EV manufacturers and the tariffs are different for different manufacturers. Also, some brands are setting up European (EU, Turkey, UK) factories or joint ventures (Leap Motor).
Just get rid of the goddamned cars altogether and the 'battery' problems are solved. A battery car is still a car.
Here's my two cents based on my own experience back at the university: the EU spends billions upon billions on research. Then publishes it all for free on the world wide web. China does research too, but none of the strategic results get published globaly.
“Cheaper” insideevs.com/news/716063/...
It's just dumping and I'm very skeptical that Chinese EV's will be safe.
They're fine. If that was a concern Buick and Lincoln, under which GM and Ford sell American's Chinese ICE vehicles, would be shuttered.
The cost of EV’s needs to halve before people can actually afford them
They are the same price some cheaper than many of the trucks in US. Now granted if you’re looking at the high end BMW or the like, way up there in price.