DeToro was marketing . Every one of those people is creating “ digital” art. He chose to say carefully crafted words that denigrate them and their work. There is no use of AI in movies because AI is useless.
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And again… point me to where he put down digital artists, because I’m not seeing it. Praising the artists who create physical sets, real props and practical effects is NOT a diss on digital artists in literally any way and you have to be really uncharitable to read it that way
aug 26, 2025, 1:42 pm • 0 0 • view
First of all it’s marketing not a diss. For some reason hollywood is convinced that moviegoers think traditional crafts are more authentic then digital ones and it play along. Praising only traditional crafts while not praising digital crafts as well but slighting digital instead
aug 26, 2025, 3:51 pm • 0 0 • view
is down playing the contribution of digital artists to the production of his motion picture. Of course what he said was scripted to sell a herbal tea & echinacea vibe for the movie not to actually say make a statement that could be parsed by a lawer.
aug 26, 2025, 3:56 pm • 0 0 • view
We have a fundamentally different understanding of what he said. I’ve worked on film sets, the reason people praise real sets and practical effects is because it helps every aspect of production from the acting to the directing AND to the VFX department
aug 26, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s a lot easier to enhance/add to something that’s already there and make it look realistic than it is to create something from scratch under crunch time. But real sets are expensive and if they don’t translate to better sales, the executives will cut costs at the expense of the art
aug 26, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
That’s why he saying this. He’s saying that the art, every level of it, is what matters, not what technically brings in the best revenue. I’m sorry that you feel that he was disrespecting digital artists, but that’s not what he said, it’s the story you’re choosing to tell.
aug 26, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
I don’t think he’s outright attacking VFX artists (unlike the press), but he does clearly lack a deeper understanding of the tools his VFX teams use. AI is under the hood of almost all major VFX pipeline tools, whether we like to admit it or not.
aug 26, 2025, 1:56 pm • 0 0 • view
To be clear, I am a digital artist. Having an AI detect a background to make it easier to key-in another image, for example, is timesaving and helps without replacing human artists That’s not what people mean when they talk about AI being unethical, what they’re referencing is generative AI
aug 26, 2025, 2:26 pm • 1 0 • view
As am I. Background detection etc. is still generative ai. Thousand of images are still procured (or scraped) in order to train the model’s behaviour. I’m sure lots of folks in VFX who were primarily roto-artists would disagree with the belief that human artists haven’t been replaced.
aug 26, 2025, 2:34 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m don’t think AI can be viewed in binary. It’s too complex, too nuanced to be a simple choice of adopting a pro or anti stance. There’s abhorrent, unethical behaviour by OpenAI and many others, but I don’t think being anti-ai is a viable longterm position.
aug 26, 2025, 2:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Depends what you mean when you say AI. Lots of digital tools are semi automated, which is fine, but generative AI is a completely different, highly unethical thing
aug 26, 2025, 2:21 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m mean generative ai, though mainly proprietary datasets/models. It’s under the hood across Autodesk, Abobe etc.
aug 26, 2025, 2:26 pm • 0 0 • view
If you’re trying to defend the use of generative AI, you are not on the side of artists
aug 26, 2025, 2:28 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m very much on the side of VFX/animation artists, and have spent a good chunk of my professional career training thousands of them. AI isn’t going away. So it’s needs to be wrangled, legislated and democratised. It can be used ethically, in ways you described, and taken out of techbro hands.
aug 26, 2025, 2:46 pm • 0 0 • view
I agree that AI is useless, but it’s factually incorrect to state that no films are using AI. Unfortunately, they are. There’s a reason it was a huge part of the discussion during the writers and actors strikes
aug 26, 2025, 1:37 pm • 0 0 • view