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emptywheel @emptywheel.bsky.social

Yesterday, Trump explained Epstein "stole" one of his employees, Trump told him to stop, and Epstein did it again. Was that a confession that he knew Epstein "stole" Virginia Giuffre to rape and traffic her? www.emptywheel.net/2025/07/29/d...

jul 29, 2025, 3:52 pm • 604 253

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Chokoreeto B @chokoreetob.bsky.social

You’re really losing it.

jul 29, 2025, 3:59 pm • 0 0 • view
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M Maher @marvelle.bsky.social

yes it seems so unlikely considering the evidence www.politico.com/story/2019/0...

jul 29, 2025, 4:10 pm • 2 3 • view
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Chokoreeto B @chokoreetob.bsky.social

Ok I hugely misread. I was very wrong.

jul 29, 2025, 6:47 pm • 1 0 • view
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Chokoreeto B @chokoreetob.bsky.social

Who is disputing this in this discussion?

jul 29, 2025, 5:07 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bob0Colo ... 719 @bob0colo.bsky.social

More like Epstein Dumps Trump over a Real Estate deal that screwed Epstein.

jul 29, 2025, 7:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lonnietoft @lonnietoft.bsky.social

Trump just confused his child rape victim with an employee. During his trial he confused his adult rape victim, EJ Carrol, with his marriage victim, Marla Maples.

jul 29, 2025, 4:19 pm • 4 2 • view
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pndodge.bsky.social @pndodge.bsky.social

That makes a twisted kind of sense. It’s clear Demented Donny objectifies others as being his to command. That’s clear from his press conferences. So it’s not a stretch that he’d refer to his victims as employees.

jul 29, 2025, 4:57 pm • 1 0 • view
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Robin Budd @robinbudd.bsky.social

even if the case, see Katie Johnson transcript.

jul 29, 2025, 4:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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C E, a.k.a. Cletus @69cletus.bsky.social

Stole, he probably sold her to Epstein

jul 29, 2025, 3:57 pm • 0 0 • view
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LessBarb @lessbarb.bsky.social

Worse (in his mind), a good grounds keeper.

jul 29, 2025, 6:25 pm • 0 0 • view
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Hold My Beer 🇲🇽🇨🇦🇺🇦🇬🇱🇵🇦 @holdontoyourbutts.bsky.social

Yup.

jul 29, 2025, 6:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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Andrea Reynolds @waternymph.bsky.social

I'm willing to bet Trump always knew about Epstein and often partook in raping girls Epstein trafficked. He drew the line when Epstein used Mar a Lago as a recruitment site. He enjoyed it all but did not want to be directly involved. He knew direct involvement could end badly.

jul 29, 2025, 4:13 pm • 2 0 • view
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Norah @noraham.bsky.social

His only red line is getting cut out of profit-sharing

jul 29, 2025, 4:37 pm • 1 0 • view
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Roxy @roxy33.bsky.social

He just admitted she was one of two!

jul 29, 2025, 7:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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10tothe22 @10tothe22.mastodon.social.ap.brid.gy

@emptywheel.bsky.social Absolutely nuts. He just admitted to knowing her, employing her in a spa, underage!

jul 29, 2025, 10:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jadefire @jadefire.bsky.social

I think what Trump was trying to argue was, "I was friends with him until he started preying on my employees, which made me realize he was a monster." Except he instead implied he knew what the girl was "stolen" for, and video and audio proved that Trump stayed friends with him for a few more years

jul 30, 2025, 2:35 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jadefire @jadefire.bsky.social

... despite him preying on his employees, which instead makes him look so much worse.

jul 30, 2025, 2:36 pm • 0 0 • view
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jambs54321.bsky.social @jambs54321.bsky.social

Yes—it’s probably very hard to hang onto the very young and beautiful Mar A Lago employees. Highly qualified young ladies that are hard to replace. Does this sound like what an employer might say about a teenage employee that would probably be making minimum wage at a normal job?????

jul 29, 2025, 4:00 pm • 1 1 • view
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bunnyjenkins.bsky.social @bunnyjenkins.bsky.social

Wonder what her employment timeline was according to Trumps new excuse- Was she working for Trump & Epstein while at Mar-fucko? When did she quit, or she stayed at Trump's and ... Or Trump got exposed running a fancy brothel Too bad we can't ask her - because she "killed herself like Epstein"

jul 29, 2025, 6:39 pm • 0 0 • view
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PJ walker @pj1304.bsky.social

Trump doesn't want to admit Epstein beat him in a business deal.

jul 29, 2025, 4:00 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jason S @jasonswritings.bsky.social

He just admitted it.

jul 29, 2025, 6:49 pm • 2 0 • view
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Trump’sChildSexTraffickingScandalCat @unhipcat.bsky.social

epstein “stole” one of trump’s 14-year old towel girls.

jul 29, 2025, 5:45 pm • 0 0 • view
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Liberty and Justice for All @rm189.bsky.social

bsky.app/profile/eile...

aug 2, 2025, 9:42 am • 1 0 • view
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Liberty and Justice for All @rm189.bsky.social

bsky.app/profile/rm18...

aug 2, 2025, 9:42 am • 0 0 • view
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John Novio @johnnynovio.bsky.social

Once again, the victim known as Trump was claiming some wrong against him. Trump thinks he owns everyone in his orbit.

jul 29, 2025, 6:42 pm • 0 0 • view
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AhOui Keep me off yer stinkin lists @unimpressedlately.bsky.social

Could be, couldn't it?

jul 29, 2025, 4:18 pm • 0 0 • view
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patclatter.bsky.social @patclatter.bsky.social

Sounds like it to me.

jul 29, 2025, 5:13 pm • 0 0 • view
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Chris Winters 🇩🇪 🇺🇦 🇬🇪 @cwinters.bsky.social

Try this lense: How would it look if two rival illegal organizations had beef over poaching from each other? Like that?

jul 30, 2025, 3:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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Gina @cissybgood67.bsky.social

We always knew, really.

jul 29, 2025, 5:13 pm • 0 0 • view
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jdswan.bsky.social @jdswan.bsky.social

Also creepy he knew a 16 year old runaway working in his spa enough to get heated about her being “stolen” Seriously like the golden CEO doing Manhattan deals knows this particular employee in his spa? Did he know all the caddies? Very weird.

jul 29, 2025, 4:06 pm • 4 2 • view
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speedway22.bsky.social @speedway22.bsky.social

Right? She shouldn’t have been doing that type of job anyway but at the very least how the hell would he know anything about her specifically among the multitudes of his ‘staff’. We know why.

jul 30, 2025, 2:37 am • 0 0 • view
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veronica biancalana 🇺🇸 🇮🇹 🇺🇦 🇳🇴 🇲🇽 🇩🇪 @vero1986.bsky.social

Maria Farmer and her sister reported them in 1996. (Epstein, Maxwell, Trump, Alan Dershowitz, Les Wexner, etc) and police/FBI did nothing bsky.app/profile/chri...

jul 29, 2025, 5:43 pm • 2 1 • view
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J-Dave @j-dave.bsky.social

Every day Trump tests the water for forgiveness of child sex trafficking is a day for the cult to decide the water's still fine

jul 29, 2025, 3:57 pm • 15 1 • view
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equaloppcynic.bsky.social @equaloppcynic.bsky.social

You're giving way too much strategic credit to a demented imbecile. This isn't multidimensional chess. He's panicked and his brain has probably reclassified victims as "employees" to give him a cover story.

jul 29, 2025, 6:27 pm • 0 0 • view
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crabbycoach.bsky.social @crabbycoach.bsky.social

This is a good point. He continually pushes the boundaries further and further until his base supports the most appalling viewpoints, even those completely contrary to those they previously and fully accepted. It's not an "accident" or a "confession"—it's how he controls the narrative.

jul 29, 2025, 4:02 pm • 9 3 • view
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Margaret Kerr @magsrum.bsky.social

Stole dishwashers? Wait staff? Cleaners? Why? Oh, wait...

jul 29, 2025, 4:23 pm • 1 0 • view
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mmmmdrop @bcriley.bsky.social

Yes.

jul 29, 2025, 4:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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DDrae🇨🇦 @ddrae.bsky.social

Yeah Epstein took his 14 years olds back from MAL RELEASE THE pedo~Files

jul 29, 2025, 5:01 pm • 1 1 • view
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langcow.bsky.social @langcow.bsky.social

#pedopotus

jul 29, 2025, 8:43 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jeff @jefelvs.bsky.social

That’s what I thought he was referring to. Epstein doesn’t seem jonesing for an omelette maker but trump and Epstein obviously conspicuously interested in little girls

jul 29, 2025, 6:59 pm • 0 0 • view
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medicinebudha @themedicinebudha.bsky.social

Epstein ~ www.thepetitionsite.com/637/467/299/...

jul 30, 2025, 12:54 am • 0 0 • view
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Matthew @matthewchat.bsky.social

Possessions.

jul 29, 2025, 7:29 pm • 0 0 • view
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EverydayRod @rrobert11.bsky.social

Yes

jul 29, 2025, 4:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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Never trumper Ever @okieblue54.bsky.social

His constant attempts to cover one lie with another have become an unintentional confession of his wrongdoings. His buffoonery might be amusing if it weren’t causing suffering for the people of our nation. I hope that one day he becomes so entangled in his lies that he ends up confessing everything.

jul 30, 2025, 11:32 am • 0 0 • view
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Dave Clemmons @daveclemmons.bsky.social

An EXCELLENT point. Would that some in the mainstream media would investigate that?!?

jul 29, 2025, 3:55 pm • 1 0 • view
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John Jupin @vols71.bsky.social

Respect my Author-i-ty Donald J Trump youtu.be/i0oJ23b_wEs

jul 30, 2025, 6:13 pm • 0 0 • view
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Connie @captainconstance.bsky.social

Why was an underage girl working in a ‘spa’ ?

jul 29, 2025, 6:46 pm • 1 0 • view
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Nancy @plaintanjane.bsky.social

Yes. Rewatch the Aberdeenshire presser w/ Starmer. It’s hard to listen to Trump blather, (it was about 1 hr 30 min long) but the reporters elicited some telling responses to their questions about Maxwell & Epstein. (Trump & von der Leyen’s presser was only 24 min) bsky.app/profile/plai...

jul 29, 2025, 4:16 pm • 6 4 • view
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Nancy @plaintanjane.bsky.social

Another tell is when he says “for years I wouldn’t talk to” him— implying that at some point he relented, and began talking to Epstein again, but then Jeffrey “did it again” — Epstein was a member of MarALago until Oct 2007. Virginia Roberts was “stolen” from him at age 15-16 in 2000.

But a new book out Tuesday titled “The Grifter’s Club” says the late sex trafficker was indeed a member and that the two stopped talking — and Epstein was kicked off the rolls and banned from Mar-a-Lago — following the incident with a club member’s teen daughter. 📸President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach is now officially the president’s residence. Charles Trainor Jr. MIAMI HERALD Another club member explained that Trump “kicked Epstein out after Epstein harassed the daughter of a member. The way this person described it, such an act could irreparably harm the Trump brand, leaving Donald no choice but to remove Epstein,” said Sarah Blaskey, a Miami Herald investigative reporter who co-wrote the book with Miami Herald journalists Nicholas Nehamas and Jay Weaver and Caitlin Ostroff of the Wall Street Journal. “The Trump Organization did not respond to our requests for comment on this or other matters.” A footnote in the book says the authors were shown the club’s registry from more than a decade earlier and that Epstein in fact had been a member until October 2007. “The member lists we saw were essentially spreadsheets. They listed current members, honorary members and former members. Red cells indicate the closed account details for former members,” explained co-author Nehamas. “Most closed accounts are labeled ‘Resigned’ and then the date that the membership ended. Epstein’s account says ‘Account closed 10/07.’”
jul 29, 2025, 4:38 pm • 4 1 • view
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Gone19 @gone19.bsky.social

Even if it’s not about the SA victims, that’s slaver talk at best. You can’t steal an employee because employees aren’t owned.

jul 29, 2025, 3:55 pm • 3 1 • view
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alal1.bsky.social @alal1.bsky.social

Pressure, pressure, pressure. www.inquirer.com/politics/new...

jul 29, 2025, 4:37 pm • 0 0 • view
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Yle @ebrizendine.bsky.social

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devoidcat.bsky.social @devoidcat.bsky.social

Unless he was assaulting her at Mar a Lago, why would he care if a towel girl was still employed by him or not, especially when he was so close to Epstein? I think that is kind of truth slip, but is there another poached employee at the heart of this?

jul 29, 2025, 4:53 pm • 1 0 • view
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cjc7777 @cjcam7777.bsky.social

Trump and Epstein collaborated and competed over Soviet Union investors. Residential Palm Beach was ideal for illicit money, but needed a frontman. Epstein "stole" some oligarchs- not spa workers.

jul 29, 2025, 9:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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Mister Clear Skies @rudymadrox.bsky.social

The implication here is that it appears Donald #Trump knew activity related to sex trafficking was happening at a location he himself owned. And he apparently did not feel the need to inform any authorities. Seems like a thing we should keep reminding the #Republican party about.

jul 29, 2025, 4:31 pm • 0 1 • view
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d-d-jones.bsky.social @d-d-jones.bsky.social

He talks like a human was property 🤬

jul 29, 2025, 8:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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M Maher @marvelle.bsky.social

I’m also confused because Epstein told Michael Wolff that the falling out was over the attempted purchase of a Palm Beach mansion they both were after. So, which is it? docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/...

jul 29, 2025, 4:59 pm • 0 0 • view
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M Maher @marvelle.bsky.social

Yes!! He was mad Epstein was recruiting girls at Mar-a-Lago and just admitted to it in his weird way.

jul 29, 2025, 4:08 pm • 2 1 • view
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Moosedog66 @moosedog66.bsky.social

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08...

jul 29, 2025, 3:57 pm • 8 4 • view
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M Maher @marvelle.bsky.social

There are 2 Netflix docs on Maxwell and they are so damming. Like, she may be as bad or worse than Epstein.

jul 29, 2025, 4:12 pm • 16 6 • view
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RadioStatic @radiostatik.bsky.social

He’s certainly not taking about a groundskeeper or the omelette bar attendee.

jul 29, 2025, 4:29 pm • 2 1 • view
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TodayOnFocus @theeliasrework.bsky.social

bsky.app/profile/thee...

jul 29, 2025, 10:08 pm • 1 1 • view
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Bev Brenner @united1972.bsky.social

I was wondering the same thing 🙋‍♀️

jul 29, 2025, 3:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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Michael McKeon @grinch67.bsky.social

Trump keeps digging the hole he’s in deeper and deeper

jul 29, 2025, 4:51 pm • 1 1 • view
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Acerbik @acerbik.bsky.social

Pedo's don't like other pedo's taking their "target". And given that one person is using the term "stole" when referencing a human being you can see that one person felt they "owned" Virginia bc they "invested" money & time into owning her These men are sick & vile (as are those defending them)

jul 29, 2025, 4:12 pm • 9 4 • view
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RODIN @rodin20583.bsky.social

Yeah, I think it's a pre-emptive attempt at a cover-up. Most Trump supporters wouldn't know that Virginia Giuffre worked at Mar-a-largo when she was recruited and allegedly then trafficked to Prince Andrew. That would be in the files, so Trump uses the word "stole" to distance himself from it.

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AMERICA @nittygrity.bsky.social

Absolutely

jul 29, 2025, 4:19 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kane Lawless 420 @kanelawless420.bsky.social

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jul 29, 2025, 4:39 pm • 1 1 • view