I’m sure if someone made all those exact posts but about Gaza and then turned around and made three posts over the span of four months that they didn’t mean it we’d similarly be obligated to take that at face value

Contrapoints didn't even say anything against Gaza itself and just questioned some of the western activists who champion it and she was excoriated for it.

lol dead silence

What's funny is that the post where Juniper "apologizes" is full of her followers basically kinda acknowledging that Juniper wasn't even in the wrong anyways, and that Ukraine is a "US puppet state"

Yeah the tankie information space is too deeply ingrained in the world she’s in. It’s literally impossible to get those people to not be overly credulous when it comes to anti-western governments. It sucks.

That's an audience she's cultivated and is clearly disinterested in policing. And people are wondering why she can't be trusted?

You cannot tell me that a person that allows people to use her "apology" to platform anti-Ukraine Russian propaganda uninterrupted is actually being earnest about their support for Ukraine.

And like, I'm sorry but "it was a bad joke" just doesn't cut it. Civilian mass graves were being filled by Russians while she was making those posts about the war. You can't just swipe that under the rug and just say "yeah, I made some nondescript jokes, they were bad, whoops!" Like, what jokes?

This would be an interesting thing to ask her about, unfortunately I've been blocked by her for being critical of her behind her back, or liking the wrong posts, so I guess she prefers the company of more compassionate, empathetic people. Like the ones arguing Ukrainian are Nazis.

Yeah she’s said enough other things I like that I no joke earnestly would implore her to listen to some of the people angry with her.

Like, look at this shit. That "I use ironic humor sometimes" is load bearing. She was making fun of Ukranians as episodes of ethnic cleansing were happening under everyone's eyes.

She thinks this is the problem. Centrist libs. Not having said shit that would get her run off this site if they were about any other ongoing ethnic cleansing. She legit does not understand what people are mad at her for.

Like if Putin invading after insisted he wouldn’t and then basically making overt movie villain coded nuclear threats the night of the invasion against anyone who helped Ukraine didn’t lead them to some reflection nothing will.

Like, again, bodies weren't done decomposing in the dirt while Juniper was making cool epic cynical jokes about the war. "I'm sorry, quit bugging me" is just fucking insulting as an apology.

I admit I’ve definitely been wrong about stuff and I try and be contrite but idk still I’ve never seen a more blatant large scale refutation of a group’s worldview like that in my life.