It is entirely the reason for the genocide. It’s Zionism. The genocide is happening over Zionism, which is peak ethnoreligious ideology.
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You’re just wrong about this.
aug 25, 2025, 6:33 pm • 2 0 • view
It's really not. While there are certainly some people now who espouse a religious and/or ethnic right to the land, that was not the driving force of political Zionism initially, or at basically any point along its history.
aug 25, 2025, 6:30 pm • 4 0 • view
There were many other locations proposed for a Jewish state that Zionist leaders were prepared to accept. Birobidzhan actually existed, for a while, until the Soviets went back on their promise.
aug 25, 2025, 6:32 pm • 2 0 • view
Political Zionism, for many many Jews, is the idea that Jews need *a* State in which Jewishness is specifically protected as part of the national character. Which, personally, I still don't think is something we need or should have.
aug 25, 2025, 6:35 pm • 3 0 • view
But there are a lot of Jews who identify as Zionists who agree that the State of Israel that exists, and the way it came to exist, and the things it is doing are abhorrent. And the only reason they aren't working *with* you to stop the things you claim to oppose is your own refusal to learn.
aug 25, 2025, 6:38 pm • 3 0 • view
I mean was there another way to create an ethnoreligious state without colonializing?
aug 25, 2025, 6:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes. There were multiple suggested proposals, one of which briefly existed until the USSR decided actually antisemitism was more important to them.
aug 25, 2025, 9:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, so it’s basically like all the other religious states that resort to barbarism for this prophecy.
aug 25, 2025, 6:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Ok but what is happening now is in the name of an ethnoreligious state. So see where this can go?
aug 25, 2025, 6:34 pm • 0 0 • view
If you don't understand the difference between "God said this land is ours" and "our people have ancient, important connections to the history of this land" you could frame this as a religious conflict. But you would be incorrect in framing it that way, because those are, in fact, different things.
aug 25, 2025, 9:50 pm • 4 0 • view
Neither justifies genocide or ethnic cleansing, but the latter is both probably, actually true, and there is room within it for *shared* rights to self determination on the land, while the first has neither if those qualities.
aug 25, 2025, 9:52 pm • 5 0 • view
The people of Palestine not only don’t have the right to their land but even to their own lives. This is where ideologies like this can lead and where it is.
aug 25, 2025, 6:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Like white Christian nationalism, those people think this way, they have desires to genocide over it.
aug 25, 2025, 6:22 pm • 0 0 • view
Okay but an ethnoreligious identity needn't include any particular political project or aspirations regarding any extant or hypothetical state? Like tellingly Jewish ethnoreligious identity in the diaspora existed for well over a millennium before anyone came up with the notion of political Zionism.
aug 25, 2025, 6:39 pm • 1 0 • view
All I have been saying is ethnoreligious ideology can get to apocalyptic levels, which it has
aug 25, 2025, 6:40 pm • 0 0 • view
There are also numerous ethnoreligious groups and only a handful that seem to be attached to any current nation-state-ly aspirations, and many that haven't had any such aspirations in a very, very long time, or in some cases ever. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnore...
aug 25, 2025, 6:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Well I got one in the USA that’s pretty lethal, it’s called Christian nationalists, and they are ramping up their fascism. Just hope we don’t end up ghettos like the Palestinians from their ethnoreligious actions.
aug 25, 2025, 6:53 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm beginning to think you don't know what "ethnoreligion" means.
aug 25, 2025, 7:54 pm • 1 0 • view
But also, the problem there is their *nationalist* and *theocratic* actions, just as *nationalist* and *theocratic* elements in the Israeli state have contributed to the way the situation in Palestine (broadly construed) being such a shitshow.
aug 25, 2025, 7:56 pm • 0 0 • view
The thing where Jewishness is an ethnoreligious identity (rather than, say, a universal religion like most forms of Christianity, including the ones currently fucking up the US, or an ethnic identity without this particular sort of religious baggage) is not really the main problem here.
aug 25, 2025, 8:01 pm • 1 0 • view