Philosophers don't want to admit it, but Chidi Anagonye (The Good Place) is a pretty close approximation of many real philosophers.
Philosophers don't want to admit it, but Chidi Anagonye (The Good Place) is a pretty close approximation of many real philosophers.
I only have a phil minor, but the episode in the last season where we get flashbacks to Chidi growing up was uncomfortably relatable.
Here's a reenactment of a discussion I had with my high school girlfriend about me also being attracted to my best friend: GF: You have to make a decision! This is torture! Me: I need more information. What if, like, I do a trial period with each of you, and... GF: *inconsolable wailing*
They're all surprisingly jacked? 😁
The only inaccuracy
I really enjoyed the Good place.
Not one actual philosopher is as ripped as Chidi.
these be fighting words😂
i ... like my chances
Especially in the episode in which his best friend's body is sprayed all over him while driving a trolley.
What DO we owe each other?
The book, obviously. It's labeling its own contents, a joke that every human on Earth is supposed to buy a copy for every other human on Earth
$7.94
Perfect place for this gif.
"Philosophers don't want to admit it" is the new "doctors hate her"
A phil prof friend did like the show, and appreciated that it actually credited Philippa Foot with creating the Trolley Problem hypothetical, which intro phil instructors almost never do.
Umm Chidi gives extremely unrealistic expectations about what philosophers’ bodies look like.
😅
Fair
I liked the show a lot. And I think most male philosophers would do anything to be as ripped as Chidi.
How Chidi does philosophy — by jumping on one theory after another in earnest — is not how philosophers do philosophy. But the representation of various philosophical views was shockingly accurate, and that was amazing and wonderful. Also, he’s just so much hotter than any APA attendee.
Idk, I've definitely seen philosophers do that. Especially over beer
There should be a philosopher who is also a cool biker dude
I'm a high school teacher but my mother was in elementary school teacher in a low-income inner city school and she says that Abbott elementary is incredibly accurate.
Kevin, Chidi literally says there’s no solution to the trolley problem. Have you met a single philosopher who thinks there’s no solution to the trolley problem?
Except he does say in the variant involving a doctor that he as a doctor took a oath to do no harm and thus can not harm others to save a life
I think that!
*raises hand*
There's no *right* solution to the trolley problem but there are a few wrong ones. I head this "I couldn't pull the lever because I wouldn't know who deserved to die..." I'm sorry, does ANYONE deserve to die? Well, he didn't get that internship.
The solution to the trolley problem is to give *everyone* a trolley.
A trolley on every track
Socrates is a philosopher. All philosophers are trolleys. Therefore...
"Communism is electrification plus trolleys" - V.I.Lenin, "What Is To Be Done?"
If the trolley problem is "Is it ethically permissible to pull the lever in the original Spur case", do you still think that?
The problem is almost always under-specified for a utilitarian to answer. As a result to demand that it has a single solution without further detail is to prejudice the answer
You mean like, “the trolley problem” doesn’t specify whether the single person on the spur is your child or not?
I just mean that it doesn't tell you any of the enormous host of consequences that would be necessary for a utilitarian calculus. What do I expect each of those people will do with their lives? What will happen to me after I do or do not push the person? Will my pushing change social norms? Etc.
I’ll believe that when I see it!
So you have these two tracks.. On one track is the trolley problem, on the other track is a question about what the nothing does....
So, this doesn't quite answer the question. Rather professionals hate it *because* it gets it right.
But we love looking jacked!
What philosophers have you met who disliked Good Place because of Chidi? Almost every one I've talked to about the show loved it. The thing that most folks I know complain about is the size of Chidi's office as a grad student.
"I've met a philosopher who hated x" is true for all x
But seriously, I thought the majority opinion was anti The Good Place. Is that not true?
I am a professional philosopher and The Good Place is my favorite tv show ever. Now if you’ll excuse me, I gotta go put the Peeps in the chili pot (and add some M&Ms)
I’ve only talked to profs who loved it.
most of the philosophers I've spoken to about it have loved it, and the ones who didn't like it were grumpy cynical types who hate everything anyway
I also loved it (albeit it was a love that slightly diminished over the last two seasons), and when it was on I lived with two other philosophers who also loved it
The philosopher in my life loved it, but thought it was unrealistic that Chidi's views were so unformed at his assistant-professor stage of life.
😅 I for one am not grumpy or cynical. As evidence, I present to the jury the fact that I'm currently doing a Moone Boy rewatch!
Seconding Hane’s assessment. This is also my experience.
Yeah, that’s my experience too.
Every philosopher I have talked to about it loves it. Without exception.
I guess I'm an exception then 😅 I just didn't personally find it that funny overall though, nothing in particular to do with Chidi's character.
Also my experience - I haven't encountered any haters (and I was a fan myself)
Huh. I thought I was in the minority
For example
I'm part of an unnaturally cool and chill dept at SUNY Albany, so take my anecdotal evidence with a grain of salt; but there's universal love from what I've come across in my long grad career. And also, as a comedy expert, it's a Mike fucking Schur show. He's a legend.
if the claim is "professionals hate it because it gets it right" you cannot cite me as your evidence
Ha! No, I was just citing you as evidence that philosophers don't like the good place
o7 o7
Echoing a wise man, ""I've met a philosopher who hated x" is true for all x". The overwhelming majority of philosophers I've talked to about Good Place have liked it a lot. I can only think of two who said they didn't.
The Good Place is incredible.
In case anyone ever contests this statement: I, a philosopher, hate x for all x. Cheers !
true, I'm too anxious and can't take decisions, but I look fabulous at least
Would that the West Wing had depicted reality.
My experience has been philosophers frequently and loudly admitting this
If Chidi is a realistic portrait of philosophy Im glad I went to a weird school where they just chucked copies of Anzaldua and Zhuangzi at my head.
Sounds dangerous
It was! I ended up with a biochem degree somehow and there were no survivors