Make no mistake. Every politician, pundit & online grifter amplifying Musk's dangerous lies will be aware of this intervention by now. Make no mistake, they are choosing to mislead the public & politicise the suffering of victims in the shameful pursuit of political advantage, attention & clicks.
Yeah he used to have a good stance in the Corbyn era. But as with the 10 pledges we've all seen his tack to the right and I mean he's appointed Mandelson as US ambassador it's really just a matter of time until he's as chummy with the people attacking him as he is with Farage. I'm guessing 1 year?
After all Starmer is as prevalent a lier as Boris Johnson but where everyone was clutching their pearls in Westminster because he lied to PARLIAMENT! THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE! *swoon gasp* Starmer has lied to THE PUBLIC, you know, the ACTUAL important people.
Just do what Brasil did. Very simple
Musk's platform must be banned in the UK, Europe and all other democracies that care about democracy. Remove X #banX
Send Musk to Mars and restore Twitter from a backup made in 2018.
This quote appears to be from The Times and the article is free to read: www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/...
Do the amplifiers know what Musk is about? I don't, but intuition tells me he's neither stable, wise nor benevolent. I saw this & at first dismissed it, then I listened to it. Mmmmm youtu.be/9y-erGt0LsU?...
Twitter is such a cesspit now. I've seen the Norfolk quote on there twice and the replies mainly attack the messenger or deflect/minimise from the role Starmer played in improving the prosecutions.
It's a re-run of how QAnon was used to recruit for Trump, except "Pakistani grooming gangs" instead of "child abuse in a pizza restaurant".
I wonder how long it will be until Pakistani men start eating pets.
... despite the consumption of dog or cat meat being haram.
Simple solution. Starmer bans x.
Banning never works, twitter is dying no need to give it a lifeline.
Nah. Bigger picture. Musk is using X and his money to steal control of our government. You just saw it happen in America. Let's not make old mistakes repeat.
Banning doesn't work, twitter is dying. Despite all the noise the Tories and Reform Party Ltd have 126 seats, they represent a loud mouthed minority. 524 seats were won by mainly centre and centre left parties.
No need to actually ban it at all. What Kier should be doing is directing all govt departments and Labour MPs to stop posting on there in an official capacity. Close the accounts if necessary. I bet many EU nations would follow the lead. Maybe a petition is needed to start the debate?
Pfft It's a fascist bullhorn. A propaganda network sowing foreign influence and misinformation. AND IT WORKS. Have you not noticed?😞
Indeed, the similarities between Hitler and the Nazis and Trump/Elon and his administration are frightening.
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Why are the media all over this now and not over the last 14 years? I've heard more about the grooming gangs in the last couple of weeks than I have in over a decade. What's changed?
Elon Musk, possibly inspired by the upcoming Online Safety Bill.
I can’t believe what I have just heard Carol Malone say on JVine, the way she ‘congratulated! Musk and sneers when she says Jess Phillips’ name. WHY are we not calling out the people like her, they are the real enemy within!
She’s bloody awful, just a foghorn of bigotry, her and that Pearson hag.
Dont give that programme your viewing figure.Its a pathetic show since matthew wright left
No I don’t normally. Lesson learned!
She’s dreadful , always has been . Just a big gob, that’s all .
It baffles me why people tune in to listen to this shit 🤷♂️
I wasn’t really, I was surfing the channels and she was on shouting about something or other. I don’t watch JV out of principle. On another note she was a Johnson supporter when he was exposed for saying the child abuse enquiry was like spaffing money against a wall!
It baffles me that they even have the platform/exposure. It all comes back to the media, they are the ones platforming the nutters as serious people! Infuriating.
Know your enemy!
And Jess Philips is a tireless advocate who has been asking for action about this for years. "https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2024-01-16/debates/0bfc689d-f6c3-4a65-b6c6-a8a076c22f6a/CriminalJusticeBill(EighthSitting)?highlight=groom#contribution-681CCCCC-4BD3-4C81-9A73-E4744ADDCD8F"
"a year on from the child abuse inquiry—not one of whose recommendations, I think it is fair to say, has yet come to fruition. Well, hope springs eternal for this year! "
"There are plenty of recommendations for the Government to crack on with in this regard, & I look forward to seeing some sort of timeline from the HO of any progress in that particular area" The hypocrisy form the Tory party is astounding.
Shameless
Robinson interviewing Robert Jencunt yesterday on this topic was a classic. He basically called Jencunt a lying cunt without using the cunt.
Just like all the scum supporting Hitler prior to WW2
It’s information warfare.
We all know they care not for truth, the only thing they are interested in is stirring the shit. Where are the media headlines calling out the lies?
ABSOLUTELY 💯 Jess Phillips must be given round the clock protection.
I think you’ll find she already does. It shows how passionate she is about what she does as an MP, her life and that of her family must be quite restrictive
Great man, Andrew Norfolk: reported on 'grooming gangs' in cities and in private schools for the Times with such determination in the face of push-back from all the institutions that should care for children first. Is he on here?
It’s almost as if the people attacking Jess are on the side of the abusers, which could explain why they want to further delay action to protect women and girls.
They do seem to side with Tate...
AKA - projection
My thoughts exactly. There may be other things to look into but that is no reason to not start taking action. I am very suspicious of people who want to delay action and wonder what is in it for them.
Do you know, that’s exactly what crossed my mind!!
wasnt it #starmer that blocked prosecution of full time pervert rapist necrophiliac #savile ?
All this discussion, here and in Parliament. All because Musk said that. It's insane. He's sat in a K hole somewhere (mar la go) giggling with mirth at the power he wields.
And it was Boris Johnson who referred to the enquiry as ‘£60million spaffed up the wall’
Shame it's not amplified very much. Starmar should've referred to it at PMQs today.
It’s clear that these people have now fully realised the very large number of gullible and ill-informed people out there who only read headlines and have no interest in anything further.
James, perhaps you could mention Humza Yousaf, former first Minister of Scotland? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humza_Y...
That’s reform and the Tory party
They were pushing these lies about Starmer long before Musk started repeating them. Knowing they are deliberately lying is meaningless when their supporters don't care that they're lying.
The most shameless, unprincipled race to the bottom I can recall.
When the band waggon is being driven by the world's richest men every grifter and morally bankrupt politician will want to jump on.
And it was 'Tommy Robinson' (who is only relevant because Musk is fanboying over him) who attempted to disrupt the trial of one of the gangs, and could have set them free. While of course, he ignored completely the paedophilia within his own EDL.
Excellent interview with Mr Norfolk tonight on Radio 4 (Sorry James!) Perhaps people like Badenoch and Musk could get their bloody facts right before spouting such garbage just because they don’t feel that they’re getting enough attention. They’re disgusting people.
They know the facts. But it’s the made up stuff that suits their agenda. Truth isn’t a priority for them.
Waiting for EM to take a swipe at China!
Right wing billionaires oligarchs are allowed to own 80%+ of MSM, so it is their narrative that's told and inevitably, truth struggles to be heard. This isn't entertaining, people's lives are being played with. Ban billionaires from buying politicians and media.
I suspect that Musk will soon be to Trump what Cummings was to Johnson. Remember to keep receipts from every opportunist MP and the misguided parts of the media when that happens. Until then, I just hope we find a way to stop turning up the volume on what Musk is saying…
Just ignore him until the skeletons come out of his closet. He is not worth the cognitive bandwidth until then.
Mislead the public….. like you never joined in the smear against a certain LOTO?
If anyone want to read the results of a comprehensive inquiry detailing the many failings of institutions and individuals that led to industrial scale child abuse see this. It won’t suit the far right agenda, but it’s independent, detailed and accurate. www.gov.uk/government/p...
It's also important to note that those amplifying the lies are gaming the terms of any enquiry. They don't want a long-overdue enquiry into child abuse in the UK. They want a high profile enquiry confined to looking at abuse by "Pakistani males". A witch hunt in other words.
the eternal grift of lying racist far right grifters is infinite threadreaderapp.com/thread/17979...
How do counter this? Or is that a futile exercise?
Shame nobody was interested in correcting him when he was spreading lies about trans people.
Maybe Starmer could mention this and be (audibly) a little angrier in the Commons today against those who are seeking to belittle him. There's nothing wrong with raising one's voice in a good cause and voters like it.
Emotionally I am with you, but there’s too much anger as it is. We need more civil debate, more calm engagement in discussion from the other side. Anger just feeds the Meta and X algorithms what they want. Starmer is right to be measured: his job is to engage the whole country, not you and me.
He forgets he's not in a courtroom where decorum rules. He's a politician and needs to act like a man in the right and use his voice loudly and accurately put down stupidity
Yes. Honesty, accuracy and dignity are essential but a bit of "Oomph!' every now and again can work wonders. 🤔
They don’t care about the truth only that a willing media will amplify their message without thought.
I despair of the bulk of journalists, the BBC, and Tory politicians like Badenough and "Honest" Bob Jenrick for amplifying the misinformation and lies. It's f'in' outrageous.
On BBC’s Today program they had a guest who went through all the statistics and explained that the “Asian gangs” were a small percentage of the problem (and even then, they were mostly within families). The next few interviews all started with “what do we do about this problem of Asian gangs” 🤦
That's it right there. Nobody interested in actually understanding the issue just happy to grasp a sensationalist anti-muslim trope
I’m all FOR libertarians learning who the tech bro MAGAs really are.
Time to ban X
Not to mention a certain glorified football hooligan made his name from barging into these very prosecutions acting like there was some big cover-up because we have reporting restrictions from not isolating our jurors. I distinctly recall his actions causing more than one case to be thrown out.
It feels like a new low to play these particular political games
@sophyridge.bsky.social @bethrigby.bsky.social @samcoatessky.bsky.social How about talking to Andrew Norfolk on this?
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James can you look into why we can’t seem to leave X? I’ve been trying daily for over a month and it seems I can’t despite repeated requests to Support
I had that problem. I had to sign out. Try and sign back in, select 'forgotten password'. Go through all the security checks. After two or three times I managed to delete my account. You are far from the only one. I knew what my password was. Mine was months ago. Shame it's still ongoing for a few
Thank you, I tried what you said, but made no difference, support said because I’d changed password it would take a while, but it’s been over a month 🤬
And make sure your details such as phone number before you sign out.
It won't let you do it if you've reset your password recently.
I did it a month ago, still the same problem 🤷🏻♀️
Boo. Looks like Lonnie is terrified of the Xodus!
sorry but Natasha C was appalling just now - her nastiness is always bubbling just below the surface. she's just a cheap Kuenssberg.
And if they're on Twitter, probably mostly not even real clicks, just the sad echoes of bots and the occasional meaningless grunt or howl of the trolls.
It was the inheritance tax last week. Grooming gangs this week. Wonder what the headline theme will be next week ?
Chris Mason at the BBC is the highest profile culprit. A liar by omission in every news item he does
But when Starmer reminds Badenoch her response is “ it’s not all about you” That playground response says it all really!
And they know why Phillips wants local councils to take the Telford approach versus a National enquiry. AND that the Tories had years to implement the recommendations from the Jay report and did nothing. I went to bed in tears last night after listening to Jess Phillips on newsnight - for shame
Me too. I was so moved by her raw passion for the work she does and her dignity in the face of such vileness.
For most of them - they hate her because her accent is “wrong”
Angela Rayner has the same issue, and Rachel Reeves.
Yep. It’s so blatant. How dare the working class lift their heads above the parapet!
I suspect misogyny has a part to play too.
I think it would be idiotic to not consider that, look at the voting records of the people who are attacking Jess Phillips, Rayner and Reeves, they're not exactly respectful towards women.
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Lies crush truth with alarming ease - we are descending into very dark & dangerous times. Regulation of the press and social media is essential, banning non-dom billionaires with conspiracy-driven agendas from owning outlets. Journalists who spread lies or incite hate should face legal consequences.
Have you read the rantings of Lozza Fox, Dan Wootton and the other Musk fruit loops on social media?
100% agree, they have zero interest in the actual victims. Musk’s only previous mentions of paedophiles ended up with him having to pay substantial damages to an innocent man.
This is never mentioned about Musk. Tesla, SpaceX but never his despicable behaviour over the boys who were stuck in the cave & their rescuers.
Why do you mever mention your mate Ferarri when pointing out the liars and misinformation people
Just because two people work for the same company doesn't mean they are necessarily "mates".
Well, maybe LBC have a social media policy covering the slagging off of the company and its employees. Fairly standard stuff.
Thought Obrien was a man of morality.If he refuses to condem Fararri hes adding to the problem
Kinda have to agree with Cromm here as I’ve thought the same re ferrari. James has called out other presenters in the past, but it seems the admiration he holds for Nick prevents him calling him out. Think there’s a bit of nostalgia for someone he once looked up to as a journalist.
They don’t want progress. These issues (boats, hotels, gangs…..) are assets they can use to stir up a proportion of their base. Without them what have they got?
Couldn't agree more. The trouble with the tories ( dare I say some labour as well) is they don't seem to enter politics to change or improve things. It's a self serving exercise to better theor own situation. It's politics as a battle to keep power rather than politics to make the country better.
Ooo James I have been screaming to the radio for the last 15 y..because I been seeing this with experience from a dictatorship I have been screaming at you sometimes.....but I do wish now is not to late You have been my mental comfort in this madness 🙏
Just listening to Andrew Norfolk on Radio 4. Sobering stuff.
Asked it a million times, if they're really the good guys, why do they lie incessantly?
The tories are not bothered, just keep telling the country that keir Starmer is a bad person, his policies up to now have failed and his government is the worst in all history, just like trump and the republicans have done in the USA for the past twelve years!
James - grill as many callers on your show about feminism and jailing more men - you’re going to realise it’s all about far right obsession with hurting Pakistani’s for the sake of it. How about jailing more men in uni for sexual assaults too? Why not help more women in all stages of life?
Should call the far right’s bluff and jail more men of all ethnicities for crimes against women. If they actually care about women (which they don’t) they would support feminist initiatives. Not had a single response on here by right wingers about supporting women’s rights. Just hurting Pakistanis.
Have you seen this? www.wired.com/story/meta-i...
Truth means nothing if yiu have a million bots repeating the lies
Yep a lie is half way around the world before the truth puts his pants on.
And so many of our citizens are unable or unwilling to find out what are facts and which are lies
#uk cops politicians #msm have spent decades covering up vast child abuse so a national inquiry is a 100% must
We're fully in the world of 1984 now, James. With Zuckerburg also now trampling over objective facts, that truth is somehow mutable, just as Musk has already done. The world has got far darker and more dangerous, in the last week alone, than at any point I can remember. It's utter dystopia.
They have been happy to politicise such horrific crimes for years now. They are happy to say they stand for victims now but did nothing when their own colleagues preyed on young men.
You could also include BBC journalists (loose use of the definition I know) on their live feed.
Using victims as nothing more than tools to beat the brown men they hate.
I strongly recommend you watch last nights Newsnight with Victoria Derbyshire interviewing Jess Phillips. It was simply electric.
Enablers of hate.
We’re at the point now of hoping Trump fucks him off….
Hi James, I’ve decided to make the move from Faceache after Zuckerboy’s ridiculous decision. We are now witnessing, Trump’s future playbook. Following on from Hitler, he is controlling the narrative as did the former when he made Der Stuermer the only permissible source of news in nazi Germany.
I suspect other U.S news outlets will be censored, or bullied into agreeing with him. Which is ironically against free speech which is supposedly close to Americans’ hearts. I don’t support much of what China does, but could it be the only solution is to block X and Facebook in UK as they did?
And what may I ask is the leader of the conservative party doing when she backs up what Musk is saying? They had been in power all through that scandal and did nothing. And why is she not condemning Musk, when he's calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government.
These “RW politicians, pundits and online grifters” are themselves a danger to children as they are very deliberately spreading misinformation and lies that make the task of good government even harder…shame on them all
For every politician, pundit, and journalist providing facts, Musk has 1000's of virtual brownshirts shouting them down with salacious lies and abuse. We're in uncharted territory.
maybe send this to your colleagues at @lbc.co.uk
Great news for MAPs
I’ve just listened to the #NewsAgents podcast interview with Mr Norfolk. A very powerful and informative interview with a man who is extremely frustrated with what is going on at the moment. The behaviour of Musk, Farage, Badenoch, Jenrick etc is disgraceful and dangerous
I agree, nobody knows more than Mr Norfolk on this subject, if you want to inform yourself of the facts then this edition of the NA is a must listen, unfortunately those spouting the far right lies and those that parrot them won’t or more likely don’t want to know the truth.
The Blyline Times podcast with Starmer’s biographer is also informative podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/b...
Thank you. I’ll take a listen
Tories and Reform want Elmo's $$$, to have a war chest and enrich themselves and their cronies. To them the end justifies the means.
Andrew Norfolk is an absolute hero and should be a knight of the realm
A brilliant piece. Very informative, honest, and frightening. The behaviour of so many agencies, it's appalling. At least someone out there knows the truth.
When you get older obviously you should be wiser and you'r gut feeling is deeper My gut say's we are in deep trouble if Badanoch Farage get anywhere near power and the very wealthy people they endorse Trump is another
No one has mentioned that after 12:00 am, UK population including kids with TVs in their bedroom get get free access to porn on adult channels. This doesn’t happen anywhere I have been to in the world. What is wrong with our country?
Wait until you hear about ‘the internet’ 🙄
TV is easier to access
lol, I guess you’re not familiar with young people! (Not that any of this is relevant to the issue at hand).
What’s happening with X & Meta is worrying! Government’s need to understand that they are Trojan Horses, embedded in their societies and being used to coerce & brainwash their populations. Worryingly the road to fascism is lined with people telling you to stop overreacting.
Someone should ask Musk how’s his daughter….
They know but they don't care because most people will not bother to look for the truth. We live in dystopian times but I hold out hope for humanity.
A great podcast that gives insight into Space Karen’s thin skin & obsessive retaliation: www.tortoisemedia.com/listen/elons...
The "dark skinned men raping your white daughters" trope is a reliable device to gin up nativist anger. Musk is using this cynical tactic to promote his favored politicians in the U.K, while importing brown men to replace white workers in his businesses.
Well, sorry to break it to you, but your estimeed colleague Nick Ferrari is too of the list of poisonous toads. I was swearing at the radio on my drive this morning. Had to change station.
Correct ive mentioned this but james will never add his name to the list
Unfortunately there are these things called contracts. Slagging off a colleague (no matter how toad-like) is, I suspect frowned on by their employers
True. But he doesn't shy slaggibg off other people who occasionally appear on LBC.
As you quite rightly say “occasionally”. Might be a bit different from contracted.
I switch off between 7-10am can’t stand it anymore.
I'm sure Nige will be all over this fact once he's had a chat with his own expert on the subject matter to firm up a few little details.
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Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story .. or in this case a deliberate attempt to destabilise the UK government. Notwithstanding the abhorrent topic … I don’t expect he’s working alone as it seems to be a targeted attack from him and his cabal. Would it have happened to Tory government?
