
Kemi going to sign up then?
Kemi going to sign up then?
The trouble is, she won’t be interviewed by anyone who’ll pick her up on this bilge.
We don't want the visual imagery of Bad Enoch on her knees, thanks.
There is no need.
Doing a copycat on Vance's imbecilic speech, after last PMs questions, she on her way out, so nothing to lose.
People find comfort in strange ways,human trait sadly.
With great difficulty!!
Another Tory promoted beyond their intelligence. So many who have never ever been told that what they think is actually embarrassing for normal people
Let's face it they have a small pool to draw from
If only she had any.
So kemi has decided to take a stand against trump and Vance by championing democracy and the idea that the leader of that democracy should follow its laws. (Haven’t read article, just the headline)
I could not possibly advise you take a huge dump on it.
Jesus. The Conservatives are no longed a serious political party.
What frightens me is that not being a serious political party *worked so well for the GOP*. That is fucking frightening.
That ended the moment Boris Johnson er-ah-er-wibble-wobbled his way into becoming PM.
They haven't been for at least 20 years.
Neither are the Republicans - still got elected. Cautionary tale.
Totally agree. Those of us who align with likes of James O’Brien can easily forget that this sort of dog whistle culture war nonsense chimes powerfully with millions of white working class and white over 65s (of all social strata), Brexit and the 2019 election proved that .
Yes😬
Either that or Musk fixed the election for Trump.
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Are they still flogging that same old horse? Honestly, how many times? It's been a daily tune since 2016, and for a short, Brexity while, people actually believed it. By now, it makes everyone yawn. I know I did just reading this.
You don’t have to, it does it all by itself.
1: Policy meeting. Kemi is pushing for swastikas/uniforms. 2: Kemi can't stop giving Nazi Salutes until an aide rushes in with an injection. 3: The corpse of Margaret Thatcher returns in a Dalek chair and dispenses advice which is always Exterminate. Easy. If you have a platform.
4: going through Pastor Niemoller's warning ticking off the scapegoats. 5: Campaign meeting: "lie, lie, lie". It kinda Far-rights itself.
Of course. Kemi would never bend the knee for Black Lives Matter. Why would she?!
Isn't the Daily Mail a satire of itself?
Wish Andrex would stop printing on their product.
"You have to stand and fight.....", just imagine they have someone writing this guff for her to read out to a "reporter" who that prints it's without even thinking about what it says for "readers" to hoover it up. It's a chain of world class herbertry.
The way the right is moving, it won't be long until she'll be having to front up to questions about whether she supports her own UK citizenship.
What actual use is this though?
They keep slavishly trumpeting each successively dire Fascist Tory leader as if they are Churchill when none of them are fit to wipe John Major’s shoes … and he was no brainbox but at least he had a few morals.
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The only ' mob' is hers, and her minority clique. So blatantly attempting to copy the story line of pino Trump
At least two stops beyond barking.
Might actually be Upminster Depot.
It’s illegible to London Terminals for £13.
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I think this is why they cancelled mock the week. There is no longer a need.
I preferred it when the ‘experts’ did it. This amateur stuff just isn’t funny 😉
She is beyond belief.
Defend Western values? Yet she's happy for the orange one to run the US like the Taliban? 🤢
On it's face it's just anti Muslim. But what she ACTUALLY means is that we ought to be more tolerant of nazis.
Imagine having your dead mom’s face slapped below that
A thinly veiled attack on Muslims?
The Daily Mail front page generator strikes again coyoteproductions.co.uk/silly/dmhg/
Wild West...ern values And we all know who her sheriff is.
They can come to America. There are plenty of available MAGA incels that are still living in their mother's basement.
Pop it in the bottom of the kitty litter box for a few days, then post pictures of it. "This came in handy when the cat litter ran out the other day"
Then her mate Don should get off his knees when he’s… checks notes… “negotiating” with Putin. Is that what you kids are calling it now? Is he good at “negotiating”? Can he deep “negotiate“?
Western values? FFS what’s wrong with British ones? Oh - they’re the same? No? Which? Are they Mild & Green? Better by Design? Apples & Pears? Tear Along Dotted Line? Random Words? Utter Codswallop? FML.
Nazis have no self awareness, or sense of irony. They do project ... their own weakness
Western Values = Supporting mass murder, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, collective punishment and starvation.
It really is time action was taken to free our press and media. Freedom of the press? Not when it's owned by billionaires with fascist sympathies.
There's a reason the header uses that typeface y'know.
But...but...Douglas Murray just explained that Badenoch isn't really British. Conservatives are so confusing!
The Daily Heil? It's not bad as a firelighter. Problem is you have to hide it in a porn mag so you're not ashamed of buying it. Anyone who reads this is just looking for their next hate target.
Why does this garbage publication still exists?
You don’t? Everyone ignores her would be a good plan. And she can get more batshit trying to get attention until eventually she creates a rift in the space time continuum and vanishes into it.
So..let's get this one straight then. They believe we are in a fight against being decent, upstanding folks that resent bullies and just want to get on with life without pointless witch-hunts? I've seen my share of wierd, but this is on another level. How do we even rationalize that one? 🙃
I know this is a long shot, but erm, y'know how we tend to live in a world of shared definitions for our reality to work? Last time i checked, a socially traditional value isn't that of going on some dumbass crusade to mess the world up. Guess they ain't conservatives.
Sadly, the Daily Heil hasn't improved since they supported the fascist blackshirts in the 1930s. They rely on FUD and barely disguised racism to keep their readers buying the rag. It is time to resurrect the Leveson 2 inquiry, and broaden its remit to investigate the low standards of the UK press.
'Free speech is under threat' as our good mate Elon Musk - unelected fascist in charge of dismantling US institutions - has just said that journalists should be arrested because he didn't like an interview. Impossible to satirise; and impossible to rationalise with people who believe this shite.
My mum has bought into all of it since she discovered YouTube over covid. She WILL NOT listen to reason even though she used to be pretty intelligent and open minded. She now totally believes Michelle Obama is a man, when I try to tell her she says Im woke. When I say what does woke mean, she can’t.
Sorry to say this but welcome to how us sane people felt in the USA 10 years ago. I don't know how to stop it, but hopefully your people can take what's going on here as a view into where they are headed if they follow nonsense like this.
It makes it easier for me to comprehend what’s going on over there. But it’s still Incomprehensible to me how tf there’s so many of them.
Targeted media for decades. Buying radio stations focused in very rural farming areas, playing nothing but fox News at military stations, looking the other way when extremist evangelical churches started using sermons to demonize any left leaning social issue, getting small power in local politics..
I can't imagine how tough that would be. I'm sorry that she fell into the rabbit hole, I hope one day you get your mom back. 🙏💪🐾💖🐾
Something will have to first happen negatively to her personally in regards to right wing fascism first I’m afraid. I think that time might be closer than I’d like.
I'm totally with you on our timeline, and it really does scare me.
I genuinely feel for you. It’s horrible. I’m in a similar position with my parents. They reside completely in an echo chamber and any attempt to counter the nonsense is usually met with verbal aggression. I’m at a loss. We just try not to talk about it, but I do worry for them.
Trying not to talk about it is the worst because it seemingly infiltrates every aspect of life. Without anyone explicitly saying we’ve gravitated towards text conversations instead of chatting on the phone, in person it’s not so easy. It’s legitimately mad it’s come to this, things are so different
I wish I had the answers. I don’t. I’m working it out the best I can. It’s so difficult, I genuinely feel for you but in a really perverse way it is nice to know it isn’t just me dealing with this.
I then asked them if they thought anti-vaxers ignore the science because they don’t like being told what do. I could see the cogs turning when I asked that. I asked for the evidence on vaccines and infertility, they had none, I asked a few more questions and by the end they had backtracked a lot.
I know. I avoid it because I don’t like conflict. But then they’ll say something totally insane and I can’t let it slide. I told them last time I don’t have issue with them having a different opinion to me, but I do not accept them having alternative facts.
“But then they’ll say something totally insane and I can’t let it slide.” You’re basically me except that my dad doesn’t give a shit.
Sadly, I suspect there are probably lots of us.
If she *ever* asks you to do tech support for her, start using parental controls on her phone, router, and TV to block the sources. If her water was poisoned, we'd install filters. At this point, we need to take care of the mental health of the elderly, and take steps to deradicalize them.
I was hoping she’d come to better conclusions herself in recent weeks but it seems she’s doubled down and even done a 180 and loves Musk now too, she didn’t last month, and said “good!” regarding the Nazi salute. She’s now supporting Russia. It’s a lost cause Im afraid, severe YT brainworms sadly.
I`m so sorry to read this, it must be upsetting. Radiacalised by YT and FB seem to be incredibly common issues faced by families. Populism tells them its ok to lose family and friends. There is no educating out of this, its based on feels.
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It’s just so exhausting when she disregards the evidence she can see in front of her (insert quote). Let’s see where these latest deception from Maga takes us hopefully she’ll see the light. She’s been mostly pissed off at me since I sent her Elon’s Nazi salute photo. 😩
Sorry for late reply, that must be really difficult. After a decade working with seniors I can say that they love a mystery. Analysing the claim and looking up its origins did help. www.sciencedirect.com/science/arti...
I think if you’ve been conned, it’s really hard to admit it, especially to yourself. It’s easier to pretend you haven’t been a mark and carry on regardless, or even double down. Even if you know you’ve been duped, confronting it would mean admitting you were had.
Honestly that's why I think it's more effective not to go at it head on, but to turn down the flood of poison slowly.
She's in a cult. I guess the questions are, do you love her, did she love you when you were young, and what would she have done if you were taken into a cult? Then do what makes sense with that information. If she's reluctant to learn the truth, she's unlikely to learn how to override a filter.
Last time we got together in person she sobbed uncontrollably when I tried to get her to see reason saying, “you always have to be right”. She thinks im a far left loony, woke socialistic just because I despise what MAGA stand for. I do love her and she raised me well so it’s exasperating
It sounds awful. How about not waiting to be asked? Log into YouTube with her passwords and very slowly, like once a week, block the accounts, smaller to larger. Tell her you've heard "they're" cracking down on disinformation.
There’s nothing I can do, I don’t live near her and my family are apathetic. Thanks for the advice though but this one will have to play out to the conclusion. I’ve tried hard for 8 years.
Also, I wouldn’t do that anyway because even though she is being spoon fed disingenuous information, it’s still her choice to consume that sort of stuff just like it’s my choice to find the truth.
This is not entirely the case: we become responsible for our elderly more and more when they become mentally compromised. Will you let her keep driving when she's a danger to herself and others, because it's her choice? With fascism arriving, the stakes are much higher and clearer.
That's my point. If you can't get to her equipment, but can get her Gmail login, you can indeed deradicalize. You don't need to be near her. But of course, no one's making you do anything. Best of luck.
She's as desperate for attention as Truss and about as competent
😂😂😂 I cannot believe they run with that!!
I'm terrified that some people actually believe the idiotic drivel the Wail print.
Was just reading this as you groaned down the radio - timing perfection
While kowtowing to Israel and Russia? Make it make sense.
Badenoch makes herself less relevant every time she opens her mouth.
Daily fail at it again.
◻️ Um, ah, oh, yes....thas a cracker! "And what western values would those be West African?" As far as we are able to tell at Bluesky Armchair Experts & General Know-Alls (Dorking Branch), she's seems to be promoting white nationalism of a kind her loony-right brethren in the US espouse.
How stupid does she think the reformists are if she thinks shite like that will get them on board?
What planet does she live on? What actually are western values? Didn't starmer purge the left wing from Labour? Where have all the grown-ups gone from public discourse in Britain?😮🙄
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The Press just seem to want to highlight loonies these days.
This is pretty much the face of conservatives world wide isn't it? Impotent & clueless but loud & obnoxious. The ONLY thing they stand for is to wield power.
If I had a vote, I'd vote for Kemi Badenoch. I was on the London Overground yesterday and it was all everyone was saying: “There are just too many people on their knees these days, aren't there?”
When she talks about fighting for Western values does she mean like Randolph Scott in High Noon?
Unfortunately, she doesn't understand Western values, or she wouldn't have hacked a politicians website when she was an IT wan*** . Last time I looked, that was a crime.
And with everything going on in the world, nevermind this country...THAT'S their front page headline?
Some people are very adept at writing with a crayon up their backside.
White values huh🤔😏
I really don't know. She certainly can't read the room. Quite frankly, I'd probably be happier with Keir Starmer if he appeared to be pushing any kind of left-wing agenda.
Ugh. Anyone who claims to be 'fighting woke ideology' is a joke who should not be let anywhere near a position of power. I've never been a Conservative voter, but I swear they used to at least be a serious party.
According to Dougie Murray, she can never be British because she's the child of immigrants so what can she possibly know about 'Western values'? Unless he's spouting bigoted shite, of course.
The left would really like having some influence on Starmer. For the tories, if it ain’t far right, it must be left then!
It's the old problem: Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it.... but at some point we do have to put our wrestling boots on ... counting on you James
It is self-satarising. It is cargo-cult politics: it is rhetoric without a wider awareness.
She is such an embarrassment- what were they thinking of when they elected her? She’ll be gone by the end of the year.
"Why Daily Mail Fans Like Our Writers Need Britain Back In The 50's (19 or 18)" more like...
Those who consume its content are, in turn, also poisoned.
Oh dear. Someone's forgotten to press 'reset' on her again. It spouts nonstop GB News if not regularly restarted.
It is the ultimate “ Turkey calls for Christmas “ . What an absolute feckin mess
Well, it’s true the Tories are on their knees. And we know what half of them are doing there…
What a load of Premier League Bollocks !!! 🤦♂️
You can't. There's a Russian tank parked in Badenoch's drive, and all she wants to talk about are pronouns, bathrooms, and the 'freedom' to destroy the planet.
They've really lost their collective minds this week. Page after page of nonsense written by tax exiles by their pool.
What is she talking about?
Very bold to speak to US politicians about Free Speech with their censorship of press and scientists, Free Markets with their massive new tariffs, and the Rule of Law with Felon 47 releasing insurrectionists and riding roughshod over courts and constitution.
Is she paid by Tufton Street I wonder?
Western Values? Interesting juxtaposition of the two front page stories 🤔
Trump values,she means.
Her recent intervention on migration gained no traction whatsoever...so this is the Mail's latest attempt...Then Trump cosies up to Putin and they all look bloody clueless
She’s another stable genius
He's upsetting the left, he's upsetting the right. He's must be doing something right.
Fear of the Gargoyle Farage.
I’ll take ‘Satire Is Dead’ for $50, please James.
James when you do find out who you should be fighting don’t panic just remember to believe a bit more 🤷🏽♀️🤷♀️
Really like to know which newspaper this gentleman got his information from....🤦♀️ bsky.app/profile/tens...
How are these people allowed to not be in secure keeping?
He should go and live there if it’s so bad?
Wow. I bet people fight to buy him a drink when pops down to the local. Some of them might not spit in it.
What have we learned about the use of language as a weapon to denigrate, devalue and dehumanise? These aren't newspapers they are propaganda. At some point the architects of this strategy to divide and radicalise people should be accountable for the consequences.
Is she aligning the Conservatives with Reform PLC ready for being assimilated by them or trying to out do Reform?
values aren't what they used to be
Am dreading this being regurgitated by my octogenarian in-laws at the weekend.
Daily Fail scoop. So nothing is happening in Riyadh or Gaza. Kemi's trite words make front page news. FFS commonsense!
Problem is , she hasn’t got a real job . Too much time on her hands. If she were gainfully employed , she wouldn’t have time for all this fantasy/conspiracy crap 🙄
What - or who - is she on her knees for ? Horrid mental image .
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The Mail is mainly 'read' by geriatric Nazis. That demographic needs to go and join uncle Adolph ASAP.
'Kemi'. Hell's teeth The Mail is beyond rescue. How you can adorn this unhinged loon with a name bordering on affection escapes me. Badenoch will be sectioned before she gets elected.
Yep, Western values originating in the East in a Moscow troll farm
I must be missing something. I thought British values were the epitome of civilisation.But now it appears that British values have become Western values which have become aligned with Russian values which have never been aligned with British or Western values.But it all makes perfect sense to Kemi.
It sounds like a Chat GPT answer to. What would a populist say was under attack in the West.
If she had a second brain cell she'd be twice as stupid.
@mrjamesob.bsky.social - you often ask what Woke means. It's equally good (if not better) to ask what anti-Woke means. Because if you dig far enough it means fascism. Same with anti-DEI which literally means being anti-Diversirty and against equality/equity and inclusion...
Also Badenough - Western values means bending over to Russian imperialism.
The Daily Mail! Is there a sillier newspaper? Worthless garbage and right wing propaganda the Beano for Tory Wives….
Now is this Kimi working class or middle class speaking
Poisonous woke ideology?!!! WTAF? 🤡🤯
The traitorous nazi lover Jonathan Harmsworth, 4th viscount of Rothmere and Daily Mail owner, is publishing anti-British propaganda daily, he's probably on Putins payroll.
Rage, rage against the dying of the... whatever, summink or nuffin 🤪
I would say it's prime for a comedy club, but sadly, this is so serious that it's the beginning of Trump tactics
Just reminds me of the lettuces' book
She also said only the Tory's can save the West. She can't even save herself or her party
That's because the conservatives values of rule of law, democracy, royalty and patriotism has been kicked to the grass by themselves to the highest back handed bidder (see news of who they approach). They're not about British politics or the UK. A game to see who can fool the rest of us?
Echoing Vance and joining the US in its attack on liberal democracy. At least she’s made her choice clear.
The Tories made their choice long since:- Fascism
Pretty sure it’s the wrong (for her) choice politically. Gotta hope so anyway.
Why do you think so
Some things really are beyond satire . It’s joyous and breathtaking at the same time . Watching the talking heads of the shadow cabinet as they watch the slow implosion of their party , which way will they jump , and where will they land ?
Hi James I personally find adjudicating War or Peace to be quite enlightening. The hawks are shouty, sweary, tunnel visioned, angry The Doves are far more quiet, too quiet, like the proverbial calm before the storm. You should play!
The most uncivilised among us appear to be banging on about defending Western values all of a sudden. Muppets.
As LOTO (she's the 6th Tory leader in 15 years!) Badenoch has access to national security information. Not sure with the world in crisis this is safe, sensible. Is Badenoch, like Farage & his rebadged, still racist Reform Party, a Trump/ Musk cheerleader and as such, politically, the enemy within.
According to one of her own, Douglas Murray, she’s not even truly British
Satire as a genre is dead when life outpaces it!
Well I'll listen in eagerly for you to do so👂😂👂
Gather all the copies of the facist supporting rag and chuck em on a bonfire!!
Time for Bad Enoch to take the knee
At first I thought “I’m impressed they’ve managed to avoid using ‘woke’ in the headline” and then…. “Oh look, it’s in the opening paragraph!” 🤣🤣🤣
What a blow. Job to end all jobs.
Western values. Take it this is the new terminology for being really right wing.
Just imagine if she had become PM,she'd now been negotiating with trump for us become a US state. Just how does someone whos parents were immigrants become so angry about others wanting what she has.
Which 'Western Values' would they be?
Way to go. The Tories have managed to transform themselves from the UK's dominant political party into an end-of-pier irrelevance in less than a decade.
Who have they been doing on their knees
Sorry what
Accusing the Leader of the Labour Party of being "cowed by a Left-wing mob" is akin to accusing the Pope of being influenced by Christianity. What does she not understand about the Labour Party and its traditional values? It defies belief that the LOTO could be so politically illiterate.
Pork, beef or Quorn?
Well Quorn is ‘woke’, so probably not that 😉
You don't. You just make sure those that spout it never get close to having the power to implement it.
Very harsh on mince
"adulterated mince" is what she would accept in a trump trade deal!
You don’t, you condemn it and those spouting it outright.
Precisely whose western values does she allude too? No doubt she’s been verbally over stimulated by J D Vance, the man who laid a wreath at Dachau one day and met the extreme right AfD leader the next.
This is almost Churchillian. What an orator. She’s “weaponised the English language and sent it into battle” I’ve forsaken the kneeling position, I’m quoting Henry V at Agincourt and I’m ready to fight. Point me at them. Who Kemi? Is it the French again? The dreaded Hun? Zulu?
It must be terrible to know that your few remaining customers are dying off rapidly
It’s self-satirising, we can only laugh (or cry) at it.
Could we define Western values? Where do we learn them? Her values are with culture wars in the West
They’re what they define them to be. It’s a marker that can be moved to suit a perspective. ‘Christian value’ , ‘British values’ , ‘Western values’. Are they compassion or Imperialism? Are they socially progressive or libertarian? It’s all just weasel word salad.
I hold extreme views on this. I want us to declare war on Russia, and cut all economic and diplomatic ties with any nation that so much as breaks wind in response. These views are utterly tame compared to the crazy notion that migrants fleeing for their lives are somehow the "real threat".
Quotation? or Instruction? Have not read it. Will not read it. Cannot read DER ANGRIFF!!!
Not possible I fear… 🤷♂️
Compare this with Ed Davey, who despite being an opposition politician, backed Starmer's troop decision to the hilt, and has been more vocal in his criticism of the Trump administration. Badenoch has chosen to side with the appeasers and collaborators.
Badenoch shared the stage with Jordan Peterson. … They’re afraid of pronouns.
Is the DM going to tell its readers what cahoots Trump and Putin are in? Or is this more propaganda by omission?
Just when we thought it couldn’t get worse than the lettuce and #Sewernak, I give you the Badenoch mince!
The circumstances of her birth in the UK is pretty shady. Mum comes over from Nigeria to give birth then returns. I really hope Kemi's birth did not take resources from our NHS. She is such a rank hypocrite. We should take the gloves off with this bunch of chancers.
She was born on 2 January 1980 in Wimbledon, London.Her mother had travelled from Nigeria to the UK to give birth in St Teresa's private hospital. 1/2
Before the British Nationality Act 1981 abolished automatic birthright citizenship for those born in the United Kingdom, and then returned to Nigeria shortly after Badenoch was born .
Absolutely true x her mum was health care tourist. And if Kemi enochpowell say a foriegner coming over to use the NHS and then fucking off back to their own country she'd cry bloody hell!....🙄
Wonder what right wing columnist Douglas Murray thinks of her calling herself British?
Starmer is proving a great Statesman.
Surprisingly, yes
Funny how she's not standing up for Ukraine. Too busy on her knees sucking off Putin and Trump. She's a fucking traitor.
What happened to 'Western values' when her party accepted so much money for support from the Russians? Why did they refuse to publish the 'Russia Report' backed by our security services?
It is satirical in itself, James. Badenoch is the gift that keeps on giving.
Also don't get me started on the "partner threw himself off a bridge" bollocks, he was the one who shot her dead. Fucking Daily Mail misogyny.
Nice little bit of "Kinder, Küche, Kirche" at the head of the page too.
Hurrah for the Brownshirts has come around again
I see right-wing chucklefuckery is alive and well in Britain. Say, how's Brexit working for you chaps?
I've stopped using the Mail in my sodden wet wellies as who has any use for two right footed boots?
Bring back the practice of wrapping fish and chips in newspaper
Makes them taste of hate and rage.
Today's Fish and Chip Paper!!
The sheer incompetence ....however strategically for the Tories it's not too damaging as they are already at the bottom of the well. She will be replaced after the next local elections
Does she want us to stand up and fight?
The Tories are completely irrelevant now. The Labour Party has filled the centrist void. As long as Reform keep running Labour will get in as Reform will split the hard of thinking right wing vote.
Kemi Badenoch reminds me more and more of this scene from The Simpsons
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Badenoch is trying to capture Reform voters that have fled the Tories. It’s unlikely to work as Reform will get ever more extreme to keep those voters. But presumably she saw what happened in the US and believes the same can happen here.
That's some other level of batshit crazy, right there!
Fighting 2 mythical monsters: 1. Fight #ANTIFA = vote for me because you love #fascists. 2. Fight #Woke = vote for me because you love #WhiteSupremacy Isn't she a brilliant politician? Not bottom of the barrel at all.
At this point it feels like she's just saying words now in sentences, hoping they'll make sense and vaguely political.
What has she been doing on her knees?
The Mail is having another hurrah for the Blackshirts moment. The lack of self awareness is as depressing as it is unsurprising.
If she wants us to stand up for the rule of law and is against aggressive bullying how is she allying herself with Donald Trump the lawbreaker and massive bully?
Meanwhile in the real world a possible hinge moment in geopolitical politics is happening yet no mention. How can you take this rag seriously!
Use your normal tactic. Ask her what Western values are. Sure she'd crumple like a cheap suit. 🤣