I switched over to BBC world service, I couldn’t bear to listen

Wouldn't it be nice if humans had an inbuilt reflex that made them ignore dimwits instead of elevating them to the lofty heights they lust after? All humans. Not just the nice ones.

I thought that as well. I wonder how long it'll take them to ditch her and find another one.

During last "govt" I asked "what is the difference between the Tories and fascists" and "why isn't the press doing comparitive analysis". Tories are little different from Reform/fascists. Labour far from different enough. Read before shooting messenger. johnhuwevans.wordpress.com/2024/11/27/f...

An angry monologue interrupted by the interviewer having the temerity to ask questions.

She rejects any possibility of having a likeable personality.

BadEnough isn’t answering anything. She’s talking over Emma B, on radio 4

Will Farage give her a job?

Farage is too busy giving Putin a different kind of "job".

To be fair, she's just being honest: most political interviews are treated as an excuse to crowbar in talking points, while avoiding the question that has been put. But there is something obtuse about how Badenoch has somehow managed to think that the questions aren't actually a part of the process.

She actually came across quite well on Matt Forde’s political party this week. She actually sounded human when she dropped the affected anger and rehearsed fake fury

Maybe she has been watching too much US politics.

embarrassing

I was with you when you said don't think of Kemi Badenoch

For those of us that didn't have the pleasure of hearing her interview, can we get a quick clip at 10am?

She also thinks she gets better every week at #PMQs

Trump levels of unfounded self regard. Somebody should tell her that you only say your morning affirmations to yourself. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ivx...

Because Mel from Plymouth told her and the media. Mel said it again on Peston last night. If this is better, she must have been 💩 at the start. Still 💩 from what I can see. Tories would have a leadership change, but only Rob, I chase people on the underground, wants it.

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I’ve seen her interviewed live. I can confirm. The biggest round of applause - by far - was for an audience member for her question.

Is anybody else noticing a new approach by, particularly, Tory and reform politicians when being interviewed? A sort of verbal gatling gun to pepper the interviewer!

They’ve been doing it for years. They managed to evade proper media scrutiny for years. This new government is being interviewed properly, whilst the Tories are generally still soft-soaped.

This.

Is there video? I need a good laugh.

BbcR4 today. She made a complete arse of herself.

Ah ok, cheers. Will give it a listen.🙏

It’ll make you weep. 🤪

It’s ok, got it. 1hr37 if anyone else needs their ears to bleed.😂

Today programme? Any idea of time?

this sounds like some post lunch listening! she's the best the tories have to offer. does anyone remember when the tories turned up with serious candidates? i'm almost longing for the sunak days. no. thinking about that; he was awful, too.

1hr37 The Today Programme. Words fail me.😂

that... that. was a train wreck. she was arguing with Emma Barnett, not being interviewed. was Badenoch even aware that she was being broadcast? an utterly petulant, childish, angry, rant. oh, i need to go for a short walk on the balcony and get some air. a plane eventually fell on the train...

I know “If I could just ask a question?” She is truly awful and I think it comes from a hugely inflated artificial opinion of herself. Clearly taking tips from the “just talk over the interviewer until it’s over” school of thought. Although that’s depressingly common now. Farage and Tice are Pro’s.

I wish politicians would have a sense of humility…

She has none, and no idea how to even fake it. Every exchange she has is an exhausting battle of her ego and her deep insecurities. Devoid of empathy and doomed to fail. I doubt she’ll make it to the next election. Merely a placeholder destined for Reform or a Podcast with Truss.

i wish they'd answer questions instead of "what you're really asking is...". i thought is was an excellent effort to interview her. it certainly doesn't incline me toward the tories.

John Major was sensible. But mocked as the grey suit bcs he wasn’t a bloated ego.

bob hawke and paul keating was the golden age in oz. hawke because he was a great orator and used to talking to unruly union crowds. keating because he was actually smarter than everyone else in the room, and would shoot down questions with facts and pure derision; interviewers or opposition!

If I were her, I'd keep as far away from any broadcasting studio as long as possible.

Only thing I learnt was the interviewers name ..maybe 2 as I learnt how much I dislike ms B

To quote Mel Stride: 'she'll get better with the media'. We just have to be patient with the poor thing.

Aye but she's getting better.

Can you blame her?

Well, given that the interview is the accepted method for a politician to disseminate their ideas and policies, and influence the public perception of their party, and it has been thus for decades, yes, I can blame her. Though she grew up in Nigeria, where they do things differently

My meaning was she's so terribly bad at being interviewed that you can't blame her for not being keen on the normal conventions of being interviewed.

Badenoch grew up in the USA.

Neither does Trump

She thinks she doesn’t gaff!!!

Her supporters think that is the way to have dialogue , you have spoken to enough of them over the years and heard colleagues banging desks and frothing at the mouth because someone dare question their facts or motives. British exceptionalism personified.

She’s rude, ignorant and clueless quite the combination!

Yep, she may well yet defect to Reform.

She's has Trussian levels of arrogance and detachment. It was an appalling car crash...make that motorway pile up.

Like every other hateful Tory.

How dare you question me!

Thinnest skinned politician ever. Is affronted by being asked questions.

Lots of righteous indignation from Bad Enoch. How dare you.

In recent years an interesting self serving elite has emerged on the right. They love the sound of their own voices, cannot accept others opinions and petulant and bordering on awful when they are made to look bad.

Emma Barnett was hopeless in trying to hold her to account

In fairness she couldn’t get a question in edgewise what with all her dithering and wittering on about labour. She came across as a bumbling nervous wreck trying to avoid questions of any substance

Tories. Always demanding to be showcased not shown up for what they are.

Badenoch seems to be continually not suffering fools gladly. Makes you wonder who the fool is.

It was her at her best and that's the problem. Every government needs an opposition to hold them to account. We have Badenoch's arrogant and delusional nonsense and Farage's lying bullshit, oh yes and Ed who makes no impact I can think of. Labour needs to sell a vision and people need to grow up.

Sure there is some anti Labour spin that they can put on it

She might accept it if Elon Musk organised one, she did do all that promotional work for him while assuring us he wasn't going to fund Reform. Is it beyond comprehension that the far right has spread itself across all of our parties because they are all behaving like it.

She's an empty vessel. Zero substance zero credibility

"We need to start talking about how we're going to fix this country...but I'm not here to tell how we're going to fix this country".

"How we are going to fix the damage we did" would be more honest

I'm not sure she accepts the premise of being party leader.

She has ‘answers’ & she’s going to get them out , regardless of the questions .

She can’t change setting once she’s been switched on.

She wants to talk about Y, how dare they ask about Z??!

Precisely 😂

Y is just a front

😂

Deserved better

I see what you did there! 😁

That’s pants

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Farage will be the next leader of the Conservative Party.

He already is, de facto. Labour need to start distancing themselves, too, after Starmer's uncharacteristically clumsy "island of strangers" speech

When is the year up, James?

This is what happens when someone's overt unpleasantness is taken for straight talking, no nonsense assertiveness. No politician should be celebrated, elevated, even promoted just for being a dick the way she has been. And now, the idiocy of that decision is bearing fruit because she is woeful.

I suspect she doesn't accept the impertinence either

- We would do things better! - How? - Not like that! - OK. But how would you do things better? - Are you stupid or something? I just said: NOT LIKE THAT!!!

Covering her ears and shouting “La la la”, to every question isn’t that far away

It's a car crash every time. I'm actually getting bored of her sticking her foot in her mouth, it's entertaining for a while but ultimately you long for someone with a bit of competence about them.

But she doesn't make gaffes she told us so.😆

Time for the lettuce?

“I’m not here to be interviewed about stuff I don’t want to talk about”. This morning on R4 Today it was abortion legislation.

What have I missed?

Did she start a fight with herself?

Interviewers set out to make you confess to mistakes and missteps. She never makes mistakes or gaffes*. Therefore she is saving the listener by avoiding such tedium * must be correct as she said so

She has no respect whatsoever for either the interviewers or the viewers/listeners. She is not engaged in an honest attempt to communicate, she is attempting to create an alternative reality in which she is relevant, competent and driving the agenda. She's fundamentally contemptuous of the audience.

I think in the mornings she has an argument with her toast and the toast wins. 'I have a plan but I'm not telling you if it's butter, jam or marmalade. But you can fuck off with your wokeness I'm not putting avocado on you.'

😂😂

‘British toast for British people’

This is perfect. In fact a perfect explanation of the current Tory philosophy.

Every time someone says a plan with Badenoch I always think

Does Emma Barnett? Cheap shot, maybe, but Christ!

I enjoy it when she gets annoyed by the interviewer.

She arrived annoyed. Nothing to do with Emma for once.

She gets annoyed if you mildly question her about anything. Strange for the leader of a political party.

She doesn’t do sandwiches She doesn’t do gaffs She doesn’t do humility

I don't accept the premise of Kemi Badenoch

When anger management is not addressed the consequences are a leader with nothing to say

I can't bear to listen to her any more.. switch off!

Same here.

I can’t listen to most politicians, sadly. The exception being Ed Davey as he actually seems quite nice, a rare trait in politics these days. Also he doesn’t have a shrill or whiny voice and he actually smiles & laughs sometimes, unlike most of the others.

Mel stride on sky rewriting history

Yes.. I agree- at least for the "main characters" who are often rolled out. There are some reasonable more junior ones, but they don't get much airing.

She only has heavy attack mode.

It was a ten car road wreck! Well done to Emma Barnett.

Her monologue was nearly as long as one of yours.

Sadly she was right in saying it is easy to win elections if you are prepared to lie.

Well if that's right how did Corbyn lose? According to virtually every media source everything he said was a lie I mean borrowing billions to improve our infrastructure whilst the cost of borrowing was at its lowest in 50 years and offering free broadband all according to everyone was a lie right?

But on your analysis he wasn’t lying.

It wasn't an analysis David It was a response to your claim.

Jeremy Corbyn would no doubt say that he was speaking the truth, while his critics were lying, and they won.

your point was that party's win elections by lying I pointed out to you Corbyn didn't win the election yet the country thought his promises were lies. Yet your opinion was that those calling him a liar won the election because they were lying? So I say no matter what Corbyn accused of lying lost

That’s the point, what Corbyn, said, true or false was not believed. Successful liars say what the audience wants to hear, wants to believe and believes it.

TBF There's only so many car crashes one person can endure.

She simply shouted her talking points over Emma without due regard...

seems OK on a Sunday morning.

Every comment I have read on the subject this morning has said what a disaster of an interview it was. Tory MPs will no doubt plot over the summer recess and Badenoch will be gone by the end of the year.

Not sure the talent pool amongst the Tories has expanded though 😳

Let’s hope they bring Johnson back. That would really kill them off 😂

I’m torn between having a useless Tory party but who are still the main opposition vs the rise of the contemptible’s that make up Reform although they are way off being the opposition. Maybe Ed D will overtake them all to form an opposition made up of decency?

Farage appeals to the flat-earther, anti-vax, anti-fact, climate change deniers who are growing at pace on platforms such as X, FB, TikTok etc. It’s a losing battle if nothing is done to introduce proper regulations and deal with media platforms who peddle in dis-information and lies (inc the BBC).

Agree. The written press seems totally in hoc to the right wing. BBC News used to be the go to broadcaster but it seems to be the Farage Fan Club now.

A good start might be to change the DG at the BBC.

Starmer will do it in his own way and at a time of his choosing. He doesn’t want to come across as getting rid of media people just because he does not like the way they report or considers them bias. That is what Trump is doing in the US before the world’s eyes.

Yes I guess slowly slowly from Starmer reduces the risk of unwarranted criticism.

Or they wait until close to the next election, to give the next leader less time to f*** up

Badenoch was never meant to be Tory leader and only got there through Tory MPs messing up the final round of voting. So I suspect she will be gone soon.

I hope not. I love watching her display her complete ineptitude every time she opens her mouth!

She is certainly a gift that keeps on giving 🫠

I encountered her in person at a wedding a few years ago when she was still a lowly backbencher. Her kids were totally out of control and she was rude and arrogant to everyone. So the rudeness and ineptitude is no act!

She’s a post-Brexit Tory party leader: she doesn’t even accept reality.

I'm not sure I accept reality at the moment.....insanity and recklessness are portrayed as "common sense." It's as though the Opposition consisted of unruly teenagers. In one council, a teenager is literally running Social Services, but he's Reform....

She rarely listens to other people but then is outraged if those people aren't hanging on her every word. But at least, as she says, she's getting better... just not sure at what.

What exactly fuels her arrogance? It certainly isn't competence or intelligence.

It’s called Head up Own Arse Toryism. I met a lot of them at University in the 60s when rough diamonds like me from Yorkshire were rare. I pricked a few boils. Or boiled…..

Yes, she is very good at her Politician job. But no match for your cunning and skill as as an interviewer.

She's getting better and better at it. Ask her, and she'll tell you so herself.

She was literally shaking like a shitting dog at yesterday's PMQs. Her body language tells us much more than her mouth.

Imagine her facing Trump in the Oval Orifice. Sorry for the mental image. We would be replacing the Union Flag with the (51) Stars and Stripes by teatime.

100% this.

She believes she is way too good for that. In fact she thinks she is way too good for everything. In fact….

I can sense Gove is providing the script, the manner and the accent to badenoch. Am I right?

She is a bit like a female Gove, now you come to mention it. Only doesn’t smile so oilily so often.

It was dire, and I was surprised how ineffective Emma Barnett was

Not sure she accepts the premise of being Kemi Badenoch

She's "getting better every day". Must be a day off today.

It’s an opportunity for a 1on1 diatribe from her 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

She just doesn’t like being asked questions she hasn’t rehearsed answers for. Or on things that she doesn’t want to talk about. And the Tories got used to those wishes being respected over the last 10 years. Interviewers generally seem much more probing with this government.

*cough* Kuennsberg

It was an utter disaster, arrogance on steroids.

As much as I desired the annihilation of the Tories, I can see we NEED the Tories to sort their act out so they can split the right wing vote and stem the march of Reform.

Is it time to break out that lettuce…?

And she's getting better at not accepting the premise, every day...

Perpetually bad-tempered, superior and evasive. All the qualities guaranteed to annoy voters. Farage must be rubbing his hands.

No one's ever questioned her in her life and she's always right about everything, so why should she agree to being interviewed?

Someone needs to tell her that Muslim women don’t wear the burka at home.

Never forget every day she is getting better and better 😂

It’s laughable please keep her #Tories

I think you’re wrong James. You just don’t see that interviewing is impertinently challenging her because she never has to apologise or clarify anything thanks to her superior engineer’s brain 🤪

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At least she never makes mistake....

Interesting wanting to ask and answer her own questions.

The buyer's remorse of those who voted her in as leader must be intense.

Until they remember that Robert Jenrick was the alternative.

This is the funniest bit of all. Jenrick was only the alternative because the Tory MPs thought they were clever enough to game the system so that Cleverly couldn't lose. The sad part about that is that these same stupid MPs had been "governing" the country for 14 years.

We have had a generation of Tories who have all wanted to be “the next leader but one”. This continues to be the case. I’m not sure whether the party will survive much longer but, to do so, they need to find a credible, moderate leader. While Labour cosplays Reform, there is a One Nation gap.

But ever such a big yes to your first couple of paragraphs

I am sincerely hoping (and marginally confident) that yesterday's spending review will have put clear red water between anyone who thinks Labour and Reform would look remotely similar in government.

“Economically social democratic, socially conservative”, though 😩 [Boney M voice]: Oh, those migration policies.

There are those on the further Left kind of Cornynite leftovers from 2019 disaster who would criticise anything this Lab govt & it's tons of MPs do,being pushing money into quicker healthcare, less cancer waits, nurses,teachers,transport,wages up,school meals,more houses,more police up,pensions up,

Killing trannies and cripples, attacking migrants, sucking off tech billionaires...

What? No body in Labour movement supports that: you're using techniques of vile Daily Express grotesque narratives reversed. Or more like X platform. It's 14 yrs of right wing Tories who made UK 2nd most unequal country in Europe.

PIP cuts will kill the disabled Trans suicides have already increased after healthcare cuts and vocal attacks from sitting Labour MPs Starmer has been copying Reform rhetoric about immigration. The forcing of AI and doing PR for Palantir is disgusting. You are in denial.

Magic Grandpa with his magic wand.

True. We need a Republican option. We are completely brainwashed by 1000 years of Norman Conquest submission.

I'm not sure, there's no "plan" as such, but I suspect they wanted someone to eat all the sh*t while they try to put the party back together & by that measure she's doing excellently. Too stupid to even realise she's being used!

But didn't she come 3rd in a two-horse race? It was only the crazy tory party election system that put her there.

Reform is delighted though

They could have had honest Bob with his TFL hat and his paint brushes

Don't forget the microphone 👍

We would still have knife crime, but he would have dealt with fare dodgers!

Oh come on! Not as bad as Truss.

Nothing and nobody's as bad as Truss but that's a pretty low bar.

BadEnoch - "give me the keys to Number Ten and hold my beer"

I don’t think she accepts the premise of answering the question she is asked.

😆

Badenoch’s arrogance marches angrily ahead of her ability… by some considerable distance.

Dunning-Kruger. Again ...

She's a reservoir of disdain.

But she's funny! We'll all miss her when "honest" bob generic becomes the ticket inspector general of the tax evader fan club.

I would have argued that your statement is wrong as it presupposes she has abilities, but upon reflection, you're right. She does have abilities...to always be incredibly wrong on almost everything with such ease that it's breathtaking.

Those two things do go together with alarming frequency. Unless you're an Olympic gold medalist or something (in which case what do you have to prove?) those who harp on about how great they are & won't hear criticism... Well, they end up in the White House don't they? 🤪🔥

She's very like a child prodigy who hasn't adjusted to adulthood.

Or someone whose parents made her believe she was a child prodigy through their ambition, but it was never true.

Also possible.

Absolutely this - with knobs on

Just exactly that!

I don’t think her ability can walk

She can talk faster than she can think!

She can think?

Nope!

Contrast with the calm, articulate, well informed interview with Horatio Claire on R4 just now.

"Badenoch’s arrogance marches angrily ahead of her ability… by some considerable distance." Which is what perfectly qualifies her to be a Tory.

Great summary

Bring back Boris...best chance of dividing the Right now... Cos the Progressive Centre/Left seems incapable of uniting to build the real majority for reform not Reform. #DumpTrump Ditch FPTP Exit #Brexit Foil #Farage.

Wonder if she's been talking to Ms Keegan, she who did such a f**k**g good job. A good job of ignoring crumbling schools, leaving it for someone else to deal with.

She really needs to go on a Tetchiness Awareness course.

😹😹😹

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It won't be long until she's reined in.

Absolutely perfect description.

Almost poetry...... The words, not the woman.

why should she, she is the Gaffa. 😆 After yesterday's PMQ's, I think Starmer has loosened his corset, put down the vase and begun to enjoy himself.

They were my thoughts exactly, especially her passive/aggressive tone.

Thats funny

Neither does #DavyRussell @uklabourparty.bsky.social

But she assures us she is getting better.

What is it with the interview technique of keep repeating the interviewer’s name? It winds me up no end as it comes across as aggressive & patronising. Stop doing it, it doesn’t work whatever it is you think it’s doing, unless winding up is the aim

It's a really bad habit some people acquire because they cannot bear to be questioned. Had a few clients like that. Some didn't even know they were doing it!

It’s like nails down a chalk board to me. I swear those doing it think it’s engaging!

So many think they'll be brilliant at handling media - until it bites back. It's very exposing!

I agree - it’s intended to intimidate and silence the interviewer. But she should realise she’s not talking (down) to “Emma”, but all of us listeners. It’s the whole point of her being on there after all.

Spot on

Dictators like to do the talking.

I accept the premise of listening & drawing conclusions though. She can't escape that.

She kept talking about Government borrowing and tax without realising that her party borrowed and taxed to historic highs. Poor interviewer couldn't get an word in edgeways.

have people's expectations of politicians just fallen into a populist culture the current opposition leaders & spokespersons just don't have anything else other than divisive rhetoric. Is it me? Badenoch with possibly Truss or Fabricant aside is probably the dumbest opposition leader of all time

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She's just a cheese plant. A handy egotistical idiot until they sort themselves out and become serious again. If ever - they've fallen a long way.

@michaelspicer.bsky.social

I’m sure she would respond to your method of questioning. Eg ‘give me an example of your policy success….just one.’

It's sheer impertinence on the part of the interviewer when you think about it.

Not accepts, understands😂😂😂😂

Basically, Kemi Badenoch is her own premise.

Don't think she accepts the premise of being the leader of the opposition either .

She’s got nothing and she knows it.

£149,469 pa plus expenses mind….excellent return for taxpayers😳

Week by week she learns... But not about interviews...

She had a great opportunity on Radio 4 this morning and blew it - along with any remaining credibility she had. Cannot imagine past Tory grandees like Clark, Heseltine or Theresa May being so rude and ineffective.

On the plus side she's getting better. Apparently!

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Con party and many con voters accepting & adapting to the frightening prospect of Reform (as long as it’s not Labour) exactly as potential Green & Lib Dim voters didn’t mind at the time voting in Labour

Kemi Bedenoch is not a very accepting person.

It's a genuine mystery that in her head she thinks "yep, these performances will get them voting for us again!" Even she must realise that even the heft of client media won't be enough to get them back to power. Extraordinary levels of delusion.

Kemi is a star! About time those left wing liberal Reform voting interviewers realised politicians don't have to be interrogated by the likes of them! If you want to ask questions, get a job as a doctor's receptionist!

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Of course not she has nothing to say to defend herself, all she can say are statements, not facts, not arguments.

And the gap between her there only exists so she can lie through it

Kemi Badenoch hasn’t worked out how to think before she opens her mouth