This is objectively nuts but impartial ‘news’ currently lacks any metric to express that one ‘wrong’ newsworthy thing is several billion times worse than another.
This is objectively nuts but impartial ‘news’ currently lacks any metric to express that one ‘wrong’ newsworthy thing is several billion times worse than another.
You are becoming more “Antisemitic” than Corbyn 😂 - watch your job
Almost looks like the news media here in the U.S.
Presumably witnesses and rescuers are to be considered unreliable.
I was just thinking the same having checked out the bbc headlines. Utterly nuts. I literally cannot understand what is going through their heads.
Just had a glance at my phone and saw they put a 100 odd year old man saying its all down to custard he eats next to a story about the tree that killed the girl in the park.
Who knew a little known music act saying 1 controversial thing could trump actual war crimes. Avon and Somerset will execute an arrest warrant for bad words. The world won't arrest Netanyahu, who has a warrant outstanding for war crimes.
BBC has some of the best reporters, the likes of Lyse Doucette and Jeremy Bowen. The newsroom lacks any sense of proportion and balance. Where is the direction and pressure coming from?
They try to silence those exposing their moral hypocrisy. You can't be upset by nonviolent protest whilst at the same time enabling and tacitly approving a genocide. The only reason people take to the streets to demand justice is because they can't rely on the state to deliver it.
A state which thinks IHRL and the Geneva convention can be ignored when it happens to suit. A state which thinks this is perfectly acceptable. www.declassifieduk.org/britain-sent...
Just seen this and personally think it’s brilliant. Highlights the craziness of what’s going on. What’s ok and what’s not.
But unlike nearly all the rest of MSM, the beeb has to attempt impartiality. The fact that so often the same program is condemned by both sides as biased seem that they do a reasonable job. Wish their critics had to do the same in being impartial.
Why does nobody talk about the opposition in Israel and the brave men and women ( newspapers too)demonstrating against a government that has destroyed the world’s support. The IDF is their sons and daughters under military rule.
It was exactly the same juxtaposition on the 10 O’Clock News. The optimist in me hopes it was a deliberate editorial choice …
Yet our cities are full of anti catholic parades.
Hi James, I listened to yesterday's show & was surprised by your conclusion that Bob Vylan should be arrested. We have a media in the UK, largely ignoring the genocide in Gaza (as you acknowledge) while they conflate any criticism of those carrying out genocide (the Israeli government...
... & military) with antisemitism. You can be, and should be, critical of a country carrying out genocide. While holocaust scholars, survivors & former Israeli ministers acknowledge the genocide our own media fails to, and the Westminster government is playing an active role in that genocide...
... I'd rather my taxes weren't being used to fund intelligence flights for Israel by the RAF, amongst other things. What I find amazing about the media in the UK is the rank hypocrisy in calling for Bob Vylans arrest. The same outlets (GB"News" chief amongst them) calling for Bob Vylan...
... & Kneecap to be blacklisted & jailed are calling for Lucy Connolly to be released. Connolly, who pled guilty. I've heard them refer to her as a political prisoner and say how her prosecution is an attack on free speech. These two things can not be true at the same time...
... they can't be calling for her release for incitement (during an actual riot taking place) but also call for a musician to be jailed for something they say on stage. If the media was making the argument, both should be jailed, fine. At least that's consistent. But they're not...
... I think this is a slippery slope regarding government oppression. We have the government taking part in a genocide while proscribing a non-violent protest group as terrorists. Calls for 2 sets of musicians to be jailed for speaking against that genocide. Personally, I don't think either...
... Bob Vylan or Kneecap should be prosecuted. Their actions and words took place while they were performing on a stage. They were protesting a genocide. Using the reasonable man model, no reasonable person would take the words of Bob Vylan literally. The IDF is an organisation rather...
... than an individual, therefore, it could be argued they were calling for the dissolution of an organisation active in genocide. One of Bob Vylans songs has the line "kill the queen." Should that also be classed as incitement and lead to prosecution? It's one or the other. To support both...
... to support prosecution for one and not the other is rank hypocrisy. Hopefully, I explained myself clearly, I got a bit ranty, so apologies.
Very clearly. re Bob Vylan I don't think the threshold for 'incitement' was reached - unless there is a compelling case that people in the Glatonbury crowd had the opportunity to attack members of the IDF & were encouraged to do so from the stage. But you do need an investigation to establish that.
i am not sure i agree completely. Arrested yes, charged no. Not arresting him leaves room for idiots to talk rubbish. But arresting him and not charging him is vindication. see my point?
I don't think I said they should be arrested. Investigated yes to keep things consistent with Kneecap & Connolly, but I don't even think they should be arrested. They most definitely should not be charged.
What crime could be more serious than embarrassing the BBC and the establishment?
I'm more outraged by outrageous acts than outrageous words by the outraged.
I don't really like death chants directed at anyone. It seems a bit barbaric. But I doubt anyone at Glastonbury has the ability to do anything nasty to an army 2500 miles away. At this point, it becomes hyperbolic and irrelevant. The hotel of migrants down the road is, however, another matter.
Following the same theme. A UN report on Sudan. ALL LIVES MATTER, OK? news.un.org/en/story/202...
The leaders who started and perpetuated this war might be a much better target for those American B 2 bombers.
So what are you doing about the situation in Sudan instead of sealioning when someone mentions the Gazan genocide?
A reminder: Humanitarian Hypocrisy rules, OK? How many marches, Glastonbury chants, news coverage and condemnation do we see about this death and destruction? Emotional Reality Vs Factual Reality. ALL DEATHS MATTER, TRUE? www.google.com/search?q=pic...
580,000 Vs 56,000 ALL LIVES MATTER, OK?
“Digital? It’s just FM with a superiority complex.”
I think you’ll find that in their heads they do: that more people clicked on the kneecap story than clicked on the one where they might have to confront more dead babies.
What chance do we have when the politicians and the media are so beholden to their paymasters that actively want to crush the average person into penniless dust that there's no recourse? "Oh no! The Tories are bad! I'd better vote for the only party that rivals them! OOPS! More Tories!"
I agree with you 98% of the time, but I disagree on your comments regarding Bob Vylan. The IDF is not a person, it’s an organisation, one that is currently committing genocide & war crimes. Think of it as though he were calling for the death of the Nazi’s, many of whom also had no choice in joining.
www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ca...
Alas, it’s not a case of missing ‘metrics’. It’s the dearth of any meaningful journalistic integrity; the unwillingness to seek out and report what was once considered to be true; the business model built on ‘shit-for-clicks’; a denuded regulator and billionaire press barons devoid of their souls.
Am I the only one who thinks this was deliberate? What better way to show the hypocracy of the pearl-clutching faux-outrage about Bob Vylan than actually showing, right there on the same page, what it is that they were actually protesting. The juxtoposition is the point.
Must have been Lowe's letter to Davie that made this move like it has done.🤔
yeh I saw them side-by-side, BBC are going mad.
I am unfamiliar with Kneecap and Bob Vylan, but acutely aware as a broadcaster that for decades, artists (e.g., Bob Dylan) have made politically charged statements through their music, often inciting social rebellion against acts of war and, consequently, incurring the wrath of the establishment.
I understand the need for some laws on free speech, but no one had to watch this guy or his chant, was a choice. Offence is a difficult one to police. But what we currently have is hurty words vs 85+ people mown down and killed since those hurty words were uttered. Is good trouble not useful?
This is the work of Robbie Gibb , it is through him that all of the Israeli foreign office controls BBC editorial policy. He should faces war crimes charges for his part in this. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_...
I think they're just reporting 2 newsworthy things.
Israeli Deputy Speaker Nissim Vaturi called for the killing of all Palestinian men, calling Palestinians in Gaza as “subhuman”, adding that no one in the world wants them. www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250225-isr...
IDF is not a defense force, they are an occupying force. IDF were ordered to shoot at people in line for food. And they did. In recent events: IDF bombed a place where people could charge their phones, to stay connected. Handy in a war zone. A place where journalists met. This is just last week..
Genocide is legal. Protesting it not. This is the state of our so-called civilisation.
Relax, Israel is our ally. It's only our enemies that commit genocide.
Gaza isn't in that particular force's jurisdiction.
Our govt are complicit in indiscriminate murder
absurd hyperbole.
Genocide deniers get muted mate.
its obvious to everyone that bob vylan was not calling for the death of anyone, he was calling for the destruction of the IDF, because they are genocidal murderers. If we had the option to vote for a government that would stop support for israel, we wouldnt need to chant at festivals
The BBC is bag of shit
LBC hung up on me for asking Why teh IDF isn't prescribed as a terrorist organization. Oh they were GIVEN statehood when a terrorist gang back when
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If you were a Labour government wouldn’t you be calling for the 3 Tory hires that are running the BBC to be sacked? I would certainly be putting people in charge that actually can start to restore a modicum of trust in the beeb
4.3.2 Due Weight Impartiality does not necessarily require the range of perspectives or opinions to be covered in equal proportions either across our output as a whole, or within a single programme, webpage or item. Instead, we should seek to achieve ‘due weight’
Bob Vylan stands for justice and equality. They are a brilliant political act. I urge you to take the time to listen to them.
It speaks volumes about the mentality of the fans who packed the West Holts arena that Bobby Vylan’s chant should be so readily adopted at a festival dedicated to love and peace. This is what happens when empathy becomes a substitute for critical moral thinking. open.substack.com/pub/markhoni...
It is worth reading French news for another take. Le Monde doesn't dress up the atrocities in Gaza www.lemonde.fr/internationa...
I think we have to speak up about Israel killing people in the food line because it’s a crime against humanity. It shocking and needs to be investigated immediately.
James...did you listen to the 1st 15 mins of your colleague Sheila F yesterday? It encapsulates everything you are decaying this am. In fact it was even more crass because there was absolutely no mention of the IDFs slaughter and the all the interviews were about Bob Vylan. It's a duo by the way
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Sorry James but your colleague Sheila F did exactly the same at 1pm today. Listen to it and tell us what the difference is. Perhaps the fact that the killing of 50 plus thousand Palestinians didn't get a mention in her interviews with Jewish guests.
I had to switch it off. She can't hide her pro Zionist stance!
you mean you dislike her because she isn't an antisemite.
When everyone is an antisemite, nobody is.
James your colleague Fogarty is so pro Israel she cannot see reality.Two examples of what she decided not to discuss today👇
It is plain for all to see that the IDFare murderers in Gaza and the West Bank. Except for it would seem the Israeli’s, American / UK Governments, and you.
Don't forget the government supports genocide, so you can't protest against it or even raise awareness of it.
This is such nonsense. And you can absolutely protest in support of Palestine. Are any countries in the West doing enough? No absolutely not. Shame on all of them
Respectfully, James, this army is killing people in food lines deliberately. Would you condemn a public voice for calling out the "erasure" of the german fascist army because they were also following orders? That didn't work in Nürnberg.
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This is stupid