Name one

Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, France, Germany, Singapore, Canada..could go on. Name a successful country without any capitalist elements.

What is it about capitalism that you believe we need? Genuine question. Not stirring the pot. Do you not believe that we can have free markets, trade, innovation, etc. without capitalism? Why couldn't we have all of those things, without private ownership? See Mondragon youtu.be/PZuMZwcKRc0

still waiting for someone to come up with a viable alternative. the best examples, already given. I believe that, a mixed economy with a system of PR for elections is the best / least bad system. Any absolute ideology (the core of your question) does not work.

I see. And you don’t think the cooperative system, like Mondragon uses, is a viable system? Why do we need private ownership in the form of shareholders? Especially when that has proven to be so destructive to people and planet. www.uk.coop/understandin...

I can't. But the ones you mention have millionaires and people living in poverty so that doesn't count as 'making it work'.

Assumes all millionaires are bad and do nothing for wider society🤔👍🏻….

We could have a better conversation here where we tried to find common ground instead of everyone being oppositional. My comment is aimed at all in this thread…

Exactly right. There are those that say capitalism has done wonders for us and we need it. And there are those, like me, who say, we don't need capitalism to have markets, innovation and a thriving middle class. Look at Mondragon in Spain. Like you say, we need to find a common ground.

"It's a caring form of capitalism"..... Christiania in Copenhagen was / is also a social experiment about living outside a capitalist society. It has adopted / become reliant on many of it's neighbour's capitalist services for it's survival and did little or nothing to improve the environment.

What’s a “caring form of capitalism?” What are you referring to? As for relying on others for products, you do realise capitalism relies heavily on gov. funding for its “innovations”? HTML, touchscreen & the internet are not capitalist inventions. Yet, all that tech is in the iPhone.

not being oppositional, looking for some / any confirmation, clarity on better alternatives.

Precisely. So it is like democracy then. 🤔denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland. Do your best.

And capitalist countries rely on pillaging raw materials from countries in the Global South, using their cheap labour and gouging interest on structural adjustment loans. I suggest you read "The Divide" by @jasonhickel.bsky.social

Nice to know you are 72 but demand anyone young than you sort out the problems our generations created by having much less of everything than we had👍🏻

Where have I said that? I'm working on this, that I see as a solution. yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/sor...

it is in your profile, if you care to think. Always wary of people who only engage to sign post & promote their own work.

All capitalist countries pillage the global south. Why does the global south let them? Are no countries in the global south more successful than they were 20 years ago. Seems you have stripped them all of sovereignty🤔what do China & Russia do? No thanks.

What a stupid thing to say. Why does the Global South let them? Because they're the victims of bullies. They don't have the strength to resist. Maybe you were a bully, and never understood why people let you bully them. Maybe not.

explain Argentina vs Cuba or tanzania vs DR Congo. etc. worldpopulationreview.com/country-rank.... trying to portray several continents and billions of people as amorphous & bullied is absurd. As for the second paragraph, a belittling attack to having no argument.