Catch 22 redux: The Oval office meeting with El Salvador president. US position: the decision to return Garcia is out of our hands. El Salvador position: the decision to return Garcia is out of our hands.
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we are in peril! the Supreme Court is being ignored and the Constitution is nothing but piece of paper as per Trump;shall we dismantle the Supreme Court?they have no power to enforce anything!That would be an enormous amount of money saved & no more talk about adding Judges or Ethics to be followed!
apr 15, 2025, 1:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes
apr 14, 2025, 9:43 pm • 0 0 • view
“I take no responsibility.”
apr 14, 2025, 7:30 pm • 0 0 • view
If Trump wanted it to be done if would be done.
apr 14, 2025, 7:29 pm • 5 0 • view
for sure. i've read that we are paying for the prisoners to be there... so... that makes them ours, right?!
apr 14, 2025, 8:22 pm • 2 2 • view
That’s what I have been saying
apr 14, 2025, 8:24 pm • 1 1 • view
Someone needs to explain what happens next now that we have a POTUS and an AG who are defying court orders and violating a constitution that protects our rights, and fundamental laws that protect our freedoms. Do we turn to the legislature? Do we turn to the streets? Because this will not stand.
apr 14, 2025, 7:30 pm • 2 1 • view
The PEOPLE must ACT
apr 14, 2025, 8:25 pm • 1 0 • view
The real position: they dont want
apr 14, 2025, 7:57 pm • 0 0 • view
What about the comment that the SC ruling was 9-0 in their favor! Everyone shaking their head in agreement. 😢🗽
apr 14, 2025, 7:37 pm • 6 0 • view
This is the worst part. Are they telling the president what the Supreme Court actually said? They flat out said the opposite of what the Supreme Court said!
apr 14, 2025, 8:00 pm • 2 0 • view
Exactly
apr 14, 2025, 8:05 pm • 1 0 • view
It seems scotus is ok w/ semantical ping pong. Very cartoonish… “Which way did he go, boss?” There are 268 prisoners/slaves in this gulag. Garcia is the most blatant notable. Over 90% in same boat as Garcia. Does J. Roberts have the authority to to order US Marshalls to El Salvador...
apr 14, 2025, 8:46 pm • 1 0 • view
expressly to return those prisoners lacking in “Due Process” offenses by ICE? (not that he’ll utilize it). Enough of this daily fire hosing of oral diarrhea 24/7. Nonsensical crap and exhausting…as intended. Wimps deserve all they don’t get. I can get it for you wholesale.. is a big orange lie
apr 14, 2025, 8:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Can some journalist write a piece speaking about SCOTUS’s impotence issues? Why are they going limp? What are Thomas and Alito getting paid and Roberts too? How is it that the rule of federal judges remains a moot point in the face of oppositionally, illegal behavior of a criminal administration?
apr 15, 2025, 1:42 am • 2 0 • view
So what is Congress doing about this?
apr 14, 2025, 7:37 pm • 2 0 • view
Trump's middle finger raised at the judiciary. Americans are become DEPENDENT on the current Supreme Court for justice? Good luck with that...
apr 14, 2025, 10:32 pm • 2 0 • view
Narrator, sotto voce: "The decision to return Garcia was, in fact, in the U.S.'s hands..."
apr 14, 2025, 7:29 pm • 6 1 • view
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apr 14, 2025, 9:33 pm • 5 0 • view
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apr 14, 2025, 10:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Trump better start offering him loads of money to get him back, he needs to do whatever it takes!!!
apr 14, 2025, 7:58 pm • 1 0 • view
So what is the possible remedy here? Hold Bondi in contempt as the legal representative of the government? Are there any options if they continue to disregard court ordered actions?
apr 15, 2025, 2:45 am • 0 0 • view
Less a "Catch 22" situation, and more of an international criminal conspiracy.
apr 14, 2025, 7:32 pm • 6 0 • view
And they are currently in charge. We can disagree and grumble all day everyday, but they are not going away. At least not peacefully. They opened the door, and hell moved in. Terrifying.
apr 14, 2025, 7:49 pm • 0 0 • view
And NEED TO BE FREED!!!!!
apr 14, 2025, 8:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Can't wait for the 5 o'clock filing, beats the lies coming out of Saigon in 67. Judge Xinis' order coming out of tomorrow's hearing has to be exquisitely crafted so that SCOTUS can slam this bs, then we will know for sure if the courts can serve as a check.
apr 14, 2025, 7:44 pm • 0 0 • view
And that Yossarian is the plan
apr 14, 2025, 7:40 pm • 0 0 • view
Who's paying for it? If the US is paying, then El Salvador is merely a contractor.....and follows directions of the payor.
apr 14, 2025, 7:42 pm • 1 0 • view
They can do anything to you that you can’t stop them from doing to you. The real Catch 22
apr 14, 2025, 7:30 pm • 1 0 • view
I have an idea! Why doesn't Trump do for Garcia what he did for the Tate brothers?
apr 15, 2025, 6:15 am • 0 0 • view
The U.S. position: we’re lying like we do everyday all day. The El Salvador position: we’re lying because the White House told us to.
apr 15, 2025, 12:56 am • 1 0 • view
BuT LaKeN RiLeY! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
apr 14, 2025, 11:01 pm • 0 0 • view
The Judge needs to require Proof of Life at a minimum! I know they don't want him back to set precedent, or to tell his tale, or litigate for kidnapping, false imprisonment, etc. We need to know that he is not dead.
apr 15, 2025, 2:19 am • 2 1 • view
Time a judge demanded a copy of the contract
apr 14, 2025, 7:32 pm • 3 0 • view
I believe Politico published a copy.
apr 14, 2025, 7:44 pm • 0 0 • view
can you post a link?
apr 14, 2025, 7:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Sorry, a link to what exactly?
apr 14, 2025, 7:49 pm • 0 0 • view
Ok, I got it. I got the info from a post by Andrew Weissman. Will try to find it for you.
apr 14, 2025, 7:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Chck out Weissmann's posts 1d ago. He discusses the contract's text. In the coments, there is a quote from Politico of an agreement with Bukele. I may have mistakenly assumed they had the whole text. Sorry.
apr 14, 2025, 8:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Thanks I'll have a look
apr 14, 2025, 8:08 pm • 0 0 • view
SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING! No one should think this ok. If you think for a minute that they are not going to expand this to lgbtq+ people especially trans are not their next target is blind. Then they won’t stop there it will be the free press.
apr 14, 2025, 10:42 pm • 2 0 • view
If he is still alive someone has to do something about getting this man back on US soil.I would argue there is no reason all of the detainees not be brought back.The thought that a father and a husband can can be arrested and be deported to a country that he was being protected from has me sickened.
apr 14, 2025, 10:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Why aren’t Dems screaming bloody murder about this? This is a real constitutional crisis!
apr 14, 2025, 8:56 pm • 0 0 • view
God bless Judge Michael Luddig!! Somebody appoint him to the Supreme Court quick.
apr 14, 2025, 8:37 pm • 0 0 • view
Isn't it bitterly ironic that the man who repeated over & over "or you won't have a country anymore" has brought that about? But of course he did 😠 He's a psychopath. Forgive me for being impatient with you, Andrew. I could see this coming.
apr 14, 2025, 8:30 pm • 0 0 • view
apr 14, 2025, 8:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Now what? When will the courts hold them responsible? I can't believe someone isn't already in jail for contempt. Seems pretty hopeless to me, law and order in this country are dead.
apr 14, 2025, 10:32 pm • 0 0 • view
In a 'normal' world wouldn't it make sense to have provisions addressing the return of prisoners in the funding agreement with El Salvador in the event of a mistake or new information?
apr 15, 2025, 6:58 pm • 2 0 • view
Did you actually think that he was going to cooperate with the decision to return Mr Garcia? The supreme courts wishy washy statement left a thread of potential for him to ignore the order and they knew he would take it and surprise, he did. It was entirely predictable on the courts’ part and his.
apr 15, 2025, 1:27 am • 3 0 • view
Two presidents playing dumb -dumb in order not to comply. The sad thing is it works!
apr 14, 2025, 11:39 pm • 0 0 • view
I didn't see it, but the AZ wedding singer/martial arts expert is ready to explain, I'm sure, you didn't see what you just saw. He's practicing an ancient and highly sophisticated form of cognitive martial arts.
apr 14, 2025, 8:01 pm • 0 0 • view
1/2 How To Get KAAG Back: Judge Xinis (backed up by the SC) must (a) 1st, see the agreement w/ES & order Trump to enforce it if & to the extent that would produce release/return; & (b) tell Trump: go ahead & conduct whatever secret negotiations you want but if, within 48 hrs, that doesn't work,
apr 14, 2025, 7:56 pm • 0 0 • view
2/2 then: 1st, Rubio must formally, publicly, unconditionally & immediately request release/return, & if that doesn't work; then, finally, Trump must do the same. If, shockingly, Bukele still says no, then at least let Trump suffer that public humiliation.
apr 14, 2025, 7:56 pm • 0 0 • view
So what does it take to OVERTHROW a Dictator? Answer... Will & Force - They are Counting on our Peace-Loving party to NOT have the BALLS to actually Overthrow a DICTATORSHIP...We WILL Go Quietly into the Night!???
apr 15, 2025, 5:41 pm • 0 0 • view
Unconscionable, monstrous, despicable charade.
apr 14, 2025, 7:31 pm • 2 0 • view
How long ago did I say Professor, No one has ever or will hold the Orange Felon accountable! This is Fascism!! That’s why I have been cynical! This is why my Grandfather’s family fled or were murdered in Holocaust! 🤦🏽♀️😡😞
apr 14, 2025, 8:30 pm • 0 0 • view
It is unconscionable El Salvador, with the support of its president, is becoming an off shore American penal colony. If SCOTUS is ignored and Abrego Garcia left in prison, no one should think it will end there. ANY American will be vulnerable to seizure and deportation without legal recourse.
apr 14, 2025, 8:23 pm • 2 0 • view
First suspected immigrant criminals w'out records. Then "homegrown criminals." Next? Black and Brown people w/out records? Democrats? Childless cat ladies? Childless men? Cat ladies with kids? Gets better and better. How did we get here? How did we come to be OK with this?
apr 14, 2025, 10:14 pm • 1 0 • view
I’m getting awful Kashoggi vibes. He got away with it that time too.
apr 16, 2025, 10:33 am • 0 0 • view
Did Pam Bondi lie about Garcia being part of MS? And here illegally? Who is lying here?
apr 14, 2025, 10:18 pm • 2 0 • view
I will never believe neither of these presidents can not release an illegally detained prisoner! They are choosing not to release him! Pure EVIL!
apr 14, 2025, 7:57 pm • 1 0 • view
What does SCOTUS EXPECT?? THEY made a low IQ, unstable PSYCHOPATH-a KING 👑 And they don’t GIVE A DAMN As long as he destroys this country-TO THEIR LIKING-they will continue to give him MORE power. SCOTUS’s illegal ruling that he is a KING-! has resulted in the fall of this democracy.
apr 14, 2025, 8:35 pm • 0 0 • view
But Trump, last week, got a person out of RUSSIA PRISON!!! So we know Trumps' full of it! Which we knew. Shame on everyone sitting in that room that laughed.
apr 14, 2025, 8:29 pm • 1 0 • view
Can't the US bar Assoc. take Pam Bondi's law license for violating their order & US laws???
apr 14, 2025, 8:20 pm • 1 0 • view
why he is trying to bring back jobs and shipping these jobs to south america? he is full of shit he is a lying sack of shit
apr 15, 2025, 7:21 am • 0 0 • view
we're at a Rubicon and, you can be an institutionalist and also be realistic about what's happening there's no conflict in my mind unless being an institutionalist means reflexive defense of whatever an institution is doing that's what Trump is doing in a way refusing to admit error by govt
apr 14, 2025, 8:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Trump's Jan 20 executive order may trigger the Insurrection Act on April 20 (Hitler’s birthday), which allows him to deploy military forces on the street to suppress civil disorder, rebellion or insurrection. 🚨 DEMAND to know what your representative is DOING to stop it!!🚨 #ImpeachTrump #Resist
apr 15, 2025, 8:18 am • 0 0 • view
Garcia has been permanently (fatally) disappeared...why else are they stalling/denying so adamently?
apr 14, 2025, 7:58 pm • 0 0 • view
“That’s some catch, that Catch-22.”
apr 14, 2025, 7:59 pm • 0 0 • view
* except they are doing it on purpose. Both tyrannical and evil.
apr 14, 2025, 7:46 pm • 1 0 • view
When this is over, I hope these people - Trump, Rubio, Bukele, and the rest - all wind up at The Hague.
apr 14, 2025, 7:38 pm • 12 2 • view
Yes... but first we'd actually have to join the ICC... actually be subject to accountability. So many small steps have gotten us here.
apr 14, 2025, 8:35 pm • 2 1 • view
Hot mic: Trump saying Bukele needs to build 5xs more facilities for all the Americans he wants to send him. No rule of law anymore. SCOTUS & the Rep Congress are complicit.
apr 14, 2025, 7:31 pm • 2 1 • view
And Americans criticize China!!!???
apr 14, 2025, 8:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Easy to criticize anywhere men live and rule without ethics. Few should assume they’re perfect.
apr 15, 2025, 1:25 pm • 0 0 • view
They don't know where he is. Or even "if" he is.
apr 15, 2025, 3:31 am • 0 0 • view
The one paying the bill to keep those prisoners there has the power to do whatever they want. They choose fascist cruelty with a little bit of implausible deniability. Worse is on the way.
apr 14, 2025, 7:35 pm • 2 0 • view
Didn’t Trump pay $6M to send them to El Salvador?
apr 14, 2025, 7:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Now we're respecting another nation's sovereignty? Don't bring a match anywhere near this gaslighting.
apr 14, 2025, 8:28 pm • 0 0 • view
If Trump asked Bukele to return Mr. Garcia, as a personal favor, does anyone doubt he'd be home tomorrow?
apr 14, 2025, 11:44 pm • 1 0 • view
Does anyone doubt that one word from Trump would bring Garcia home? This is calculated cruelty
apr 14, 2025, 7:54 pm • 0 0 • view