He can be replaced whenever MPs become unconvinced he's going to be able help them keep their seat. I imagine the 2026 local elections give a decent time for this. What exactly is your alternative timo? Pretend Jeremy Corbyn can spin a party of malcontents up? Pretend the greens can win?

Bring in PR to ensure there can not be a Fascist take over of the UK. Labour members voted for it.

The plp failed to remove corbyn cos, y'know, lp rules mean it's virtually impossible to remove a leader no matter how shit he is. Hence 2019.

We’re in this mess because of this kind of thinking. Labour clearly are not doing enough to win the next election or beat away Reform. They’re paving the way. The alternative starts when you stop giving unconditional support to people who are acting like fascists. It’s as simple as that.

I think if you think that labour are acting like fascists you need to get a reality check.

The war against basic rights for trans people is not that of a party that values human rights for all parts of society.

The position is bad on trans rights. It's not fascism.

The denial of basic rights for vulnerable groups is one of the big red flags on the way to fascism.

Do you think the labour party is a fascist party yes or no? Let's get this over with quickly

I will answer that. Willingness to use elements of, yes. Evidence: Ignoring the GFA Ignoring the rule of law for the TCA Lack of citizens rights regarding trans & EU / UK citizens Supporters of genocide Engaging in performative racism Watching people drown in the channel Treatment of aslyum seekers

So do you think in 100 years time students of fascism will do a labour party module between the Hitler and Mussolini?

It maybe a good idea if you read 'The Wave' book by Todd Strasser. This was one of the books I had to read at school. The CoE, ECHR and the EU were established in order to protect citizens from people with a lower regard for the rule of law and citizens rights than their political tribalism.

Like I want you to write. "I believe the labour party is an example of a fascist political party". Can you sign onto that statement?

When at school we learned about the Weimar Republic we also discussed in detail how the behaviour of other parties enabled the rise of Nazism. I hope that future generations will not need to discuss how Labour enabled the rise of fascism in the UK.

Recent decisions with regards to Gaza protests by Labour are not that of a party that has freedom of speech at its core.

Ok but that isn't fascism, Timo.

Fascism is not a binary state but a slippery slope. Every such decision leads us further down this slope at which end Farage is waiting.

Fascism as a meaning and the meaning isn't "socially conservative politics with a long history in the labour party and in social democracies more generally". The policies are bad, the politics are bad, you do not need to invoke the spectre of fascism and it's crimes to say that.

It's much more relevant to compare this government to labour in the 60s and 70s rather than Nazi Germany and fascist Italy. That this needs to be said is ridiculous.