I'm not shocked by this in the least.
I'm not shocked by this in the least.
Does anyone have good sourcing for this?
NY Post ('good' source is debatable but the article itself seems ok, would like to hear more on translations of that journal): nypost.com/2025/08/28/u...
I wouldn't trust it, unless it's shown side by side with the original.
Detransitioning as a scapegoat for far-right ideology is a convenient narrative, but let's not forget the complex web of factors that lead someone down that path, including a lack of support and understanding during their transition.
Yep one of those we call political detransitioners. They detransition for non genuine reasons then go far right
fuck, this is way too plausible.
We know that this person was very active on 4chan, a site well known for ties to violent right wing groups and white supremacist organizations. Lots of shooters got radicalized there. If this person had had more support during their transition, instead of falling down the fascist rabbit hole…
We’d be living in a different week.
The problem here is that the child killer may have been lying about everything in their manifesto in the hopes we’d all cherry pick it trying to rationalize what happened Nothing the killer did or said can be trusted to be authentic bsky.app/profile/mike...
I think there’s a lot of right wing groups that use the irony lens as a way to launder their right wing ideals, because too-credulous people will say you can’t believe what they say
Also because those people will then repeat what they say and spread the misinformation while trying to ridicule or counter-argue it or out of shock, grief and outrage. But to do that we must accept their rancid framing of the event, and then we walk into their trap. The *framework* must be attacked
In this case, the idea that the killer is 1) trans 2) a detransitioner is self contradictory. Either the killer wasn’t trans and needed to detransition or the killer was trans and was being coerced into detransition. 🌹but what does killing children have to do with any of that!?🌹
The moment we start debating which piece of contradictory information is true, we lose the plot And the children who got shot are erased, subsumed into a hot-button political debate where everyone is now being driven by a motive 🌹other than supporting the victims🌹 Which is what they want
That only *increases* the cruelty to the children. Their lives, and their families lives, are rendered meaningless, erased and replaced by whatever convenient narrative the rest of us are driven by hate, desperation, fear, anger, or outrage to latch on to as we cherry pick their life
I don’t know that I buy that narrative. Trying to find the motivations of the shooter to prevent this from happening again, to me, is much more meaningful to the lives of the lost than to ignore the causes and hope it doesn’t happen again
Anyway, I don’t know it would be productive to keep this conversation going Have a good day!
The politics of the shooter lead to the solution to the problem tho. If we ignore the causes of the shooting, we do nothing to stop it from happening again. The same nihilistic right wing groups have instigated multiple shootings now
I mean, it has to do with political beliefs leading to political action. I don’t think spouting that much Nazi rhetoric and being detrans exist in a vacuum. Killing kids is a result of the ideology. I disagree with framing this as apolitical.
“Nothing I say or do is real” is a political statement imo. Especially when it’s violently imposed on us through murdering children I’d go so far as to say it’s a fascist message. The killer is dehumanizing all of us through violence. They are saying that those children do not matter
and I think it’s an inherently right wing ideology, which fits in with the Nazi messages and imagery, which also could coincide with being groomed to detransition
Absolutely. But I mean, that’s just it. all fascist rhetoric is nonsense. It’s supposed to be confusing and self contradictory. It’s intended to create conflict, confusion, and cognitive dissonance and, because it is paired with violence, cause us to rationalize it to ourselves
They scream “the earth is flat” while beating us with clubs until we make them a sandwich. If you prove the earth is round, they’ll switch to “the moon landing was faked” The point is to get you to make them a sandwich. Their “beliefs” don’t matter
What this person did was shoot children to get on TV and into a history book. Everything else is just SEO
not that i dont believe yall but can anyone point to some concrete evidence of this? it'd be good to have something to point to
None. It's just an excuse to fuck up her pronouns.
Do you know where that translation came from? I have only seen that quoted by andy ngo, and wouldn't trust him. There must be a more credible source?
Almost every detransitioning story I've ever heard has been due to the severe amount of bullying and ostracizing they've received while transitioning while getting no support, so they do it for self-preservation. Yeah, now and then someone genuinely regrets it because of REAL reasons, but it's
essentially a rounding error and those people will never get the support they need so long as fascists keep using them as a cudgel to beat the shit out of all trans people.
I'm pretty sure he made that up as a "fuck you" to trans people, knowing the hate that would bring us. Because he's far right. That's what they do.
Are they referring to a separate manifesto from the 11min video on YouTube? The letter to their family and friends in that video did not mention include anything about trans identity
So just a very similar mentality to the black white nationalist shooter we had earlier. These terrorgram groups purposefully groom vulnerable people into their groups and seem to now be targeting “undesirables” to be their ground agents
Yeah, there’s nothing they would enjoy more than having a member of a marginalized community they want to wipe out turned into a mass propaganda tool like this. And so they do.
it was a psyop, i don't believe this even happened at all. the story makes no sense at all. why would a white nationalist white person kill while children, but write on the gun that they hate minorities. i think it's a psyop to make the public distrust the trans community
The logic I've heard is that it could have perhaps been a way for the shooter to ""spare"" them of having to live in a world with racial minorities. Either way, the shooting definitely did happen. It's not like conservatives need mass shootings to make us look bad anyways.
I am trans and I live in Minneapolis. I saw the police response. I have talked to people with kids who attend there. This wasnt fake. I hate it, but it wasnt fake. Please dont fall for conspiracies that harm the victims and their families and the community at large.
I think your ridicules post is.
The shooting is real. There are dead children.
did you know them personally?
Alex Jones has entered the replies.
Rather than just online influences, there is a non zero chance of a conversion therapy group being involved. 🤷♀️
Cope, imo.