This is insane by Yvette Cooper. Spray-painting planes is not terrorism. Criminal damage, yes - but you cannot “terrorise” inanimate objects. It does not serve to cause terror in victims. Therefore it is not terrorism. The authoritarian Home Secretary has lost the plot.
Terrorism would have involved blowing up the plane. The protesters did the Government a favour by exposing the lack of security at an RAF base
I thought she was clever. Apparently not.
Spray painting doesn't damage the aircraft and doesn't need the aircraft to be taken out of service for repainting. It might be inconvenient to the maintenance staff, but it's not an act of terrorism.
Who was made to fear the act of spray painting or those spray painting the aircraft. How is spray painting and act of violence?
I don't always agree with Yvette Cooper but I like her because she upsets the far-left nutjobs.
Strong contribution there, well done
Infamy infamy they've all got it in for me . Well done Palestine action for showing up the Uk government for the double standards they adhere too.
Agreed!! Cooper has lost it
She vas onlee obayink ordaz from her liede.
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The war on dissent under the facade of a war on terror is in full flow, it started with the tories public order act 2023, to stop protests by people like Just Stop Oil. We will see it enacted to anyone who challenges the Gov.
Our already stretched intelligence and anti-terrorist services will now have to spend time and resources monitoring activists who spray painted some planes. Meanwhile, the threat of real terrorism from Iranian regime proxies & others will be under-resourced. I’ve lost all respect for Cooper.
When did Labour stop representing the interests of ordinary people? Leaving that void lets the likes of Farage in!
Perhaps the government should welcome the relatively peaceful outcome of someone being able to breach the perimeter of one of our most important air bases. I dread to think of the potential damage someone with more malign motives might have done.
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This was part of the trade deal. Always compromises/feckless weakness.
Well said. .... "You cannot 'terrorise' inanimate objects." .... Who do they hope to impress with this? Certainly not progressives. It's another case of them alienating their own base in order to appeal to people who'll never vote for them.
Complicit in genocide, terrorising decent British citizens, appeasing a narcissistic tyrant. We can’t wait for an election: this government has to be brought down.
I fear you are too kind. She knows exactly what she's doing
Yvette. I wonder where that name comes from? Israel now controls both our foreign and domestic policies
It’s like everyone on the Labour front bench has got a mini-Lee Anderson on their shoulder, whispering shitty advice in their ear
It falls within UK definition in Terrorism Act 2000 by claiming it's a 'serious damage to property, designed to influence a government'. Whether spray paint causes serious damage is doubtful. If it does, UK forces should change their current armaments to paintball guns and save our defence budget.
She should be thanking them for revealing the terrible security at Brize Norton.
What makes a minister make a decision like this? Was it subject to critical discussion? A legal view must have been sought. No-one was terrorised by the action so this is a punishment decision to deter others from similar actions. A genocide-enabling state has spoken loudly and embarrassingly.
Labour is absolutely terrified of being labelled antisemitic again, to the extent where they will not only turn a blind eye, but actively facilitate criminal aggression by a corrupt regime.
It's a cover for her embarrassment of a massive hole in security. The moral is: embarrassing a politician is worse than harming someone.
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” Orwell 1984
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Not only a Tory. A genocidal Tory.
Thin end of a Trump shaped wedge.
Fascists
Does she pay tax on that money? Does she have to declare what she does in return for the money?
I wouldn’t know and I doubt we would ever know the full story. Labour Friends Of Israel seem to splash a lot of money around so they must expect something in return
Don't ask 😯
Someone (likely LFOI) are unhappy with the traction Palestine Action have gained in the UK. A paint stunt does not a terrorist organisation make! Yvette Cooper has acted on behalf of her paymasters, ignoring the electorate! Red Tories right enough!!!
These are my thoughts exactly They should be embarrassed that a few people could gain entry into what is supposed to be e high security area. Yvette wants people to concentrate on red paint not a genocide she is enabling
Breaking into a military installation, damage costing millions of £ to operational military equipment, aircraft that have only been used to help aid to Gaza is hardly a protest. Where is the line drawn? If they did it and caused an aircraft to crash through similar damage, what then?
I understand people protesting against violence. But there are two sides to this, yet the protests are aimed only at Israel. The flags carried are always Palestinian. Where are the voices condemning Hamas for their actions. Do the lives of Israelis not matter? Yeah, yeah, I know...
I respect your POV, so this isn’t a battle of opinions, however, I would encourage you to research www.un.org/unispal/abou... About the Nakba - Question of Palestine True, actions on both sides have been horrific, however, for myself, Isreal had the opportunity to big the bigger person,
This would have led to international condemnation of Hamas and I’m quite sure, would have led to their removal from power by their own people. Instead, Isreal, like the US during 9/11, chose a path fuelled by anger, thus putting the whole world in jeopardy. They have slaughtered thousands of
innocent people in their rage, they have also created a huge displacement issue, as to which, the RW voters of the world will push back against as they try to begin a new life elsewhere. Do you not see the cyclical nature of war and conflict, and how it generates so much pain in the world?
It should be a resignation issue for @yvettecooper-mp.bsky.social - it is an absolute abuse of power. She is not fit to be an MP never mind a government minister but @keirstarmer.bsky.social is not fit to be PM either
Labour party utterly determined to be on the wrong side of ... Everyone. 🤬
She never had it. But you preferred her massively over Corbyn. Remember?
It’s certainly not terrorism as any reasonable person would understand it. But it may be “terrorism” as ludicrously drafted in the UK terrorism act. Particularly when modern UK judges seem to act much more politically than in the past..,
Isnt she a member of "Labour Friends of Israel"?
I'll wait while she proscribes the Israeli Lobby. It's going to be a long wait.
And any sane person would know the difference 🤔
The UK is a country without a modern written constitution or parliamentary rules and ministers with too much power. Governance is no longer about science or law or best practice but what they can get away with. The Equality and Human Rights Commission is corrupt and the SC openly bent. 🫤
To think that this time last year, I was hoping (and practically) praying for Labour to win the Election, glad the Tories got voted out last year, little knowing that the ‘Labour’ party are a diluted form of the Tories, though far more authoritarian, Cooper, & Starmer to name but a few. Also FOI.
They wanted an excuse to criminalise so protests become illegal. They hate the protests. Hate signs of opposition to Israel. Hate getting flack from pro-Israeli lobby in Labour and press. They want it to go away. So disappointing.
The Labour leader that allowed the most latitude in what people were allowed to say was always claimed to be 'purging' the party. In reality wide debate was allowed Friends of Israel should be allowed to critique/protest Israeli policy without being tarred as terrorists or anti-semetic
It’s simply a reaction to a situation as no-one in authority is listening, let Rome crumble, then they’ll listen.
I used to really respect Yvette Cooper. People surprise you all the time though.
Yes she was always impressively on top of her brief as a Shadow Minister but power seems to have gone to her head, as so often is the case.
Yes, so did I - to the extent that I'd hoped she'd be Prime Minister at some point. I barely recognise her these days.
!!! I was thinking she seems to be changing physically to match. She used to be quite 'bonny' but looks increasingly sour faced these days.
Yes, sour facing and ageing faster than she should be. Not a happy woman by the looks of her.
All Home Secretaries lose the plot. Inevitable really given the nature of real and perceived threats. They live in permanent fear of a domestic catastrophe on their watch and being accused of not doing something in advance that could be seen as preventative.
Blue Labour mate! You still pedalling Scientists for Labour? About time cut losses imho. This is no Labour Gov! Be it for truth defence of democracy or anything really, be it Scientists or working ppl! Only ppl “Labour” work for now are whom pays them.
No Shame Mike, we all hoped a change of Gov to Labour would be better, there are bigger forces at work! Namely, whom pays them most!
Weak ppl are weak ppl after all. The transformation of David Lammy tho… Bloody hell!!!! That’s one for the Annals
Well said. ☝️I don’t know why I ever thought YC was a voice of reason when she was in opposition. I now realise it was all a sham. So disappointing.
I noticed all you lot who are defending them, keep that citing that as the example of not being terrorism when there's a list of things that they've done over the years. I'm sick to death of these hypocrites morons and the idiots who defend them. They ruin any cause they attached themselves to.
wtf are you banging on about??
🤣 Yes, it was a bit lost in translation.
That's a lot of words for "I'm a melt who loves the taste of boot leather".
So disappointed in her. But then I was shocked some time back to learn that she was top of politicians who'd received donations from companies linked to private healthcare. I think a couple of Torons came after, then Starmer, then Streeting.
She is yet another labour cabinet member who is losing her way
Breaking news: armed @metpolice.bsky.social Anti-Terrorist units have arrested the directors of Halfords and B&Q for selling material of use to terrorists. All their shops have been closed indefinitely by masked people in police uniforms on the orders of the Home Secretary.
It didn't take long for new-new Labour to be overcome by power. How far removed from 'Labour' principles is this shower of tainted politicians!
They weren't overcome , this is just who they are
As far as Starmer's Tories from the Greens
Thank you for saying that. I need other people to call this out too.
Blue Labour which just means Tory.
Well said
You think that’s bad? Try this one. A #LibDem councillor wanting to know why they weren’t shot on sight. I raised this the other day with @libdems.org.uk and needless to say nada! Labour aren’t the only ones with a problem. bsky.app/profile/bice...
Spraying paint is not an act of terrorism it is an act of protest. Yvette Cooper is obviously under pressure but she cannot possibly say that thee people arw terrorists. This is a disgrace.
wouldn't surprise me at all if starmerroids zionist terrorist 'friends' had a hand in this...
I was thinking similar. But it also undermines understanding of actual terrorism.
When Corbyn was asked when Lab leader, would he 'unconditionally ' support Isr if he was PM and said he wouldn't unconditionally support any foreign country, it was the signal of who controls UK, USA, etc.
It's certainly a hysterical reaction. If they didn't have "Palestine" in their title would they have banned?
#Starmer should be thanking them for exposing gaping holes in Military security!!!
Agreed, yet more legislation that will be unenforceable.
I don’t agree with her decision because I don’t think the threshold of serious damage has been met. But your summary is, well, pants.
Hopefully she won't ever see the hob after I've cooked tomato sauce... 🍉
And glosses over the fact that RAF Brize Norton is clearly not secure. That's the bigger story. How many others?
The Tories never branded Greenham Common women as terrorists for throwing paint at cruise missiles #Democracy
It's the same but treated differently.
Well spotted!
I’ve absolutely fkin had it with Labour!
They broke into a military base and caused damage so it was always going to be judged harshly. Yes that’s mainly down to RAF incompetence and laziness but they should have never targeted planes at a military base
This isn't the first time that sort of thing has happened, but it is the first time anti terrorism powers have been used in this manner.
I’ve seen other people suggesting that sort of thing about say CND at Greenham common or Fairford in 2003 difference being the proscribed group thing is a new law plus at that time both bases were US and they were stopped well before any damage. If they had got close they would have been shot dead
On the US bases in this country there are multiple levels of security to stop people getting close enough to areas that will get themselves killed. At Brize Norton they should have been stopped well before they got to the planes but would be looking at lengthy jail sentences
I get a strong feeling that they're utterly embarrassed that some civilians broke into a supposedly secure military base and (checks notes) sprayed some paint on a plane. Dangerous terrorists, right?
Those guys should be rewarded for highlighting the appealing security. What if it had been real terrorists?
Exactly so. Can't have the MOD embarrassed what?
Here she is with extremist, genocide-inciting, Settler-supporting, Nakba-denying Hotovely, Israeli ambassador. Hotovely was too extreme even for British Jews, who opposed her selection as ambassador. Hotovely has forever fought against a 2 - state solution. www.middleeasteye.net/news/jewish-...
I used to truly admire and respect Yvette Cooper too. What happened?
Nuts.
Cooper has always loved a slice of authoritarianism. Just look at the sanction system so beloved by the Tories/DWP.
Agreed. This has gone too far, what is she thinking?
It's not just Yvette Cooper, Labour has lost the plot.
A quick search suggest YC only received £5k from LFI. Compared to AIPAC spending on politicians in the US, our ministers are so economical.
Also this was in this thread... bsky.app/profile/anni...
She's becoming very 'Jack Straw'...
It’ll break the camels back
No comment from the Gov on the lack of security at an active airbase which is the main takeaway for most! A little paint is the last of their worries.
Authoritarian indeed. A knee jerk response to poor RAF security. Throwing paint on a plane, that will already have been painted, is at worst criminal damage and at best an artistic & political statement. How about she owns up to U.K. complicity in genocide with sold arms.
It wasn’t just over the bodywork, it was inside the engine. It could have brought the plane down as well as costing £thousands to put right and taking the plane out of use.
It wasn't inside the engine, it was on the cowling. A plane can fly perfectly fine with paint on the cowling.
It was inside the engine as well and they stated the aim was to put the plane ‘out of action’.
“Palestine Action said two members had entered the Brize Norton base in Oxfordshire, putting paint into the engines of the Voyager aircraft and further damaging them with crowbars.”
Doesn't stop it being an over reaction. There isn't, and never was any safety risk.
This sort of thing has happened on 3 previous occasions, and the groups have never been proscribed before. The only thing that's different here is Labour cheerleaders backing suppression of political speech when it's their people doing it.
Well said. Though I think these days Labour does not represent any socialist values or voters who still think they do. This term of office is proof of that.
That is still not terrorism.
to bring it down it would have to be in the air... not sitting on the ground.. and a bit of paint will just get burned like fuel.. they test them with frozen chickens.
‘They’ don’t test them with frozen chickens. That’s the punchline of a joke told about aircraft testers of different nations. www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/s/7j...
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You sure about that frozen chicken bit? Jet grilled chicken? Is that a thing?! 🤭
hmmm perhaps the RAF shouldn't be flying intel missions over Gaza for the genocidal cowards of the IDF then? Just a thought.
can we get Thames Water banned as a terrorist organisation for spraying water all over the place then threatening to cut people off for not being able to afford their profit making loss making businesses?
PERHAPS this might provide a Pretext for an enterprising ethical MP (like @jeremycorbyn.bsky.social) to raise the possibility of Proscribing Zionism as a Terrorist Ideology? It - - -
has all the necessary Evils and more than enough Evidence of being Supremacist, Apartheid, Lawless, Violent, Subversive, and Genocidaly Intolerant of Infidels.
There's a difference though. They give a lot of money to Labour politicians.
Is Just Stop Oil a terrorist organisation now?
I agree. Criminal damage can be dealt with in the courts. This is not terrorism. Cooper should retire to the back benches for contemplation
We’re far more sympathetic to Israel than any British government should be, let alone one that’s historically been left of centre. Disgusting.
Labour Friends of Israel should be proscribed.
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Starmer,Cooper,Lammy are alll members of Palestine INAction. A group that is in the pay of a foreign government and it's supporters.
Is it only because they vandalized the airplanes? Is there nothing else?
Blowing up buildings isn't terrorism if you're careful not to kill people?
Throwing paint is though!
We must not accept this fascism from this Labour Government
They were supposed to be better than the Tories.
Spray paint a plane is terrorism but committing genocide is ok with the Labour Party/UK Government.
Deliberately damaging tax payer owned equipment used to protect us is terrorism.
This Labour government has been a great disappointment. Might as well have Nigel Farage. Maybe it's time to give power to the Lib Dems.
No, to the GREENS.
It certainly looks illogical. By this logic, is every instance of graffiti presumably now an act of terrorism?
Wasn't there supposed to be a Labour government in the UK?
We haven't seen hide nor hair of one of those since the 1970's
Could there be more to this that we don’t know about as alluded to today by a Labour MP on #PoliticsLive?
Covering the RAF’s embarrassment at allowing demonstrators (not trained military) to ‘evade’ ‘security’ at one of the dis-UKs most important airbases while the security were home with their families for the weekend.
Whether right or wrong using words such as ‘a little paint’ or ‘spray painted’ is incorrect. The paint was sprayed into the actual engines causing them to be immediately unavailable for operational use…
Also unable to distinguish between painting an aeroplane and Genocide.
Yet ukip/ reform are allowed to sit in Westminster. Who's done more damage? 😡
I would have thought She should be more concerned how they actually got to aircraft in one of our most critical RAF bases
Then why weren't Just Stop Oil banned years ago? This is a complete overreaction and a knee jerk one at that. Not to mention how it looks to the rest of the world. Disgusting. Do Better Labour!!!
