Thank God for that.
Thank God for that.
And please remember the main protagonist was Farage. He’s no good for the UK.
The US hopes our citizens get a double dose of regret, not with our "government" but for the ass trying to run it into the ground for his personal benefit.
Here are HM Treasury's "Operation Yellowhammer" predictions from 2018, dismissed by Gove as Project Fear (very similar to Trump firing his head of labor statistics when her dept's report told him what he didn't want to hear). Brexiteers can't say they weren't warned.
Doesn’t matter, Murdoch et al are not going to take the gun away from the government’s head on this.
Speaking to friends who thought voting leave was a good idea now blame the lies they were told for the decision they made. It’s very widespread
So they take no personal responsibility then?
And yet we are heading for a very right wing / pro-Brexit government come the next election.
Still 29%!? 🤯
And yet in every poll they are unwilling to make any compromise that rejoining would require. It seems exceptionalism is alive and well! I want to rejoin as soon as possible, but unless people engage with the likely consequences (Euro, no rebate, Schengen, etc.) it won’t happen.
#rejoinEU bsky.app/profile/nick...
And the importance of good relations and mutual support with our neighbours is high on my list of benefits of being a member of the EU. I live in a small close, my neighbours and I are always ready to help in emergencies, but aren’t intrusive at other times. The support of neighbours is priceless.
Vested interest in keeping us out has to be why govt isn’t listening. If it isn’t stupidity, it has to be greed.
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It’s time for a referendum…. 🤪 “The will of the people….” - remember that….?
The will of the people is a one way street!
Apparently so 🙄
The sooner Labour start challenging Reform and the Conservatives directly about the disaster that is Brexit the sooner they will start to revive their fortunes, and ours
I made a list of my favourite brexit benefits.
And yet labour continue to chase the reform vote.
Brexit, massively unpopular, starmer wants to make it work, against our economic interests! Trump's tarrifs, massively upopular, starmer wants to whisper with trump, against our economic & national interests! Israel, murdering babies, Starmer... Labour will be annialated at the next election!
How?
Read any public pronouncement on the topic
Or you could tell me which reform policy Labour has adopted and then why, in a democracy, trying to get people who didn’t vote for you last time to do so next time is somehow A Bad Idea? Because persuading people to vote for you sort of the point.
You don’t have to adopt their policies to chase their voters. By refusing to acknowledge the failure and explore reversing it, they are sending the signal that reforms "achievement" is more important than where the majority of voters are.
That’s abject and utterly uninformed nonsense
Show me a policy announcement that explicitly recognises brexit is a failure on its own terms and that meets the position of current voters then.
Ah. So “we’ve not reversed Brexit” has become “we’re the same as Reform” Ignoring the work done to fix the EU relationship and remove multiple barriers that Brexit erected. And because of your attitude of “it’s not been fixed immediately!” you’ll waste your vote and allow BREXITERS back in. 👍
I've not said Labour are the same as reform, just that they're chasing the same voters. There is only one way to remove the barriers erected by brexit and it isn't by tinkering around the edges of the policy catastrophe beloved of that minority.
And Labour is doing this. If you think Starmer can just wander into Brussels and announce “we’re back lads. Sorry about all the “you’re Nazis” stuff” you’re deluded.
The benefit of going to a leader in the world to New York State. So Stupid.
The most idiot thing a country ever did…until we elected Trump.
Perhaps Trump will give Starmer permission to re- apply.
I voted for Labour at the General Election. I wish I had voted for the Party committed to rejoining the EU, the Liberal Democrats. From now on I will vote for the Party that commits to rejoin the EU. No Referendum, just a straight forward commitment!
The LDs aren’t committed to rejoining the EU, they are committed to looking at it eventually after rejoining the SM first (non-viable). They can promise the world, but stuff like that is no more realistic than Farage saving £300bn on dei cuts
I believed the LDs once on tuition fees. Got a Tory government instead.
Tell me of any Government where that argument DOESN'T apply.
What argument? That they dropped a popular policy so they could serve as Tory whipping boys?
I seem to recollect they did manage to rein in some of the more extreme efforts of the Conservatives. Nonetheless, I completely understand your frustration and ire.
Not as dramatically and catastrophically though.
Good point, but 1) I think things have moved on, and 2) the LDs were not the Government, they were a small part of the coalition and some compromises are forced upon you.
They were the key component in the tories being able to form a govt. That position gives you all the power.
They didn't have to enable a Tory government though. It was a choice. Then they supported austerity.
Can't UK just join back? Nobody in EU would have an issue with it.
Those that voted for it didn’t educate themselves. And that’s the problem everywhere, handing over the power of the vote to morons who don’t educate themselves. Then you get situations like brexit and a fucking felon for president of the USA.
You made the mistake of letting the right get a foothold with propaganda. They aren't leaving until they've taken your healthcare retirement the treasury and your military and every asset they can privatize leaving you with massive debt. Welcome to right wing government Hunger Games edition.
The Labour government pretends it’s not happening.
To think that this stupid ignorant government knows that if even if they join just the customs union, the good will from the markets believing that Britain has finally recovered it senses will immediately mean lower borrowing costs and growth in gdp as small businesses are freed to export.
Yes and if the fuckers had lost they’d still be out there calling for another vote. Maybe it’s time for that vote.
while Reform's polling is through the roof? It feels like a mismatch.
IMHO that 29% will not change much over the next few years. Sadly, there is a minority that will fanatically support our eu exit no matter the cost.
Interesting that the 29% is roughly the same as the current polling figures for #Reform. But #FPTP could well hand Reform an overall parlianmentary majority on that 29%. Bizarre
We all know numbers in polls, votes etc can be manipulated, elections don't reflect will of the people. Tyrants like Trump/Netanyahu +Corporate backing will rule the world if not stopped. Johnson tried his hand as World King & failed but his democracy destroying legacy; policies/laws remain in play
Protectionism and isolationism always results in a diminished nation economically and politically
The weapons-grade irony of rapidly diminishing support for Brexit at the same time as increasing support for the guy who, more than anyone else, made it happen!! It’s almost like there are a lot of very stupid people in our country.
Yeah but that’s the fault of remoaners, EU, everyone else other than him and also he’s Donald “what files” Trumps mate and despite being private school educated has found his working class man of the people voice
I mean, the basic reason to throw out the Brexit vote was that the day after, the pro-Brexit side threw out the promise that leaving would save zillions of pounds for the NHS. Brexiteers have been full of BS since day one.
What the Fuck????? 29%!!!!! Are they brain dead?
Yes, unfortunately the big frogs want to maintain their small pond and apparently they run things. Reminder: the Lib Dems have 72 seats and are pro #rejoinEU reform have 4.
But other polls tell us that the next PM will be Nigel Farage. Maybe those people who want another referendum should turn up to vote at general elections?
More importantly, those who don't want him all need to vote for the same other party.
It will probably take less than 29% of people to vote for Farage at the next general election to make him PM
Proportional voting!
Proving what I’ve always said, as high as 3/10 people in the UK, you could maybe even extrapolate that across Europe and the world, are f**king nimrods!
And yet Fake Farage, chief architect of Brexit, former MEP in EU parliament - which he rarely attended except to tell xenophobic lies & claim expenses; finally, after 8 attempts, the richest MP in HOC, funded by fossil fuel/oil corporations, is promoted by r/wing media as the next PM? Toxic Farage😬
I think he actually may only be a bit of a tool. .....of fossil fuel/oil corporations, right wing media and the global 1%.
Only 29% would elect to touch the stove again after burning their hand. "Maybe it isn't hot this time."
Brexit has been shown to fail. Journalists and politicians failed the UK. They continue to fail the UK.
What's wrong with this 29%? What benefits do they see that I don't?
Education, Education, Education
Doing a pretty rough calculation, turns out rejoining the EU with full benefits and cutting back virtually all tangible goods trade with the US would make us significantly better off. I realise it’s far more complex and maybe a bit costlier, but come on- that has to be worth it doesn’t it?
The sea has to rise faster.
Right wing media owned by billionaires suckered the Brits into voting against their own self interests just like they suckered many Americans into voting for a pedophile rapist and 34X convicted felon.
The time has surely come.
I am convinced that Brexit was a Russian GRU propaganda op, just like Demexit and Calexit.
The pre-curser to what’s being done in the U.S. now.
Fact. It was definitely a practice run
That 29 is the Reform vote. This could still be catastrophic for the UK. Wake up everyone
I don't think people understood what drugs it was before. Didn't they think that it was a way to kick out all the "foreigners"? That's one way to use one's xenophobia against them I guess
We told them so....
Late and bitter awakening. Foreseeable from the beginning. People just seem unable to defy cheaters like Farage, Trump et.al. So they have to pay the price, time and again. #Brexit #MAGA
Idiots must be idiots. Remember that people voted for a horrible person, a crook, a friend of pedophiles, an imbecile with heavy makeup just because the eggs price ticked up a bit. Fuck the voters. Fuck them.
Exactly this.
It needs to stick to Fararge like dog shit on a new pair of trainers.
It’s almost like here. A third of people Are just not smart.
Hmmm same 29% that poll for Farage. Coincidence?
I think not.
100% but the City of London has a veto. Rejoining would mean their secret tax avoidance empire would be threatened.
Brexit was a successful Russian operation... Just like the "election" of King Drumpf in 2016. Both have significantly destabilized the West. 😡⚖️
Not hyperbole... The Russians began infiltrating the West long ago. www.bbc.com/news/world-e...
Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap... www.politico.eu/article/nige...
It was a move of total idiocy.
Even the Brexitgraph says so. (Paywall). www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202...
It's time for our English friends to come back to the rest of us. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes, as long as they learn from them.
Plebs need to get a Fecking grip on how how they are been used and understand how their vote Counts ¡
Yet another example of where a massive public consensus - Brexit, renationalisation, wealth tax, gaza, decarbonisation - is simply blocked by unaccountable vested interests. The gap between the governed and those who govern them has never been greater.
If people weren’t so stupid and gullible (and racist) they wouldn’t have backed it then.
Did they even know what they were agreeing to?
Tables needn't be turning if enough people had voted in the first place. Voter apathy, they didn't think it could happen. It was corruption and lies that won.
Johnson et al should be in jail.
Such an Own Goal to leave the EU. Dummies.
Self-immolation sucks.
Strange how the labour government are obsessed and struggling to save a billion pounds here and there, when there's £100bn sitting there with a brexit reversal.
The £100bn was meant to be lost GDP. But that's not tax. Say you get £30-40bn actual in tax from that. Then you have to pay £25bn every year to be in the Single Market, which you may, based on pre 2016 get £8bn back. They you have to pay the EU the customs duty you now collect, say another £3bn 🤔
Hate never produces good outcomes. When will humans learn this?
Let's run the great 2016 IQ test again now that more Brits have learned what the EU does and why it matters!
I definitely wouldn't want to rejoin with Die Führerin as President. EU warmongering politics is a danger to Europe. A single market and customs union deal would be sufficient.
Well, that isn't on offer and there is no Führerin. The idea that we Brits can prosper 'renfermés sur notre île, loin des bruits du monde' (to paraphrase Maupassant) is pure fantasy. We need to work with, not against the rest of Europe.
There is no Führerin most certainly. A return to the SM/CU is not yet being entertained or discussed in any way at all - but actually in relative terms, it would be a less stumbly path back to the eventual road to being a full part of the EU again.
An explanation to voters how returning to the SM can take away the worst self harm of Brexit would go further still in preparing people for facing up to what the new terms of EU membership would actually entail.
Dropping the idiotic red lines to enable this would also engage the EU properly & be a genuine vehicle for building proper trust with them. Totally unlike this phony & disingenuous re-set which is only devised to mug people off over the oxymoron of 'make Brexit work'.
Alas, Starmer appeases the burghers of the Red Wall, who were the most beguiled the 'fear and loathing' narrative of Brexit and voted against their own best interests. They were hit hardest by Johnson's Brexit deal, so they must be distracted with, well, more fear and loathing! 'Stop the boats!'
Wow- couldn't resist a bit of racism there, could you? Maybe do some actual research about the EU and how Europe functions before posting in future so you don't look quite so bigotted?
Salience, salience, salience… like immigration and trans issues… if there were another referendum (parties lacking the courage to make joining part of a manifesto) then the press inc the BBC would be back with the idiots from the IEA, extra Furridge etc and that 29% would shift adverse to joining
Sure that’s what the graph says. Sadly it’s lost roughly 15% each year. So it’s just caught up with where it was in 2016.
But as the article says Investment is now at record levels so by definition the gap is narrowing. The Brexit effect is increasingly over. The UK, according to the IMF, will grow faster than both France and Germany in 2025 and 2026. The EU is now facing a financial crisis so .. 🤔
The EU about to collapse. Brexit affect over. Jesus wept.
I didn't say it was about to collapse. I said it has a financial crisis. As reported by the Economists at the LSE 🤔
Look at the graph. It’s had a permanent impact. It might be going back up again but from a level much lower than it would have.
And we should be reminded daily that Brexshit is on Farage.
All the while the government says they will make Brexit work. They’re hot on growing the economy, yet leave this huge barrier in place.
this will sometime happen after a catastrophic face-plant.
What an utter waste of the last 9yrs; thanks largely to the greed of big business, venture capitalists, right wing media morons and the utter stupidity of those who refused to see that they were the cannon fodder.
They knew all this at the time but so many wanted Johnson to bring back the empire and their status as subjects thereto. Conveniently forgetting that most subjects were dirt poor. Never mind, a bit of bread and a paltry circus…
Those who require the benefit of hindsight lack foresight.
Still 29% stupid or just plain old 29% nasty?
Famously, the crazification factor is 27%. rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crazifi...
Love that, crazification factor. Superb.
Shocking! 29% of the country are morons? Seems like it.
Expecting a big drop when ETIAS starts in October, despite the usual histrionic headlines from MSM.
what would it take to come back to tue EU, tail between legs?
There was never a time support for staying in the EU dipped below 29% - sadly that's irrelevant now we're out The path to joining EU involves acclimatising UK voters to compromises involved - gaining popular support for them as a price worth paying Is Labour brave enough to do this? Not at present
The UK died with devolution. The English middle class (you and other remainers) do not know how to win over non metropolitan England. Brexi was the start.
Always was, and remains a short-sighted and imho a nasty idea
I wouldn't say "nasty" but certainly Brexit was, and continues to be, a spectacularly dumb decision
Doesn't matter, the UK is not getting back in. Hopefully.
We tried to tell you.
Never underestimate how gullible, naive, influenceable and ignorant people are. Just look across the pond that they could vote the orange criminal in *twice* ffs.
Yeah, but Reform is leading in the polls because people actually haven’t learned anything.
That's a very obvious logical fallacy! 29 - 30% support Reform, leading in the polls, supporting Brexit! There used to be 52% supporting brexit, which means another 23% (along with the existing 48% EU) have literally changed their minds!
Brexit was, is and always will be a stupid idea, benefitting only the wealthiest few, and those outside who actively seek Britain's decline.
Reform has never had as much support as they do today.
Even the Gods fight in vain against stupidity.
More importantly: leaves UK citizens 3rd class Europeans—less rights than 🇭🇷 who, only 20yrs ago were at full blown war! It’s disgraceful & MUST end, we fought twice for the liberation of Europe, only to now have less rights than the Europeans we fought for, if you want to look look at it like tht!
Well, that's what UK citizens voted for.
As ridiculous as that sounds, that is the reality! They voted to have less and to be third class, Europeans! #StupidEngland
Indeed.
Fewer rights. Please.
I’m not sure how many are left to give away! If these delinquents have their way, they’d even give up the rights of the ECHR 🙈 #StupidEngland
Putin got so much for so little Trump looked at Brexit and said hold my beer Tariffs are economic sanctions you put on yourself
As have said, elsewhere, ~20% UK population actively racist. Further 10% hard of thinking, easily duped by right wing media feeding them self-serving bile. Think this reflects the baseline for Leave. No matter how much further evidence accrued, not gonna change this "core's" mind.
How do Nigel Farage, Liz Truss, and Bojo constitute 29% of the population?
Surely with the 10 year anniversary looming we’ll be due some Sunday papers moratoriums …
too late. People should have thought it when they were asked in the referendum
Will 'O the People, innit. The Brexit Referendum remains an uninvestigated crime scene. office.inkcloud.net/index.php/s/...
All the racist fuckwits were wrong, im shocked.
If they will have us given the state we are in.
How do we square such a great poll for those of us who are pro EU with the polls for Fartrage and the Deform Party? Interested in your view.
Putin did his job well when he flooded the UK with propaganda and amped up racism.
Honest question-- If this is the case, why is it so "impossible" to rejoin the EU? Some repeat "the people voted for it", but it's clear most who did had no idea what they were truly voting for. ?
Shocking how stupid and stubborn nearly a third of Britons is.
Pie chart time, brexit support & Reform voters - Bingo, 100% match!
And Starmer.
But also unsurprising
Take a look at the numbers though - it doesn’t seem to be this high?