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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

Why are we investigating Leclerc/Russell #F1 #DutchGP

aug 31, 2025, 1:51 pm • 0 0

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Jonty @jontyscorner.bsky.social

Off track. Harsh, but if the replay is accurate that all wheels were off, it's an illegal overtake. Could be for the weave which would be more worthy of it tbh

aug 31, 2025, 1:53 pm • 2 0 • view
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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

So you can just put others off even if they have the inside

aug 31, 2025, 1:55 pm • 0 0 • view
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Hit me with your Genie's bottle. @durrellb.bsky.social

Thank the stupid first to the apex rules that F1 thinks are racing. You don't have to every time leave a space.

aug 31, 2025, 1:57 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jonty @jontyscorner.bsky.social

He wasn't put off, he'd already gone off to make the move, he just misjudged it and went a tiny bit too far. At least that's what the only angle seems to show but it's not conclusive.

aug 31, 2025, 1:56 pm • 2 0 • view
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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

I personally feel Russell should've left room as Charles was alongside before the corner even started

aug 31, 2025, 1:57 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jonty @jontyscorner.bsky.social

It was super exciting and looked awesome, but it was ultimately a Gran Turismo move. Even with more space, Charles is still using George's car as a brake.

aug 31, 2025, 2:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

I personally feel this is racing, damage shouldn't decide the outcome either

aug 31, 2025, 2:03 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jonty @jontyscorner.bsky.social

It has to be considered though. Damage proves without any doubt that there was contact caused.

aug 31, 2025, 2:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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Filipe M. @macfilipe.bsky.social

Watching the replay, Charles seems to be half alongside into the right hander (braking much later), and as Russel turns left he just lets the car drift to the run off. Front right is fully out, rear right is unclear, but when he barges into Russell his front end is out of the track.

aug 31, 2025, 2:05 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

He's alongside You leave space, otherwise you're causing yourself damage which is exactly what happened

aug 31, 2025, 2:06 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jonty @jontyscorner.bsky.social

Doesn't matter. The rules are crap but by those rules it's whoever is ahead, Charles was never even close to being ahead.

aug 31, 2025, 2:08 pm • 1 0 • view
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Filipe M. @macfilipe.bsky.social

You cannot cause yourself damage if there isn't an obstacle to crash into, so no. As to "you leave space", the (silly? sure) rules claim you leave space if the front wheels of the overtaking car are level with the mirrors -- which they only were because Charles came at him from outside the track.

aug 31, 2025, 2:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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Filipe M. @macfilipe.bsky.social

As for the right hander, the same rules claim the car in front needs to leave space it the car on the outside is *ahead*, which Charles wasn't. This will either be a racing incident, or Leclerc gets a (moot now) penalty.

aug 31, 2025, 2:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

No, a lot of incidents have been caused by the defending car not leaving enough space and as such inflicting themselves damage See Lawson/Sainz earlier this race where Lawsom had no reason to take the racing line on exit

aug 31, 2025, 2:17 pm • 0 0 • view
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Filipe M. @macfilipe.bsky.social

And yet, by the same rulebook, Sainz was never alongside Lawson's front wing, hence the 10 sec penalty for causing a collision. I'm not saying I agree with that rule, but it's one, and if applied consistently we wouldn't be mad at the stewards every single race...

aug 31, 2025, 2:22 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

And they deserve that

aug 31, 2025, 2:22 pm • 1 0 • view
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Filipe M. @macfilipe.bsky.social

Probably because Leclerc decided that the run-off area would be an excellent launchpad into Russell's sidepod?... Quite spectacular to watch, but not sure that was entirely within spec.

aug 31, 2025, 1:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lena @puncakemotorsport.bsky.social

Both cars kept within track limits, and Russell should've known he should've left space there since Charles was alongside before the chicane even started

aug 31, 2025, 1:54 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jonty @jontyscorner.bsky.social

The only angle we've seen so far suggests he was off, not conclusive though.

aug 31, 2025, 1:55 pm • 1 0 • view