Yet another capitulation to Reform, when all the evidence shows that following the far right agenda is a disaster for centrist parties. Politics 101, which Starmer has once again entirely failed to grasp.
Yet another capitulation to Reform, when all the evidence shows that following the far right agenda is a disaster for centrist parties. Politics 101, which Starmer has once again entirely failed to grasp.
Starmer is a terrible actor, so he's unable to communicate anything with apparent sincerity, but he is genuinely extremely right-wing.
Bastard Signalling is mainstream, infectious and well at home with docile weather vanes like this cock
Has he got various sinister policy/polling types whispering in his ear?
He knows it, it's just that he & his team are far-right. It's the only explanation for them repeatedly and gleefully doing far-right things .
Labour are right of centre. I venture to suggest that "centrism" is inherently right of centre as paradoxical as that sounds. It is a label predicated on an undefined point between two undefined extremes. Utterly meaningless. The Cosy Crime of politics.
It's so obviously a mistake that it can't be a mistake. Starmer isn't stupid. He is ceding the narrative to fascists. He is doing this whilst enabling a genocide. There has to be a point where we stop saying "surely he must understand?!" and accept the truth that he does understand.
I’m way more concerned that he is morally okay with this stuff than it being strategically inept tbh
Yep, welcomes white JudeoChristian refugees from Ukraine, supports genocide of brown Muslims in Gaza. Just as racist as Farage?
I had hoped that a human rights lawyer might have a bit of something about him but steadily, inexorably, he’s coming across ever more as a bit of a tool(maker’s son)…
I don’t understand why he debased himself so much to get the job, only to be this shite at it
And what he did to Corbyn. Even if you’re not a fan of Corbyn, the way Starmer stepped on him to get to his position is poor.
More ppl voted for Corbyn than Starmer. Starmer lied to get the leadership vote.
he is awful, so disappointed in Labour
Has he failed to grasp it? Or is it just not part of their plan? At this stage, they're either incredibly stupid strategically (as well as normally repugnant), or their backers never aimed for a second term and just want to shift politics further right.
I just realized I've been reading your posts on Blue Sky and not on x, and I haven't changed anything else about my x account, because I rarely post anything and I only read X in the form of a list, from my perspective it's like the two platforms are combined,
Didn't starm create falsehoods regarding Jeremy Corbyn? Makes one think ..
Starmer's dog-whistle to the mob. Grim.
There's a massive void on the left that he could be filling. Very like the massive void inside his head.
Disgraceful, spineless but expected…Labour party? Skinner and “2 Jags” we need your like now!
Every time Starmer opens his mouth it confirms why I’ll NVLA.
Garage doesn't need/want to become PM, he plays PMs.
Moreover, isn't he also handing justification to those who now go, take matters into their own hands "to bring the date forward", pitchforks and all? I'd say, it's not a failure to grasp voter dynamics, and Starmer isn't capitulating to Reform. It's where he stands: Outside the Geneva Convention.
Intentionally not looking to his European partners where it had been shown that what he is doing is exactly the worst strategy to follow.
Indeed. Unfortunately, being centrist is causing the problem. Labour should remember who voted for them and why, and they should note that it wasn't Reform voters that gave them their majority.
I wish we had a government that hated poverty as much as it hated asylum seekers.
Unbelievable!
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I may even end up despising Starmer more than I despise Farage. In my opinion it's worse for a former human rights lawyer to be appeasing racists than it is to actually be the racists.
Maybe he wants to lose
Truly disgusting - l wonder where he's going to move the people in these hotels to? No mention of this - imaginen how it feels being stuck in a hotel and not knowing anything about whete uou will be moved to in the future? Pure cruelty.
If this far right rhetoric was doing Labour any favours at all, you could almost believe it's just a cynical ploy to appeal to the Reform vote. But since it's failing to do that, while alienating Labour's core support, one can only assume someone at the heart of Labour genuinely believes in it.
He's not really much of a politician - he's not really much of anything. However, Blue Labour are a pretty vile bunch, Glasner and McSweeny are particularly nasty. This is, I believe, where all this pandering to the racists comes from - it will be the death of the Labour Party.
He isn't ignorant. He isn't confused. He is defending traditional British values.
Sounds like a Moron McWeenie masterplan, doomed to fail. These people do not understand politics and I’d be surprised if they understand much at all.
I listened to that moron on radio 4 today, and also about flags posted on street lamps and roundabouts, he didn't answer that question properly, absolute pathetic caving in to hate in our society, should be calling it out
Maybe he, and they, the Labour Party are now far right. maybe its less a capitulation and more showing exactly who they are now.
"capitulation" suggests this is not who they are, but rather something they have been scared into doing. The Forde report and their treatment of Black and Asian MPs and candidates shows it is just who they are.
I think a Starmer is trying to disarm Reform, sadly it won’t work - instead he needs to unite all of us who stand opposed to such hatred & rally to the counter argument - what he is doing is a strategic catastrophe.
He wasn't trying to disarm reform when he ignored the report he commissioned that pointing out that the Labour party had a problem with Islamophobia and anti Black racism. When people keep telling you who they are eventually you have to believe them. Starmer is a racist.
This, so much this.
Can't disagree with you Ed, but I suspect he is trying to disarm Reform, and he is misguided in doing so IMHO. I think we all accept that politics is corrupt, you only have to follow the money to work that out.
I think he'd like to beat them but not nearly so much as he cares about beating Zack Polanski.
Starmer is a dangerous neo-liberal fool
Sounds like they are relying on dodgy focus group stuff. About time Starmer started leading instead of trying to follow public opinion.
Is he supposed to say ‘I don’t get it?’ Because I get it too and I couldn’t be further from Reform and completely disagree with Reform and their followers
It’s probably that old Russian fear of being thrown down 60 flights of stairs in a Bungalow or being asked to check a windows latch in a skyscraper 😳
Despite saying he gets it, everything he does seems to demonstrate he absolutely doesn't get it at all and is seemingly intent handing the advantage to Reform. Dangerous times....
He does get it.... he gets the concerns of racists & little Brexity England.
I’m beginning to suspect that Starmer is not the brightest star in the firmament, but more like just another turd floating in the Westminster cesspit. 😒
There is such an hotel, a couple of miles from my home. I see the residents, coming and going from a nearby supermarket. They strike me as lonely and lost. I feel sorry for them and all they endure. I do not want to see them gone. I just want to see them well.
I think most people feel this way when they actually live near the ppl they fear out of a prejudice
I want them the little Englanders to grow a bloody brain, instead of listening to Farage
It's because he's an idiot, listening to other idiots. Their meetings must put an Iannucci script to shame.
It's the same as the Democrats, they're controlled opposition whose actual job is to stop people like Corbyn or anything progressive.
Constantly telling people that your political adversaries are right has never worked out well for any politician, as far as I'm aware
Horrendous, and to think I used to vote for them, never again.
Starmer isn’t great at politics, but politics is difficult. Blair was good at politics, and we complained about that too - too superficial, too manipulative, making the wrong friends. What I want is someone who is good at advancing an agenda I approve of. There is currently little prospect of that.
Starmer like Blair sold their souls to Murdoch/Mail. We need #MORe Media Ownership Revolution Now!!
Listen to this 👇 www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ZD...
That's centrism 101. They're always secret right wingers.
Exactly what happened in 🇳🇱 where 'liberals' leader Yesilguz opened the door for for collaboration with Wilders' extreme right 'freedom' party prior to elections. She LOST, but that's not all. It resulted in a toxic, incapable, ineffective & incoherent cabinet in July-24. Next elections.... Oct-25.
Who will become Prime Minister when Keir Starmer defects to Reform UK?
I'm sorry, but I have seen it everywhere: people like you, dissing constantly on the progressive government not being sufficiently progressive, in the process amplifying the fake right-wing culture wars, and completely ignoring any progressive policies. Working hard for Farage, aren't you?
Just carry on shooting the messengers. That'll fix it.
@georgemonbiot.bsky.social, your capacity for thinking that this is just (bad) tactics from Starmer really bewilders me. Given his ongoing support for an actual genocide why can't you accept the far simpler explanation that *he really is a far-right racist*?
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't! It's just boring now. Every time he opens his mouth, some bloke pipes up to slag him off, waiting there ready pounce because he hadn't said what YOU thought he should have. Pathetic men, sick to death of them, no better than Farage and his Neanderthals.
Bless his cotton socks🙄 Or perhaps you are just a partisan Starmerite apologist for the indefensible luvvy? Just a thought....
Starmer rode a landslide on the promise of change - because people were sick of Tory division. Then he gets in and copies the same playbook. Different colour rosette, same old shit.
Ye gods. Being consistently and persistently tone deaf is a heck of an achievement. For our prime minister. Sigh
Starmer is proving to be astonishing hopeless and such a disappointment for a Labour PM
I so agree. I had such high hopes. What a disappointment he is.
I had low hopes but I still agree with 'what a disappointment'
Completely agree He needs to call them out Like Heath and Wilson called out Enoch Powell They didn’t say ‘I completely get why you don’t want black people here’ They called what he said evil and that’s still the majority view He should get a grip
Sir Keir needs to stop attempting to play catch-up, set his own agenda and start using his massive majority to turn things around.
I can't help but think that this is all some kind of premeditated plan. Am I seriously supposed to believe that there is absolutely nobody that advises or works for Labour that is capable of pointing out the destructive nature of this continued capitulation to Reform voters?
What about a camp full of Ukrainian male refugees?
His line manager is happy it’s a distraction from genocide
Seriously, if Starmer is not up to this job - which he patently isn't - he should make way for someone who understands how politics works, how to connect with people, and what they actually want from politics. Clue: it's not Continuity Tory.
The total lack of any kind of story for us to believe in is the clearest sign that neither this besuited dog nor the tails that wag him have an iota of imagination, purpose or courage
But the english voted for him knowing what he was: a rightwing lawyer‼️
Isn’t the problem the system, clearly copied from Lemmings? Politicians don’t work nor does the system, it & its leaders are demonstrably destroying life itself & gaoling those peacefully highlighting the fact. Politicians & their corrupt system are the problem, unfortunately extinctions at stake.
This is not continuity Tory, this is nazi party shit.
Who do you think is best suited to take his place? I do feel we need an alternative, but I'm not sure who that is.
Andy Burnham would be good.
... Clive Lewis, even Rayner would be an improvement. She's hated by the right wing press which is a good sign.
I don't think Raynor has enemies in the press due to her staunch egalitarian, leftist principals. She is (depressingly) loathed by the right because she is a) a woman and b) working class.
Not one senior member of the labour party is calling out his bullshit. Craven traitors the lot of them
You know, I'm honestly starting to think that Rishi Sunak was a better politician than Starmer.
Over 100 million worldwide…in the US, trying to cancel people that that have been vetted and we offered asylum…everything is upside down…
The most hideous being the afghani translators who helped the us fleeing the taliban
And after Miller gutted the program before leaving office we finally were able to help rescue them…only to be thrown out by IRAN and Pakistan
He's going to carry on suppressing the left for as long as he can.
That's the point of Starmer
Absolutely!
He needs to make a speech, and be frank, explaining how many migrants there are, the tiny percentage of whom are asylum seekers, and tell people to get their act together and stop being racist. So what if that turns off the racists?
Majority are Asylum seekers escaping persecution
There are more than 10 million immigrants living in the UK. The number of asylum seekers is tiny compared to that.
Fair enough, i thought you were saying Asylum seekers are a problem
Nope.
BUT as an "unconditional supporter of zionism" Starmer IS racist !! #StarmerMustGo
Well, once you've given the "island of strangers" speech I'm not really sure you can turn around and give the "don't worry racists, there aren't so many immigrants, really" speech. Labour is done for anyone with any heart.
Indeed. That’s speech he made was quite scary.
This. He really does. Stop putting out tweets and saying shite to show how tough he is on illegal migration etc., that just helps feed the divisions at same time as pissing off labour's liberal base even more. It is a terrible self defeating strategy that isn't helping anything or anyone.
This is what happens when you have someone in charge with no guiding principles. A follower rather than a leader.
When you get to a certain level of journalistic ability and reach, you're in danger of doing hapless politicians' jobs for them. I just suggested this to another journalist and author, but I very much had you in mind as well as I wrote the words.
@georgemonbiot.bsky.social he's a coward when we need heroes. #Starmer #UKPOL #UKPOLITICS
Currently, I'd settle for borderline competence with a reasonable set of principles.
Starmer is also a supporter of genocide
As usual you are absolutely right.
It will just be another neoliberal suit being managed by the Labour extremist right wing.
You guys need to get to the streets. This is a fascism speedrun in the UK.
But he's not the one in charge, McSweeney is and as he's a [genuine] right-winger [not just NeoLib Corporate puppet], it seems everything is going exactly according to plan.
Is this part of 'phase 2'?
It's not a disaster if you genuinely want Reform to win.
He is a disaster, copying Reform won't win him an election, suppose to be a human rights lawyer, not the same
I have the hotel near me. The people who are staying there are polite, and are no threat to my area. My son is around the same age. I feel so sad for them , they have lost their families.
In his mind he's already won. He knows he's gonna make loads of money once he's gone.
When labour got in the number of asylum seekers waiting to be processed was over 120,000 It will take time to process and longer as more arrives, when the numbers are minimal there will be no more asylum hotels I’m sure you know that’s what he means
PM Tony Blair is an anagram of " I'm Tory Plan B " is Starmer a Trojan Tory too?
Find it hard to believe he was a human rights lawyer at one point in time. He’s basically agreed with the racists.
His nickname is increasing likely to be one term Keir. If he lasts that long.
First they came for the asylum seekers And I did not speak out Because I was not an asylum seeker Then they came for the our civil rights And I did not speak out Because I was not concerned about civil rights Then they came for all of us, and it was too late as the UK was now fascist.
he is such a twat.... it's as if they don't want to be in government! end up as a tiny party, shouting from the edges.
Maybe he isn’t following the far right, maybe he’s just a complete bastard.
Has McSweeney got him by the balls? It looks very much like it. Why else, apart from not being very good at politics, would he come out with stuff like this? He seems intent on being the last-ever Labour PM. At what point in all this do we stop calling it the Labour Party?
Honestly, if Labour think they can defeat Reform by pandering to every demagogic talking point, they could just jump to the logical conclusion; defect to Reform, form a Reform government now, and just be Reform themselves. What they're doing at the moment isn't really any less absurd than that.
WTF? Starmer is not a stupid man. Unless he lives in a complete vacuum, he is aware that there are thugs AND the leader of his main opposition calling for the actual murder of innocent people, so why the hell does he say such ridiculous things?
It's absolutely bonkers - who is he listening to that he thinks that this is the best approach? He's haemorrhaging support.
The best one yet is his claim he hangs an English flag in his flat and sits with the union flag behind him. Someone needs to have a word with Starmer and let him know he is scaring some of us with this extremist rhetoric.
Labour isn't a centrist party nor are they 'moderate'. Labour right wing are in charge (the 'adults') and this is who they are. They would always chose the extreme right over the left whom they are ideologically the opposite of. They will always choose tyranny over socialism.
Disgusting
Keir Starmer is what some in the political punditry class might refer to as a “political fuckwit”. There is no softening of just how utterly idiotic the man is from a strategic perspective.
Most followers will know what the “Overton window” is, and that you can “shift” or “move” it. Starmer is one of those rare individuals capable of shifting the Overton window away from where his voters are. He’s actively his own worst enemy from an electoral strategy perspective.
Starmer is an intelligence operative whose mandate it was to destroy the leftist resurgence occurring through Corbyn on behalf of the oligarchs. He has achieved that successfully. He is continuing to push the UK to the right because the billionaire consensus is fascism, as seen in the US.
Sure feels that way including in the us with a few
Krapnov
Judging by the outcomes of his policies and words, this explanation has a fairly high likelihood of being correct.
www.declassifieduk.org/keir-starmer...
They shouldn’t be in hotels. It’s a total failure of the last government
Where would you put them, tents, disused army barracks, which the nasty Tories did and had to close them down, like Napier barracks, those flag waving little Englanders should try living in one
Labour: no guts, no vision, no hope. Delivery, delivery, delivery! Of what FFS?!