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batafier.bsky.social @batafier.bsky.social

Is this the Cameron who caused Brexit by setting up the vote? And there is the Sun and Daily Mail who relentlessly lied for decades against the EU. And Farage who's pet project it was. And Cambridge Analytica who allowed voter manipulation. Yet you blame Corbyn.....

jul 24, 2025, 1:03 pm • 1 0

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Paul Chandler @paulchandler.bsky.social

You compared him to other party leaders. Their character is not relevant to your "fact". There's plenty of blame for Brexit to go round. Corbyn certainly gets some. The worst possible Labour leader to have in charge during the Brexit years.

jul 24, 2025, 1:06 pm • 3 0 • view
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batafier.bsky.social @batafier.bsky.social

You are not talking facts but interpretation. I read a lot about why Corbyn did what he did and the Labour circumstances. Corbyn made sense to me. Delicately supporting EU but coaxing a democratic proces. But the PLP were stupid and sabotaged it and the rest is history. And a bancrupt UK.

jul 24, 2025, 1:32 pm • 1 0 • view
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Paul Chandler @paulchandler.bsky.social

Corbyn wasn't really interested in Brexit. He went on holiday, he let others drive, you make it sound like he had big plans & was an architect of stuff, he's just into his pet things and the EU wasn't one. He was making jam down the allotment. (You used the word fact, I was just referring to that)

jul 24, 2025, 2:57 pm • 1 0 • view
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batafier.bsky.social @batafier.bsky.social

That is your interpretation based on 1 holiday and a lot of spin. I was amazed at the time of other available data and stories giving a much clearer picture of Corbyn's plans but the media were only obsessed with spin and lies. That spin got through to you, not the rest.

jul 24, 2025, 3:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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Paul Chandler @paulchandler.bsky.social

🥴 - "The media". It's not interpretation, I don't think anyone's ever argued against much of what was documented in detail in the Shipman book. It's who Corbyn is, more bothered about Cuba than the EU. It's been great reliving the campaign with you and have a great evening.

jul 24, 2025, 4:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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batafier.bsky.social @batafier.bsky.social

Never trust one book. Good evening too.

jul 24, 2025, 4:10 pm • 0 0 • view