Happy to be corrected on this but I don’t think it’s even really speculating to say that if this isn’t from a regular intravenous infusion for an incurable disease (or blood thinner use for a different kind of incurable disease) then he’s in worse shape than people are thinking
Here's a picture from that mystery Saturday visit in November 2019 to Walter Reed:
I have a friend who takes Asprin to help keep her blood thin because of clots. She said she only has to bump her hand slightly and she bruises. Maybe fvck nuts trump is on Aspirin or some type of blood thinners.
Interesting that he has the same patch on his hand.
pic was summer 2020
Looking at Tineye, I see the first mention Aug 1, 2020 so
The reason I mentioned was there were no pics of that super mysterious trip to Walter Reed....also pic has guy with mask
Two shady Walter Reed visits and I conflated them.
That looks like a man full of saline.
You're now my favorite doc. 😂
I wonder what the rest of him looks like under his costume. If he’s getting regular infusions how would they be able to use the same hand access so often? Why not a picc line?
Based on other photos I've seen, the bruising is inconsistent with where they would be sticking him for an IV infusion. If he needed them frequently, and his veins are that bad, they'd definitely want a PICC. Whatever he has, I hope it's painful.
ditto
And that it take them AGES to find a vein.
I hope they know they should be using a central line and even a smaller gauge, and just stick him in a vein that rolls every time “accidentally” Or he refused the picc because he’s a big baby, and it would show under his polo when he played golf or something
Lol, yes. And no numbing gel for this manly man!
What are the odds the infusions are entirely benign? He's old and in bad shape and is constantly on the move. It could just be electrolytes and fluids to keep him active, or some other mix or random things they give people at IV bars.
I wondered if he was doing this but an elderly man with "chronic venous insufficiency" as the only public dx- so we're assuming CHF, right? And his ankles being so swollen... I'd be questioning what kinds of infusions he could have considering fluid balance. Those ✨cankles✨ 👀
Someone more versed in when fluids are indicated/contraindicated might chime in here but listen, if my grandmother's ankles looked like that there's no way she's remembering her lasix and she's FULL of sodium, like we got *problems*. If he's getting IVs they're not addressing it or he's in BAD shape
unless he’s getting routine labs for monitoring and they only have one vein they rely on in the hand?
There was speculation that he was on ozempic because it looks like he's lost a significant amount of weight over the past year. (He's still obese, but less so now). This suggests the weight loss could be from something else.
Wouldn’t it be poetic if it was sequela from his COVID infection?
Oh Blitzy buahhahaha
I suppose theoretically it could be from phlebotomy, but why the same location repeatedly?
Though I will say given his propensity to fire people who tell him things he doesn’t like, I can also see someone having a hard time and maybe digging.
some people will hit veins they figure will work. When his hand has been down like that, I can see that one vein that someone could poke, but that’s not always a guarantee you’ll get blood🤷🏻♀️ you should rotate sites but I’m aware not everyone does that for phlebotomy. Not best practice
Of course it's not best practice, but the evil part of me is smiling a bit at the thought of someone doing some extra digging to draw his blood lol
Yeah I can’t say I’d feel bad if someone was digging 🤣
the only reason I'm not looking for his obituary is bc I really want him to suffer as long as possible before he goes straight to hell without any of his stolen money or "bribes"
I'm just waiting for Jake Tapper to do a deep dive into this and come up with another book on Biden's health decline.🙄🙄
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Well fortunately I got my grave dancing shoes shined up after James Dobson kicked the bucket last week, so I'm ready when Trump is. Go to the light pawpaw, just go to the light
I’m pretty convinced his issues are primarily cardiac. He’s almost certainly on anticoagulation. Suspect CHF, maybe advanced kidney disease as well. Definitely mild to moderate dementia, perhaps vascular. All speculation but it fits available info.
I've heard people say the same, but he's also very old and shakes hands with people for a living. It's possible that these are just normal senile purpora.
The fact that he was thinking about the afterlife, and said so, is the biggest tell so far that he knows he’s for sure on borrowed time
That’s a bruise from an IV
Drug induced Hyperpigmentation?
Oh God I hope so. Whatever the worst, fastest moving disease happens to be would be great. I don't like being a person who wishes ill on another, but he's evil to his core. An antichrist, if there is such a thing, bringing about the apocalypse.
idk the old person I know with chf bruises in a stiff breeze, particularly his hands
Reminds me of a great Norm McDonald joke www.google.com/search?q=nor...
CHF is incurable (without transplant that a 79 year old likely wouldn’t be getting) and terminal
Cheney
oh yes I hope that his CHF is getting worse by the day!!! he looks awful
They slapped a new one in Cheney so who knows since the rules don't apply. But it's hard to hide that particular surgery.
There’s very few reasons your hands would be this extremely bruised multiple times over like at least 4 months now (?) when you’re the President of the United States and you’re 79 years old
isn't it basically some sort of renal or hearts failure. as in those are the only two general things, especially given the weird cankles, that explains why you'd be poking his hands all the time
Or cancer or a bad infection or some other things but all bad
If it’s cancer he’ll claim Joe Biden gave it to him and deport him and his family to Antarctica
WAG since I know someone with Hemochromatosis (build up of iron). The treatment requires routine blood filtering to remove excess iron. Diet can lower frequency. It’s most common in Northern Europeans.
Out of curiosity, what would some of those reasons be?
Lots of shaking hands - the elderly bruise easily - there was a whole story line about this in The West Wing where Alan Alda's character had to hide that he had a broken metacarpal due to all the handshaking.
But he also has bruises on his left hand
Could be almost pretty endless list but none of the answers are for things that anyone would want to have
We’re never more than a couple of days away from a social media account running this country.
Kumite! Kumite! Kumite!
Leprosy?
If he is getting infusions, he must have terrible veins if they are using his hands?
Depends on the infusion. Hand IVs are fine for most things, especially if you can get an 18g or 20g in there.
On a 79 year old? Come on, the only 79 year olds that I started IVs in their hands were 22 or 24g. Especially one on blood thinners, that drump is most likely on
I only every used 22/24g on kids. We kept them in a separate pediatric kit in the ER.
Anesthesiologist here. 22/24 g are indeed pediatric IVs
I used 24 in hands of patients in an outpatient pain center for conscious sedation. But yes, in the OR, only 22g in peds
I get regular infusions for an autoimmune disease and I almost always get them in my hands. Easy veins there, allows patients a little more movement while getting the infusion. I think it’s fairly typical (though I don’t think his bruising is caused by IVs, I’d guess)
I have a bleeding disorder and I get infusions nearly every week and I would never have them done in my hands. At 75 my hands bruised to easily and I have great veins in my forearms that don't hurt like they do in my hands
That makes sense for older people’s skin especially (I’m in my 30s so the hands are holding up well for now), and is kinda partially why I doubt these are IV bruises
Why are they using hand veins?
He has some good ones. And he has edema so may not have better options
Yeah, maybe. Or they have been overused for whatever treatment he is getting.
Could it be actinic purpura? Very common in old people (I speak from experience! ).
the 2 pics making the rounds the other day from reuters I feel like I am crazy, because I noticed that the photo later in the day showed his hand much more filled out & having more color in the un-nakeuped area Given how they like old timey things, is it possible they are draining fluid with leeches
Uh.. Jeremy Faust made a comment about “handshake bruising” from aspirin/blood thinners being plausible? I think that was the “official” line the last time.
anemia of various types auto immune issues cancer treatment severe infections
I've seen it 100s of times. Bruising on hands of elderly patients on Aspirin, Plavix, Coumadin. They have thin skin anyway. Hands are not great for regular IV infusion. You'd want vein larger, like antecubital. His hand bruising isnt significant (sorry to say.) Watch for a fall w head injury soon.
But why not use a more conspicuous access in the forearm?
You’ve seen the doctors this guy tends to surround himself with…
Right… you say PICC, they think…
😳😳😳
Too much fat?
Possibly. But an ultrasound is a very cheap device that solves the problem. They probably could make one covered in gold if asked…
"Trump has an incurable disease." Stop flirting with us, Doctor. *blushes*
Snorting speed has become insufficient, so they now hook him up to a Dr Morell go-go juice IV multiple times a day.
He is just a puppet! The puppet-makers behind Project 2025 are ready with their next puppet! Beware!!!
Things will not improve if he dies and Vance becomes POTUS.
Vance has negative charisma. Some Krampus wannabe yelling at people to thank him is not going to be head of a cult for very long.
If it was just regular infusions they would just use antecubital to hide the evidence.
He might have bad access from his edema
That should not be better in the hand than the AC, though.
Not a physician, but from caregiving & volunteer experience with older individuals, that kind of hand bruising to me is just indicative of 'man of a certain vintage on blood thinners who smacked their aged, thin-skinned hand against a door frame/golf cart/etc'
Remembering that he's had this before. Mitch too, if memory serves.
Agree. That can be a pretty bad sign, though. It’s not really just a normal part of aging
Agreed. However, if he's on blood thinners, the American people deserve to know that and the reports that masquerade as physical exams from this white house have not listed these.
This is true - I think the only two meds I remember them ever listing were aspirin and a statin(?). With the venous insufficiency, I'd be surprised if he's not also on a NOAC and that wouldn't be news, but that really should be mentioned during his *glowing* medical reviews
Agreed. It looks like a Coumadin hand but that's just more evidence of lying to the public. Statins are all they have released.
What about the venous insufficiency explanation?
My first thought was "coumadin bruise" which we see all the time. And if that's the case extremely likely to be because of a-fib too. Neither of which would be unexpected on that age group but they would never admit it.
