So weird that cows are mentally ill …

Cows aren't vegan

Here's your substantive reason: animals are here on this earth WITH us, not FOR us. So shut the fuck up.

Carnivore, Noun "An animal that feeds chiefly on the flesh of other animals." -The American Heritage® Student Science Dictionary, Second Edition. Copyright © 2014

Carnivore, Noun "an animal (such as a dog, fox, crocodile, or shark) that feeds primarily or exclusively on animal matter; any of an order (Carnivora) of animals that feed primarily or exclusively on animal matter" www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/c...

"animals are here on this earth WITH us, not FOR us" The dictionary disagrees Carnivore, Noun "(Biology) any other animal or any plant that feeds on animals" -Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014: www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionar...

"animals are here on this earth WITH us, not FOR us" Quite literally ALL of nature proves otherwise "about 63% of all animals are carnivores" www.science.org/content/arti....

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NOT an argument for veganism Try again

Here's another try: imagine you are in the most northern point of Africa, and you shake hand to a chimpansee. On the other side you shake hand to your father; he shakes hand to his father; ans so on. The chimpansee shakes hand to his father - who shakes hand to his father. 1/

At the most southern point of the continent, their great-great-... grandfathers will be one and the same person. Tell me, of al these living creatures, who has the right to live and to be happy; who can be imprisoned, slaughtered and eaten ? Where, and based on what, do you draw the line ? 2/2

"Where, and based on what, do you draw the line ?" WHAT "line"?

Who has the right to live (and be taken care of), who hasn't ? I never understood this: when you mistreat a dog, and i save the dog, then i'm a hero. When you mistreat a pig, and i save the pig; then i'm a criminal.

When the 2004 Tsunami in Java, Indonesia killed nearly THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND people, was that a "violation" of their "right" to live? When Hurricane Katrina killed over a thousand people in New Orleans in 2005, did that "violate" their "right" to live? NO Of course not no such "right" exists

Does that mean that in your opinion, we should not invest in protection against (for example) tsunamis ? Personally I think we should, because i think we have the right to live and feel happy.

"Who has the right to live" No one There is no such "right" The human species itself does not have the "right" to exist We--like every other living thing--live on Earth solely and exclusively because the Earth ALLOWS us to

"At the most southern point of the continent, their great-great-... grandfathers will be one and the same person." NO They really, really, REALLY won't Humans and chimpanzees have not shared a common ancestor for nearly TEN MILLION YEARS

But it doesn't the matter whether is one million, ten million, or a hundred million years: ALL living creatures come from the same cell.

"it doesn't the matter whether is one million, ten million, or a hundred million years" FALSE That is a LIE You share a common ancestor with all plants less then 3 billion years ago. Yet you eat plants So it DOES matter to you how distantly related you are to something you eat

"ALL living creatures come from the same cell." So how are you still alive? If , as you claim, you are unwilling to eat either animals OR plants? What's left? Rocks?

“The question is not, Can they reason?, nor Can they talk? but, Can they suffer? Why should the law refuse its protection to any sensitive being?" (Jeremy Bentham)

If the delusional insanity of veganism is not to be considered a mental illness [which it absolutely should be] then--as you yourself have proven--it should at the very least be taken as a telltale signature of a nearly complete lack of education and a deep and profound scientific illiteracy.

You know, in 1808 it was legal to kill a black person in the USofA. If at that moment someone would have predicted a black president in 2008, he would have been considered as mentally ill. It's very likely (but no, not for a 100% sure) that animal rights will evolve in the same way. Cheers !🍻

" If at that moment someone would have predicted a black president in 2008, he would have been considered as mentally ill" NOT if he lived in Africa African nations have had so-called "black" rulers for quite literally THOUSANDS of years.

Don't know if you talking about South-Africa, but however I was talking about the US, so please answer to that.

Dark-skinned rulers are NOT an aberation of any kind in American history They are ONLY a rarity in very, Very, VERY recent American history. And even then, only in NORTH America Central and South American nations have had very nearly nothing BUT rulers "of color" for their ENTIRE histories

Nations in The Americas had dark-skinned rulers for more than TEN THOUSAND years after the lend of the last Ice Age.

Your responses are pathetic, laughable and unpersuasive. Even though you're a meat-&-dairy industry indoctrinated ignoramus, you should know better by now. You put your selfish taste buds above your ability to empathize.

" you're a indoctrinated ignoramus" FALLACY: Psychological Projection The person out of the two of us here proven to completely, totally and utterly lack even the most basic, elementary-level and rudimentary comprehension, knowledge or understanding of what they're talking about is YOU

"Your responses are unpersuasive" FALLACY: Generalizing from Self [The "I am the world" fallacy] Just because YOUR closed, narrow and small mind is unwilling and/or unable to ever diverge from your quasi-religious dogmatic zealotry DOES NOT make everyone else as intellectually dishonest as you

:"you are in the most northern point of Africa, and you shake hand to a chimpansee." ONE SMALL PROBLEM There are no chimpanzees in Northern Africa

I wanted to make a point against your 'it has always been like this'. If we accept al we (and other animals) did in (pre)history... , then we should cancel all are laws and values.

"If we accept al we (and other animals) did in (pre)history... , then we should cancel all are laws and values." FALSE That is a blatant, bald-faced and flagrant LIE Humans are by no means the only species with values: www.wellbeingintlstudiesrepository.org/cgi/viewcont...

"Cannibalism is widespread across the animal kingdom, seen in over 1,300 species, from insects and spiders to fish, sharks, and even some mammals." www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/arti....

This doesn't make any sense as a statement.

Here it is broken down:

This is nonsense, for obvious reasons. Apart from that, do you automatically assume that people who make different choices from you are mentally ill? Doesn't seem like a great way to be.

Establishing the fact that the dogmatically anti-science quasi-religious cult of veganism's inherent pathological self-hatred indicates a lack of mental wellness has absolutely positively NOTHING at all whatsoever to do in any way, shape or form with ME Unlike vegans, I am not narcissistic.

"do you automatically assume that people who make different choices from you are mentally ill?" NO Of course not I have established that self-loathing is a symptom of mental illness and vegans are, by definition, self-loathing mammals This has nothing to do with "thinking differently than me"

"This is nonsense" CITATION NEEDED Please cite which of the remises you believe to be factually inaccurate or incorrect and present your evidence to the contrary.

You can't be serious. Mammals do not drink the milk of other animals, as adults. Vegans are not opposed to breast feeding.

" Mammals do not drink the milk of other animals... as adults" Except humans. This is what's called a "special pleading" fallacy Like when creationists say everything that exists must have a cause... except god. By saying "all mammals EXCEPT humans", you're conceding that humans are mammals

"You can't be serious. " FALLACY: Psychological Projection You were requested to please provide evidence disproving any of the logical Premises that have been presented to you. Thusfar, you have childishly refused to do so. The only "unserious" person out of the two of us here is YOU

OK mate.

"Vegans are not opposed to breast feeding." That is only because veganism is internally inconsistent and self-contradictory If vegans were in any way, shape or form even remotely intellectually honest, they WOULD be ideologically opposed to breastfeeding.

Yeah, but they're not, so..... your logical 'win' is...imaginary. Maybe just accept that vegans are people have made a moral choice in their life, like many other moral choices we live our lives by and don't get so worked up about it. Enjoy your evening.

"don't get so worked up about it" Perhaps i wouldn't, if i din't have quite so many people calling me evil just for being a human... while bald-faced lying to both themselves and everyone else about who [and what] they are and what they do [and don't] believe

"vegans are people have made a moral choice in their life" FALSE You yourself have already admitted that this claim is nothing more than LIE, with reference to the fact that Vegans--by your own admission--have absolutely positively NO internally cogent, coherent consistent belief system

"Mammals do not drink the milk of other animals" REALITY BEGS TO DIFFER: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1183...

Yeah, no shit, I have a cat. The point is it's not a defining characteristic of a mammal that your argument needs it to be to make sense.

"All mammals possess mammary glands, which are specialized to produce milk to feed their young. " dnr.illinois.gov/content/dam/...

"it's not a defining characteristic of a mammal " SCIENCE BEGS TO DIFFER "Mammals are defined by a combination of characteristics, including the presence of mammary glands to produce milk for their young" www.britannica.com/animal/mamma....

Empathy? Clearly a mental illness. Only a sick mind could feel compassion for what sentient creatures suffer during industrial processing. Maybe some kind of conversion therapy could be tried?

Nothing about veganism has anything to do with "industrial processing" Try again