Jeez, can we not do this? I have plenty of issues with Newsom, but he's fighting the fight that needs to be fought *right now* and I'm glad he's doing it. You don't have to vote for him or even like him. But none of what's happening now in this country gets turned around unless... /1
Are you worried that he’s going to stop fighting fascism if people aren’t nice to him about the harm he‘s done? Doesn’t seem like a very reliable fighter against fascism if that’s such a concern. He’s also not a good fighter bc he doesn’t fight for all marginalized people. He’s sacrificing us.
Don’t trans people and homeless people ALSO need people fighting for us? That’s how you really fight fascism! Why aren’t you elevating the politicians, candidates, and local leaders who are doing that? You could be putting this effort into getting progressive candidates through primaries!!!
Fucking tell him to not do this! No one is fucking making him do this!! Why the fuck do you assholes keep giving him permission to spew this fucking hate at us??
It's the bigotry. Like the Republicans, as long as he's harming the right people, it's all good for these assholes.
the fight that needs to be fought right now INCLUDES fighting for trans rights. these are not separate fights. if newsom is anti-trans, then he is pro-fascism. his fight against trump is merely a disagreement over who should be the fascist in charge, it is not a disagreement about fascism
Quiz: How long as Newsom had a veto-proof majority in all three houses in California?
"Can we not acknowledge this shithead who I've decided is Che Guevara because he makes mean tweets about Trump is a raging transphobic fuckhead? It makes me have a sad!" Go fuck yourself, it shouldn't be hard given your lack of spine
Shut the fuck up with your country club ass name and ideology
Me: To protect the rights of marginalized communities we must get the GOP out of office, so I'm glad Newsom is helping to do that. The Performative Left: ShUt ThE fUcK uP yOu CoUnTrY cLuB nAzI sCuM!!!!
how in the fuck does supporting newsom help trans people and homeless people, just to begin with? two marginalized groups he vehemently, personally opposes?
I didn't say you have to support Newsom. I said you should support what he's doing to get rid of 5 GOP House members and help deprive the GOP of power because the GOP is committed *at an institutional level* to harming the communities you claim to care about, and removing the GOP from power... /1
How do you define "support" here?
For starters, if you live in California, then you should volunteer, knock doors, phone bank, do whatever you can to build support for the redistricting proposition that will be on the ballot in November. Promote and support it on social media. Do it loudly, proudly, and often. /1
When it passes, then you can go back to hating Newsom. Until then, all hands on deck. /end
Do you find ordering people around usually works for you? I think, on the contrary, there's a lot to be said for speaking to fellow voters as equals. I have faith in your ability to be civil and respectful to your fellow Americans. :)
Who's ordering anyone to do anything? Someone asked how I define "support" and I gave my honest answer. Sheesh.
“all hands on deck” insisting that people must fall in line with newsom, that support must be unequivocal until you personally decide it is ok
"When it passes, then you can go back to hating Newsom. Until then, all hands on deck." What does the phrase 'all hands on deck' mean to you?
Nah. Appeasement never works, and I do not back people ACTIVELY TRYING TO REMOVE MY CIVIL RIGHTS. I will not vote for anyone who has vetoed expanding my healthcare. I will not vote for anyone who vetoes my civil rights. Bullshit.
yeah it is plainly straightforwardly true that newsom intends to continue to target trans people, that he is fully aligned with trump and the gop on this. how does increasing the power he wields help anyone like me
when someone tries to convince you that first you have to lose in order to win, they just want you to lose
Literally all I'm asking you to do is support something that will help deprive the GOP of power. It does not bind you to support any person or any of that person's other policies in the future. But hey, if you'd rather live under the tender mercies of continued GOP rule, well....OK. Good luck.
I'm not asking you to vote for *Newsom*. I'm asking you to support the proposition that will get rid of 5 GOP House members and help deprive the GOP of power. Something that should be a no-brainer for anyone who cares about the issues you claim to care about. /1
This is what happens when you burn bridges with a community. They don't give you what you want. Now you have to build those bridges, you can't just demand it from them.,
How do I know he's not just going to put up five more transphobes who will veto my rights?
Then when it's done, you still get to hate Newsom and campaign against him with all your might. Win-win. /end
And I'm telling you to lick my asshole
Exactly. Liberals don’t want it to wat. They never do. They just demand we all die quietly to preserve their dying privilege. They’ll obviously lose again this way, but don’t care so long as they can blame their victims.
All hands on deck started decades ago and you're late and supporting the fascists. Get on the right side now motherfucker because I'll attack that dumb shithead and trump and maybe you shouldn't get in the fucking way
Otherwise I'll treat you like any other garden variety bigot shit stain and you'll deserve it like newsome and trump deserves it. Better find another team to play for.
The redistricting scheme is a scam. Leave my state alone, asshole
...is a necessary and critical element to helping those communities. /end
Lawyers will be lead to the countryside
The redistricting scheme is about Newsom winning the primary. That's the only purpose the stunt is meant for.
Performatively demanding that we not support a guy willing to personally slit the vote of any person they meet if it nets him another vote
Shit like this is why we never get nice things
Shit like you are why we never get nice things.
You're not a nazi (per se), just an incurious bootlicker.
Apparently you need to learn what "performative" means
HEY REAL QUICK CHAMP, WHAT TRANS RIGHTS IS GAVIN NEWSOM INTERESTED I PROTECTING? AND WHICH ONES DOES HE WANT TO TAKE AWAY?
JUST LIKE A QUICK ENUMERATION IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND I'M JUST HAVING TROUBLE SQUARING THE STUPID FUCKING THING YOU SAID WITH ACTUAL REALITY
And which has he vetoed? Because he's certainly done THAT!
Explain to me how agreeing with and platforming transphobes protects the rights of marginalized communities. Let's hear it, genius.
"Performative left" yes of course anyone with actual principles is "performative" to unprincipled slime like you. God forbid we ever actually stand for anything, that might actually win some elections unlike the appeasement you're in favor of, you fucking worm.
Throwing trans people under the bus doesn't get the GOP out of office you fucking imbecile
He isn’t fighting. Paying your staff to post AI slop dunking on the easiest target in the world isn’t fighting. We have been used to the Democrats doing as little as possible to fight fascism without openly campaigning for it that you’ll settle for scraps. Demand better. They work for us.
He's taking 5 House seats away from the GOP. Which could well be crucial to flip control of the House. Which is essential to deprive the GOP of power. Which is a necessary step to protect the things you claim to care about. As I said, you don't have to vote for him or even like him. /1
But the notion that he isn't fighting is ludicrous. /end
Paying an intern to post AI memes is not "fighting."
Taking five House seats from the GOP *is* fighting. And nobody else is doing that.
Isn’t this also on the table in Illinois and New York?
Yeah but Pritzker cares about trans people and isn’t sending out homophobic memes about Trump and Putin so they don’t like him.
Did he do that, though, or talk about doing that? Yes, that definitely counts as action, but last I heard it was a proposal, not an accomplishment.
California legislature is voting on it (and will pass it) this week. Then it goes to a public vote in November. If it passes, it will happen.
So it hasn’t happened, and as a result, is not a thing he has done. So, our assertion that he has done nothing to fight is factually true. Stories about what might happen are not facts, they are stories. Your belief that he is going to do things is not evidence.
And if it does happen it will be the LEGISLATURE and the CITIZENRY that made it happen, not fucking Gavin Newsom.
Also Gavin has had unassailable supermajorities across California for YEARS. He's spent most of it vetoing bills on trans rights and universal healthcare. Weird he's doing something NOW.
Yes, because California is this thing called a "democracy" that limits the power of its chief executive to do certain things (like redraw congressional districts) by fiat, therefore Newsom can't just wave a magic wand and make it happen. What he has done is throw the full weight... /1
Sorry, California being a democracy does not make things in the future be in the past. You claimed he had done it. That was a lie. We deal in facts, not hopes. Join us. It’s a better way.
...of his office behind it, which has resulted in this thing that wasn't even a concept three weeks ago now having a very real chance to become reality. That, in the business, is what is known as "fighting." So yes, it remains ludicrous to say he's not fighting. /end
Is it Ludacris, or do you not agree with it? Those are different things.
...Republicans are kicked out of office everywhere possible, and he's actually doing something concrete and significant to help make that happen. Fight about 2028 later. /end
Capitulating to conservative conspiracy theories and bigotry isn't a solution to conservative. It's capitulation. Appeasement does not work.
Can dems stop throwing trans people to the wolves? I agree, they shouldn't do this, and those that do ought be written off wholesale. Thank you for meeting us on this trying issue.
If we do not address the things that caused Trump, we are doomed to repeat him.
Thanks for being okay with throwing all of us trans people into the meat grinder it's really appreciated