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maija @maijanbsky.bsky.social

Not sure if this is meant to be a joke, but i think this IS in the heart of very important complex topic. Yes, what is dancing/(etc. action)? Like actually? And what is the ontological difference dancing vs. exhibiting behavior entirely consistent with motions used when dancing? Like ACTUALLY what?

aug 30, 2025, 7:40 am • 2 0

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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

Did you see this one bsky.app/profile/timb...

aug 30, 2025, 7:50 am • 1 0 • view
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Jonatan Hildén @jhilden.bsky.social

Feels like a pretty significant problem with comparing biological systems to say LLMs is that we don’t have any good and firm conceptions of how any of these work! Also that someone claiming that this or that example Obviously isn’t real intelligence or whatnot probably is over their head.

aug 30, 2025, 7:58 am • 1 0 • view
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maija @maijanbsky.bsky.social

An interesting one! I hadn't heard this kind of "marker" approach before. And yes indeed it's hard to make exclusive claims when we really don't know even enough about ourselves

aug 30, 2025, 6:48 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dan Davis @bindlestiff.bsky.social

My point, distilled to a sentence, is this: when AI techbros (and LLM “enthusiasts”) assign intelligence / consciousness to LLMs, they are practicing an especially virulent and self-deceptive form of reductionism.

aug 30, 2025, 12:35 pm • 1 0 • view
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maija @maijanbsky.bsky.social

I get the point! Of course, it is itself a question, that how is e.g. intelligence reductible, if it is at all. Nevertheless, actual complex philosophical questions are rarely compatible with shallow internet techbro hype

aug 30, 2025, 6:51 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dan Davis @bindlestiff.bsky.social

Fair point

aug 30, 2025, 6:57 pm • 1 0 • view
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jarimarkus.bsky.social @jarimarkus.bsky.social

One might suggest that dancing requires an intention to dance.

aug 30, 2025, 8:48 am • 2 0 • view
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maija @maijanbsky.bsky.social

not a bad answer at all!

aug 30, 2025, 6:46 pm • 0 0 • view