This is what happens when accountability fails. As sad as it is, this was inevitable and will only increase until our other branches take up their duties and protect the people.

Im not violent and am not promoting it. I don't think us round earthers will be able to convince/cajole the violent MAGA citizens and newly massively funded gestapo to just let go of their power and masochism. Germany had to go thru some things. I don't see our country surviving intact.

No authoritarian regime or fascist dictatorship was ever removed from power peacefully. However we are not at that point YET. And acts like this give the administration fodder. From local reports the ICE agents were not shot but an Alvarado police officer was. This is only 30 minutes from me.

It isn’t, but it was inevitable, and it won’t be the last incident. Fear and desperation drive people to act. I feel like that’s exactly what Trump wants. He wants martial law.

Put me on their jury…

If this becomes "the way", we will be falling right into their trap and giving them what they want... a reason to militarize any city, certainly all major cities, against us. There will be no turning back at that point. Don't do it. Please.

Correct. They will always have more and bigger guns. Plus the full force of the state, courts, etc. Some people figured this out a while ago and made effective change as a result.

NO. This is not the way, not acceptable, and not in keeping with how we solve our differences.

Then get ready to sing "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" when they come to take you away.

No it really is NOT the way. Sigh.

Said from your perch of privilege.

Violence against these vile pieces of shit will just give them more of an excuse to keep doubling down. Protest them peacefully and through every legal means we have.

No to violence, friends. The police should arrest any #ICE agent who assaults any person.

But they *arent* arresting ICE agents for assaulting people - I think the high road for any of us is gone.

And so it starts.

Well Jon, what is the way? Neither Congress nor SCOTUS are doing anything to stop this. The Judicial is being hog tied. The people of America are only going to put up with this violent corrupt offensive against our defense of democracy and Constitutional rights. Maybe it’s time to fight.

People are angry, and all the options have been removed, so you had to see this coming.

You're right. But people are getting desperate. It's sad but it will happen because it's only going to get worse under Trump 😞

Not even going to contemplate that this incident is a false flag??

Oh, I definitely smell a rat...the fact that they had an anti-oligarchy flag in their vehicle?🙄...come on...it's a set-up to have an excuse to be even more aggressive. We've seen the carefully orchestrated "assassination" attempts by this administration before.

Exactly. More rightwing posers. Probably another version of Boogaloo Boys or whatever. Erick Prince has these guys on speed dial.

We were very vocal criticizing the administration for spending so much on "border security" and ICE, when $50K worth of early warning sirens could have saved over a hundred innocent lives. The Showman always deflects with drama. And it's just their word this was an "ambush".

Exactly. This is a convenient way to escalate. ICE is readying itself for martial law. If the public perceives violent resistance they won’t fight it.

And have you heard any more? Seems like it evaporated just like that "ass*ssin" at The Dumps rally that time. If it was real, why isn't it headlining for days? I'm throwing my own flag...a Bullshit Flag! If they wanted to ambush ICE, why at a guarded facility, and not the roaming cosplay herds?

They stole power. They will never give that up again unless forced to do so.

We have lost all civil means of stopping this regime. None of this is going to end without a hot war, and I hope there are enough ex and current military on our side for us to win. Small-scale attacks, though, don't help. Which is why this is likely a false flag to justify martial law.

To be clear: I don't *want* a hot war, but that is where it's going to end up. The only civil option left is a mass, extended general strike, and I can't see enough of us doing that to make a difference. People with combat experience should be formally organizing now to prepare for the inevitable.

What I'm afraid is going to happen is that half the country will keep being in denial, thinking court cases and the mid terms are going to save us, and won't see the reality until it's too late. Then we're stuck trying to survive under the Empire for years until we get a formal rebellion force.

False flag for sure 🤔

They shouldn't have missed

Big fan Jon. Unfortunately, there is a point in time when this might have to be the way. What happens when ice starts shooting people for fun? Would it be the way then? At what point is the red line crossed?

100%, it is not the way to go. Peaceful resistance. But, will they claim entrapment like in the Whitmer kidnapping attempt? Will the AP run stories about how it could be entrapment?

Its the opposite of the way... good freaking grief.

I just hope we don't reach the point at which it IS the way - but I fear we might.

Seriously, once violence like this is unleashed then it's unleashed on everyone, and no one gets out unscathed But I'm not seeing anything else work right now, so what's the alternative? I have to believe that sometime better is possible

Protest signs don’t seem very effective

Hmmm…

People can only take so much. Government funding kidnapping and you’re told to call 911. By then they’re already gone.

Of course it is. The republican just passed major gun promoting legislation. The leopard likes republican Maga faces also.

False flag operation.

It is not. I am quite surprised it took this long, however.

We have to follow the path of Gandhi and King if really want to save this nation!

Gandhi's nonviolence relied on the existence of a moral public who refused to allow horrific violence. That's why that won't work here.

I would bet the farm that 60% of Americans are totally appalled by what is happening here in America right now! Nonviolent, civil unrest is the only solution I agree with everyone on here about this Nazi regime! But advocating any type of violence is foolish and it will not work!

Sweet summer child.

King wasn’t as anti-violence as you might think. It wasn’t his preferred strategy but he knew it had its place.

It might make u feel good at the moment but it ALWAYS sets back the cause, ALWAYS! Don’t get me wrong democrats are as weak as they come. You can see that by their total screw up at the justice department with garland! King didn’t appreciate the panthers

Fuck off with that Dem-Bashing bullshit .!!!

Dude I like the Dems they just ain’t no good at this politics thing😉 Also trojan73 believe it or not I am 100% on your side. Together we will beat these nazi’s

Ah, you might want to go back. Why did it work in the 1960s? Then: administration that was pushing for more civil rights and open. Judges ruling in favor of civil rights. Media being favorable to civil rights and protesters. None of that is true today. It's not the same. We are regressing.

Republicans started the southern strategy in the mid to late 60’s tRump help finalize the deal in his first term with his Supreme Court picks.

It's laughable people keep drawing this argument up over and over again. There is no Dr King, JFK, or LBJ today. This administration has asserted its power over the other 2 branches. This is not comparable. No one in power is giving rights. They are removing them. Find a new way forward.

Being a navy vet you must know the power of the US military Your new way forward if it involves violence will last at best a week.

Really want a full dox on each of these accused. Seems a little too on the nose.

Yet. Not the way, yet.

No it is the way - it's how it starts. They push this hard so this happens so they can do even more shit.

It's the only language Fascists speak and it was inevitable.

I'm tired of pretending it's not.

I mean, that certainly was true at some point in time

Yeah, let’s wait on a list of names because 🤔

Ok but can you tell us what IS the way? Because I don't condone violence, but nothing else is working!

Agreed. This will be ammunition that they will use to justify themselves for years.

This is not the way until week two of November 2026.

So then what *is?* Because the last time a Gestapo was throwing people in concentration camps, this is exactly how we put a stop to it.

Yeah. 10 people clearly wasn't enough. Fighting violence with violence will justify the inevitable martial law declaration. We should be protesting these #AmericanAuschwitz locations 24/7. Block the roads. Cut the power. Expose the builders. Their fear campaign is working. For now.

I agree it’s not the way BUT it sure feels good for a second.✌️

In a way, it might deter ICE wannabes from being fascist kidnappers if they know there is a real chance of getting shot, hurt, or maimed. It's easy and fun to be a cosplayer when you think you are 100% safe.

Oh boy. Not good. DT wants any excuse to impose martial law.

He could impose that right now and no one would stop him.

Sure, and he will before the midterms. He doesn't need an excuse, and being docile won't change that

Jon, anonymous (zero accountability there 😜) people are snatching people from public, or private, areas, and throwing them into concentration camps (prisons require Due Process) with ZERO Due Process; the above-referenced result, was inevitable.

Thoughts and prayers.

Agreed. This will probably make agents more prone to be trigger happy.

Maybe the actual ICE officers but not the small-d*cked deputized Proud Boys.

Maybe we should ask a German if they wish their ancestors formed an armed resistance against the SS when they started kidnapping their neighbors.

Oh really? Then what is the fucking way? Ask nicely? Use our words? 😂😂😂 fuck ice. There’s more of us than there are of them. Let them be afraid. Let them be fucking afraid of the public they’re terrorizing and beating and kidnapping and running over. LET THEM BE FUCKING SCARED.

Is this the country with more arms per capital than any other? This is gonna get messy.

It needs to get messy.

Trump fans wanted the Wild West… they’re gonna get it.

Fight back, it’s only going to get worse from here.

Becoming them is not the solution.

but it is gonna happen....

It not not the way

Would you give the same response during the Warsaw ghetto uprising??

Unfortunately our courts, politicians and police have failed us and violence becomes the language of the oppressed. I’m not condoning it, but it’s the next logical step. ICE is violently stealing people, so the people start reacting with violence.

Opposition leaders, the legal system, the corporate media, the business community, establishment voices…they all failed to meet the moment time after time since Trump took office in 2017. Creating a vacuum where desperate measures now seem like the only possible remedy.

It was inevitable in Trump’s America. If we’re honest, we all knew this was coming. This is history in real time. Not condoning or promoting. Just saying.

I do not wish this kind of thing to happen. But at the same time, it’s what the second amendment is actually about. The tighter the squeeze the more there will be reactions like this.

Well it ain’t gonna be with a sternly worded fucking letter. That much I do know.

What about a John Lennon karaoke vid on YouTube?

With all respect, it is. They don't listen to our pleas, they don't care about our marches and protests, they ignore our votes or calls to our Congress - unless we physically fight back they won't stop

It should be. The TREASONOUS FASCIST SCUM want a war, let's give it to them. Let's see how tough they are when their targets shoot back.

Unfortunately this was a fake attack. This was done by Noem probably.

no, sensibly, you'd need a lot more people. This smells.

It’s going to happen. It’s going to get worse. Talking isn’t working. Thoughts and prayers aren’t working. Our Senators and Representatives aren’t working. I don’t condone killing. It happens in racist governments on both sides. Rather it not be the people, if you know what I mean.

I also feel like this isn't entirely what it seems to be. After all, actual home-grown terrorists tend to lean right more often than not.

It’s what Trump has been pushing for…if he can’t intimidate the populace into submission the next best thing is to provoke attacks like this as a stepping stone to martial law…

Sounds more like the Proud boys than anything else

Agreed, it's not the way. I'm definitely not in any of the kidnapped people's shoes, nor their families and friends. Therefore, I could NEVER feel their desperation...and that, is what must have led to this. Trump has blood in his hands. #TrumpDidThat

It's not.

I'm open to ideas, but what is the way? The street parties and pretty signs don't seem to be working.

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Wrong

If history has taught us anything, it's that the only way to get rid of fascists is with force. 🤷

I just don't know anymore. Is there another way?

No, there isn’t

Agreed, but this is exactly what they want Jon. If they didn't want this conflict they wouldn't dress like combat soldiers.

It always led to this. Sooner or later, this would be the response.

I'm not so sure. Unfortunately.

There's really no other solution in sight. If you or someone you know is about to be kidnapped and sent to some torture camp in who-knows-where, you've basically got nothing to lose. It would actually be preferable to take a bullet than go to CECOT, so why not take out some fascists on the way out?

I agree..the only thing about this story I don't like is that the folks didn't go far enough . As many Ice personel as possible need to be fired upon and eliminated .

But be SURE and bring your anti-fascist flag with you...you know, so they can tell which side you're on. I'm not buying this scenario.

Your suspicion is highly warranted.

This was so fake. It was a show for FOX so they can justify the concentration camps.

Yep!

OK

I'm surprised this didn't happen earlier with a country this divided and full of guns.

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These f***ing idiots are going to give this admin the excuse they need to enact Martial Law. Begs the question: who’s behind it.

tRump is bringing us ICE (martial) Law, whether people fight back, or not (did you not see the BILLIONS of 💲, for ICE, in the BBB?!?!?)

Having military presence on the streets may be inevitable, but helping them bring forward their plans isn’t strategic or helpful. And isn’t THIS ☝️ assassination? Is that fighting back? Or just plain murder? The difference between these two things is the literal difference between YOU and THEM.

“May be inevitable”?!? It. Is. Already. Happening. Wake up.

Fools rush in. Don’t be a fool. This is nothing compared to what they will do.

No fucking shit (um, they didn’t ask for 45 BILLION 💲, for ICE, for anything other than “Fascism: 24/7”) 🫣

Did they wear masks, body armor, and have no identification?

I disagree. If ICE will not require staff to follow US Law in identifying themselves and arresting people with SOP, then Americans should arm themselves with lethal weapons and stop them. The Gestapo is disappearing people, omcluding citizens.

I can’t say one way or the other, but history will. www.publishersweekly.com/9780802117663

Suspect. I’ll wait to find out who they are.

Absent any other considerations: the only reliable way to kill a dictatorship, without conquering it, is to shoot it in the head. Otherwise you just make it mad.

As much as most of us hate ICE, this is definitely not the way. I don’t say this because ICE doesn’t deserve this, but instead this will give the felon in charge more reasons to declare martial law or deploy the military against they’re supposed to protect

We knew it would happen