She doesn’t need a pardon.
She doesn’t need a pardon.
She doesn’t want a pardon.
Wow! Standing ovation!!
Pardoned for what? If one accepts a pardon they must confess/affirm their guilt. She is guilty of nothing
Don't give MAGA the false satisfaction that she needs a pardon. She has plenty of resources. If Trump wants to litigate (again) Jan. 6, I'm sure she is up for it.
Unfortunately, he will go after them, know he has no case, but his ultimate intent is to bankrupt them.
He won't bankrupt Cheney. He didn't bankrupt Jean Carroll. And he loses alot, alot. He has won only one case over defamation, and the ultimate disposition of that case is in dispute. You have to fight this sh*t. www.azcentral.com/pages/intera...
Yes, but Carroll was suing HIM, not trying to protect herself against a frivolous, potentially years long investigation of her by Trump's Injustice Dept.
Pardonne?
Was it just me or did she look like she was ready to take the prize and run? Good old Joe grabbed her hand and made her stand there and get all the pictures of them together. Good luck running as a Republican anywhere Liz with those pictures following you. 😂
I totally agree but I don’t think she needs to be pardoned because she did nothing wrong or illegal.
Pardons are for people who have committed crimes. Cheney has not.
I doubt she'd accept it. A pardon is an admission of guilt, and whatever her faults, she has a spine of steel.
It's a bonus that's it's going to really tick the BIG WHINY baby off too!😁Hope they hid the ketchup!
She definitely deserved the metal but I do not agree with issuing a preemptive pardon. The reason I don’t agree with it is because when someone accepts a pardon, it is essentially the same thing as admitting guilt to a crime and she has not done anything wrong.
*medal
Pardoned for what? She didn't do anything wrong whatsoever.
I don't know if doing your job when no one else will, should get you a medal but I do think she and Adam need a pardon only because Trump is a crazy manchild
1000%
Well she didn't do anything illegal,but who knows what Bat Shit Crazy Trump will try to do
It’s irrelevant that Liz did nothing wrong. Trump will prosecute to make an example out of her. She bravely put party over country. I may not agree with every position she holds, but I firmly believed she & the entire J6 investigating team, must be pardoned to prevent their false persecution.
A pardon is given to “forgive” a transgression, a crime. She committed no crime, so a pardon isn’t an option. She will face what legal attacks come her way with the truth. A pardon would only give TFG & MAGAts ammunition.
A Preemptive Pardon is best to help prevent a trump DOJ from prosecuting on lies. The truth coming out takes millions in lawyers fees, stress and years of a person’s life with no guarantees. She should not have to go through that. None of them should.
I agree she shouldn’t have to. But legally, accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt. Ask any lawyer. She wouldn’t accept one even if offered bc of that. She is not guilty of anything, and has no need of one. The fact that the Trump DOJ may try prosecuting based on his lies doesn’t change that.
As per META AI: 1. Accepting a pardon does not necessarily require an explicit admission of guilt. The individual may still maintain their innocence. 2. Accepting a pardon can be a pragmatic decision to avoid prosecution, fines, or other penalties, rather than an admission of guilt.
I will see you on the AI post and raise you a named legal precedent. 👀 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for looking into that. Doesn’t change my opinion that with the vindictive psycho threatening her and all of the J6 committee with prison plus demanding the death penalty be reinstated for “traitors”, she needs the pardon, regardless , as a shield.
Totally get those feels. It’s not gonna be fun for them for awhile. I’m still holding onto faith they have no evidence to convict anyone of farting upwind, let alone a crime. But I empathize with the emotion.
I’m worried they will fabricate evidence, but mostly, since the Supreme Court gave the President powers to basically shoot anyone by simply claiming it’s for the good of the country or falls under his presidential duties, he will jail or execute them without providing evidence.
Preemptive pardon is new to me.
If it goes to trial, ALL evidence will come to light. I don't think donny understands that.
The evidence already came to light. That’s what J6 committee worked so hard to obtain. Nothing mattered to his base.
All evidence would come out in their defense. There has to be more than what we were told. I think involvement of more members of Congress, SCOTUS, Ginny Thomas. Maybe don doesn't care but DoJ probably doesn't want it released. My opinion only.
Possibly. I don’t know how others feel, but I am exhausted just thinking about the fight we have ahead of us. I don’t want to look back. Regardless, it isn’t fair for one person to bare a huge financial & emotional burden from the DOJ threatening them with jail or death just for doing their job.
You're right. I feel the same way too.
Bluemaga calling her "liz" now 😂😂
We have limited characters to use. Shortening her full name to Liz may have no other meaning than 1. We are saving characters or 2. We are more interested in getting our point across than formality. But for me personally, I dislike her policies, but respect her as an intelligent, brave, woman.
Yeah. That’s not a thing.
Its not? It feels a little cultish to be fellating the man who betrayed our country and our democracy by not dropping out 20 months ago. The man that literally facilitated a trump takeover bc his 81 year old ego didnt want to retire YET to his oceanfront mansion. Thats cultish
Yeah, except it’s not.
I agree
yes!
She did nothing wrong.
Most definitely
id give a pardon to every democrat and republican who spoke the truth about the tangerine hemorrhoid(smells like 💩,is crooked and disfigured,and a pain in the ass)
She has honor unlike the party of MAGATS
In my mind they have been, and it's just a secret they can keep.
Wasn't she pardoned? I really don't know
She's done nothing illegal, at least nothing that the remains of her party can investigate or charge. She was operating within the rules of her job by investigating 1/6/21. No crime, no pardon.
Sorry can't do that. She's still a Cheney.
I don't forgive easily.
Cheney’s are corrupt, lying swindlers conning billions out of the Iraq war with glaring conflicts of interest. Blood-soaked cash from dead Americans & Dick’s torture campaigns. The sins of her father are not hers, but she has never spoken against it. She just doesn’t want to burn down the cash cow.
I’d be surprised if she wants a pardon. But she absolutely deserves this award.
Pardoned for what?
Absolutely deserved award and pardoned too. She did her job.
Torn. I see how it hamstrings 45, but accepting a pardon necessarily means one is admitting they committed a crime, and Liz has not committed any crimes.
That is a common misconception. www.justappeals.net/blog/2023/05...
Why? because of support for the Obama birther thing? Or tax cuts for the wealthy? Or opposition to Gay rights & distancing from her sister? or her anti-choice efforts? Denying blk & brn ppl a fair shake and workers the right to a union/a decent wage. Anti-Trump is necessary, but not sufficient.
Pardoned for what?!
It doesn’t seem to bother anyone that she still ran around using R talking points like Dems were killing babies at birth, so umm…. I don’t think she needs an award for doing her job and meeting her commitment to the constitution and her constituents. I guess that’s just me though.
Thank you! I'm with you!
Not reposting.
The old conservative man has got to go. He is not doing NEARLY enough to monkeywrench the incoming Trump regime! Most notably: Executive ordering an expansion of SCOTUS! Not good enough, Joe!!!
So should ANY of the members of the committee
She has refused to accept a pardon as she has not been charged with any crimes.
I agree with both statements. Hopefully the DOJ will refuse to cooperate if the orange terror tries to go after her. Liz Cheney committed no crimes, so she needs no pardon.
Yes I heard the same. She does not want one. Sickening that one had to be even considered.
Strange times but she is one of the good ones. Still disagree with her on most things though. She stood up to trump and that makes her a badass.
While I agree she deserves an award, I don't think she should get pardoned. I firmly that, courts willing, a lot will come out pertaining to the criminality she uncovered, and will be undisputed by facts. If she's pardoned and prevented from prosecution. too much will go unsaid, that needs to be.
Pardon implies guilt? She didn't do anything wrong.
Pardon, yes. Only because she did what few Republicans would do, and that was to condemn Trump. But she still voted with Trump 96% of the time and is a neocon warhawk. Medal? No.
But pardoning implies a crime
Standing up to stochastic terrorism is to be recognized & rewarded. We as voters have allowed our country to fall into fascism, myself included, not doing enough to oppose Citizens United, voter suppression, the Fairness Doctrine, etc.
one of us one of us
She’s done nothing to be pardoned for.
#LizCheney is a National Treasure who totally deserves this award 🇺🇸#PresidentBiden please protect Liz from any & all retribution from the felon Donald Trump!!!
💯, Respect 🫡 🇺🇸
PARDONED FOR WHAT? SHE DID NOTHING WRONG.
I really hope Biden pardons several people including Dr. Fauci
A pardon requires something illegal to be admitted to- why dies she need one?????
I'm still waiting on Joe for the pardons. My guess is if Donny and his maggots want to destroy someone they will regardless of the laws.
If she doesn't get that pardon , it's not going to go well for her.
Yes she should be pardoned it’s necessary.
I still can't figure out what Liz should be Pardoned for.
He needs to pardon Bennie Thompson and protect him. The republicans here in MS are trying to go after him at every turn.
No. She has committed no crime. The GOP know this. She will almost certainly not be charged, but in the bizarre event she were, she would not be convicted.
Hoping these pardons start coming soon. I’m worried about these people. We can’t take the high road. We need to get down in the mud with them.
Accepting a pardon means admitting guilt. I'd personally never take a pardon for crimes I never committed.
These are different times.
No. She's an opportunist who only drew her line at armed insurrection. She supported everything else Trump did
Agreed! Thank you for being a voice of reason.
Why pardon? She did nothing wrong.
Maybe she doesn't want a pardon.
She definitely deserved this award, and she did nothing wrong to have to be pardoned. (Yet, I want her to be safe from the orange monster and his cronies)
No. She propagated abortion lies. Stood up and voted for Trump across the board. She did ONE thing which is tell the truth about the insurrection. Period. That is just doing the right thing!
all true, but what a price she paid
Think of all those poor women who were demonized and traumatized by her words about after birth abortion.
She apparently changed her mind in terms of the severity of how to implement the restrictions after seeing the mess in TX. But, yeah.
I definitely agree that Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Bernie Sanders and all J6 committee should be pardoned. The Fascists will hunt them down just for the meanness of doing it.
Being targeted by fascists isn’t a crime (though being a fascist certainly should be). And to accept a pardon is an admission of guilt. None of them are guilty of anything. Will TFG try to spin it? Yes. But the law will protect them. If not, we have far worse problems than just TFG.
Doing so demeans them by suggesting they did something wrong. What distinguishes them is that what they did was, not only right, it was lawful. A pardon would diminish their righteousness.
Trump is the only president who believes in punishing people for doing their job. Yet he walks away from illegal acts without a scratch.
Hero!!
Pardoned for what?? All she did was the right thing. Didn’t break any laws by choosing country over party.
Pardoned for what? She did nothing wrong. Stop Obeying in advance
Cheney certainly deserves our gratitude for her courage to stand for the Constitution and justice in the face of personal threats. She does not need a pardon because she has the resources to defend and the spectacle of Trump's revenge may actually help.
He offered her a broad reaching Pardon. She refused it and in so many words stated she had not committed any crimes. Taking a pardon implies that you are accepting responsibility for some illegal action. I think she is hoping Trump does come after her.
Takes a lot of will and strength to stand up against your own party.
What crime did Liz commit that she needs a pardon?
Pardoned for what? She did nothing wrong
I never agreed with Liz, however she is a TRUE AMERICAN! Unlike those scared idiots who follow IOTUS!
Well deserved.
She did nothing wrong. Pardoning her and the others on Trump’s hit list will give credence to his false claims. Let him go full fascist.
You know she voted with the rapist 90% of the time. 👀 if he would had won re-election the first time she would still be by his side.
I wasn't a fan of hers by far, but she earned some respect from me for standing up for our Country when it mattered. She absolutely deserves this award, but she should not need a pardon for her work either.
Yes Yes Yes
I thought she was...
She didn't do anything wrong to need a pardon but I understand why you say that. I don't think she would accept one.
Pardoned for what? She did not commit any crimes. Trump perverted pardons and the process.
She hasn't done anything that requires pardoning. To give her one is to somehow admit that putting country over party needs to be pardoned. I also suspect, she wouldn't want one.
I hope she slaps the living shit out of tRUmp. 😡
Joe Biden’s kindness shows through in everything he does. This country has just done a 180 deg in this last election. I’m going to miss Joe 😢
Call on everyone to buy Liz Chaney’s book to make it number 1
A pardon would diminish her loyalty to the constitution and fulfilling her duty to it. Her father has plenty of Halliburton money for any lawyers in her future. She’ll be just fine.
I’m old enough to remember what Trump said about the Medal of Freedom when he gave it to that golem Miriam Adelson forever staining this award. His giving it to Rush Limbaugh, Devon Nunes and Jim Jordan took a shit on it. www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/tru...
Pardoned for WHAT? Being a patriotic American who tried to save our country from Putin’s puppet?
I know. I don't get at that either. Maybe protected?
Yeah, with this logic they should be calling for the pardon of everyone. Worldwide. 🤣
It's sad that in the almost 249 years the United States of America has existed that an outgoing President has to pardon Americans who told the truth about the incoming President. Washington would be rolling over in his grave.
Pardon the innocent in anticipation of the stinkn muskyrump pogram? For why? They will pack all branches with incompetent sukups bent on counterproductive measures. This incoming admin is working for Putin. Period. Not to break us bc we R broken already. This is pure joy at watching the suffering.
To pardon her would be to say she did something wrong
A preemptive pardon considering what TFG had said about putting her in front of a firing squad is how I see it. I don't agree with her politics, but I do agree with her about her statements and beliefs re J6.
Yeah... exactly...but the 💩🤡 is gunning for her and it won't matter. She needs a blanket pardon. I don't trust him not to have her charged with treason and then executed.
I think she is not pardoned because she's not a felon, of course I hope everyone who is dedicated to protecting democracy stays safe during the upcoming chaos.
The way that Trump & his GOP henchmen cheats with the rules of law & threatens to go after Jan. 6 committee members; Biden has no option but to pardon Cheney & January 6 members.
She voted for tRump the first time and ALL of us knew what he said to Billy...
Thank you President Biden! MAGAts must be losing their he also gave a medal to George Soros! 🤣😂🤣😂
Liz Cheney did nothing that needs a pardon
Braindead liberals are applauding Biden giving a medal to Cheney who hates immigrants, gays and wants to bomb Iran. You don't need to defend Biden anymore. He's finished. He gave you Trump.
She’s freaking trash I’ll never get people praising her.
Thank you I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Is this why liberals silo-ed themselves on this site? So they can help praise on neocons with no push back 🤮
I’m starting to remember why I blocked so many of them on twitter, and the few days I’ve been on this app I’ve yet to see the appeal.
Same. We just have to find our people. X has become a hell site rife with racist Indian memes and racist misinformation. Liberals here will fall in line under a Leftist-led resistance. It will be the only game in town. Once Trump is sworn in I hope the hero worship of Biden & Harris will subside.
What about they give her the medal, but they jail her old man for crimes against humanity, sorted.
Yo. Just because she did the right thing once doesn’t make her a hero… she’s still against a woman’s right to choose, she voted against the equality act, and she is still as R as they get… yes she stood up to Trump… everybody should. my bar for heroes and role models is a lot f$&cking higher.
She doesn’t need pardoning.
Agreed 100%
She doesn't want a pardon because she didn't do anything wrong. I didn't like the way she couldn't wait to get away and didn't seem to want her picture taken with President Biden.
Hopefully she was just being humble and uncomfortable.
And he very deliberately & effectively kept in her there, close by him. I think he even got her to smile 😉 That guy's one smart cookie 🍪
Yes I was proud of him. They gave her a great standing ovation too. She should be proud.
Pardoning suggests an admission of guilt. She is guilty only of being a positive force for the preservation of our democracy.
In a perfect world of unicorns and rainbows, that would be true. But in the real world, where Trump sets the discord in America and on the international stage, he will strike against anyone who criticized him, including judges, prosecutors, the media, and political rivals. So she needs a pardon.
In this case, it's an acknowledgment that protection from a forthcoming corrupt attack is necessary.
That's true but disinformation doesn't care, they will only use it as proof that the dems were doing crimes and a lot of his supporters are craving evidence of that, since they don't actually have any at the moment despite claiming it often.
Damn right, she deserves it.
She does not need a pardon. Any trial against her would bring up the J6 insurrection attempt, not something tfg wants photo see again.
She doesn’t need a pardon, she just needs to take them bird hunting
She didn't do anything wrong to need a pardon for; u have to admit to wrongdoing to get one I'm pretty sure
That is not true. It is a common misconception you have to admit wrongdoing for a pardon. www.justappeals.net/blog/2023/05...
Ok thanks for the heads up..either way, tho..I'm of the opinion that the optics look bad bc of the misconception
Except she would be admitting guilt for crimes she didn’t commit.
She didn’t do anything wrong to be pardoned for!
She should be pardoned, but she's done nothing other than be a good American.
I don't recall where I heard it so don't quote me on this but I heard Liz Cheney said she would not accept a pardon even if offered. Wouldn't surprize me to find out it's true. Liz is a figther and I suspect she WANTS Trump to have to think about and DECIDE whether he wants to risk going after her.
Liz Cheney is one brave patriot that put truth before party I admire her courage.
Me too although I disagree with much of her views & she comes from bad stock. Her Dad’s a Dick.
Totally agree with you!
Her book, Oath and Honor is spectacular. He's paid a bigger price for her integrity than any D. Cassidy Hutchinson is another true hero. These women made huge sacrifices. www.amazon.com/Oath-Honor-W...
She broke no law
She has nothing to be pardoned for. She did nothing wrong and got to the bottom of the truth. But she and the entire J6 committee should be granted some kind of J6 investigation immunity.
Yes, she is a person of remarkable courage and integrity. It was a positive development that she was pushed out of the Republican party's circle. She may find a more fitting home among the Democratic party and realize that Reps wanna go back to ancient Rome.Neros 'wannabe' perverts!
No, that would be playing into the trumpster dumpster's hands. Let him make the first move...
Pardoned for what crime?
She didn’t do anything wrong
Literally, she has actual full immunity since she was part of an official congressional committee.
Another one who thinks laws, Congress, and the Constitution will stop Trump from doing whatever he wants. Did you already forget that the SCOTUS last year handed Presidents King like powers? Trump is above the law, as most of us know. Democracy will not survive a 2nd Trump presidency.
By the way? Thank you for obeying in advance through despondency and maximalist thinking.
It's called preparing for reality. Like how one would prepare for a climate change disaster such as a hurricane of which you were warned in advance was coming. Not being prepared for the worst like yourself is not only dangerous but gives fascism fuel to succeed. Naivety is not a strong point.
Still obeying in advance. You believe trump is all powerful, all loved and EVERYONE will bend and scrape to please him. Even though he’s not, he’s not and Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Denmark, Scotland, the UK and Panama are all telling him to stuff it.
WTF up.. Demagogues have existed throughout history. Warnings of fascism under Mussolini in Italy, Hitler in Germany were ignored. Now there's people like you refusing to see all the warning signs Trump is a fascist. Total control over all three branches of government. King like powers as well.
I understand you feel trump is all powerful and you want to cower and obey in advance. The rest of us will not.
You probably believe that the SCOTUS, the Constitution, will protect America from the rise of fascism too. Maybe you think Democrats will grow a spine for once and not back down from a fight against Republicans? Who on the political stage is going to stand up to Trump? 80 year olds in Congress?
Continue to mentally surrender and happily obey in advance. They already are not backing down. They aren’t behaving stupidly and fighting unwinnable battles, that does not mean they are “backing down.”
No, he was not handed king powers. If the SCOTUS wants to prosecute Cheney for being on an official committee, doing official committee business, they can’t hide it as anything besides corruption.
That ruling last year by the six Republican Justices was widely condemned by legal experts, constitutional scholars, and Democrat Justices. Unprecedented power of absolute immunity would allow Presidents to exert pressure on a A.G. to pursue charges. That's where Liz Cheney is f*cked.
Cheney also has actual absolute immunity.
Trump has absolute immunity thanks to that Republican Justices SCOTUS ruling last year. How naive are you to believe Trump an actual convicted felon will abide by decorum, play by the rules and obey laws.. Who will stop him from jailing Liz Cheney if she has no pardon? Nobody.
So she has no right to appeal? And what do you think will stick? You are already obeying in advance.
Pursue charges, getting them to stick without obvious displays of corruption are another matter.
absolutely well deserved and a pardon before idiots in office
She doesn't "need" a pardon as she hasn't broken any laws, but she does need protection from the mob boss who will undoubtedly pursue her relentlessly for daring to investigate and expose HIM and HIS crimes.
…along with Cassidy Hutchinson
A pardon for what crime?
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she seems almost embarrassed when she is acknowledged for what she did~she's very humble because IMO she really believes as an American there was absolutely no other choice;
If I were Liz Cheney I wouldn't take a pardon. I would say, "Bring it on." The Felon doesn't want a public trial because all of the J6 evidence will be aired again in public.
She did. So did many of the others.
Bingo!
YAS. he's too stupid to see that far in advance. he's a toddler with a poopy diaper and sitting in his own filth.
Yes, to see in advance would mean you would have to THINK about an issue. That leaves Trump out. Another example, he keeps talking about Canada. If by some bizarre fate they became part of US, they would NOT vote for Trump and his MAGAS lickspittles.
Hell will freeze over before Canada becomes part of the US. The vast majority of Canadians value our sovereignty and the values we hold - you know, like universal health, gun laws, etc. too much to relinquish them. Additionally, we are a member of NATO = defence support.
i agree with you wholeheartedly. HumptyTrumpty is a buffoon.
Absolutely! Just commenting on how he never thinks about the stuff that spews from his mouth. Am sure he never thought about any of the things you just stated. Probably, just thinks of how he could exploit Canada's natural resources.
agreed!!!!
Don’t hold your breath. Canada will never become part of the USA. We don’t have the same values. It would never work out.
Agreed. However, it seems Canada does share some U.S. values. kpmg.com/ca/en/home/i...
Well, sure racism does exist everywhere in the world, but we never had it as an institution. We don’t believe in the death penalty. Women have more rights in Canada. We have gun control and universal healthcare. Shall I go on?
Can you explain what you mean when you say "never had it as an institution"? Do you mean slavery? Though I could point put many negatives about Canada, I won't because that wasn't my goal. I'm just saying it's one thing to rightfully reject 45's stupid suggestion. But Canada isn't perfect either.
Institution: Jim Crow, segregation, yes, slavery and today’s pipeline from school to prison for black youths. I never said Canada was perfect, just that its values are very VERY different than those of the USA. And not compatible on many fronts.
Yes, those are institutional. I was just curious how you were defining it. And yes, i realize Canada is very different. I have friends who live there. I agree that it has imperfections of its own, but is not necessarily compatible.
You forgot that in some Southern states, the prisons release inmates daily to work for local businesses, like McDonald's. They get paid minimum wage (pathetic as it is), but then the State takes most of their pay, & yet turns them down for parole as being 'too violent'. Modern day slavery.
Yes, true.
Yep, you got that right!!!
Right wing media will spin the truth & legacy media won't cover it correctly.
The AG needs to release it all, unredacted. Turn all the lights on and watch the roaches scurry.
This is the stance that the only other R on the Committee, Adam Kinzinger, has taken. He's a warrior -- a made member of the "bring it on" club.
I don't think she should be pardoned because I don't think she did anything to be pardoned for. That said, she's a grown up, has the president's ear, and should she request it, I'm willing to bet he'd grant it
She wouldn’t accept. She hasn’t committed a crime.
No.
I don’t understand a pardon, when she’s not done anything wrong. Isn’t that what pardons are for?
I’ve already reposted that several times today. And Fauci too. Otherwise it’s going to be a shit show worse than what we imagined 🤦🏻♀️
A pocket pardon from the time she started her initial campaign until the #3Muskrats are gone.
Absolutely! Everyone on the January 6th Committee, the people that voted to impeach and every member of Biden's admin, including a pocket pardon for him and Jill, should get one. That should include Jack Smith.
Not that she did anything wrong, but just to protect her from the promised retribution and vengeance from the felon-elect and all of his sycophants.
Agree
Every time Musk/Trump indicate that they are going to persecute any individual for doing their duty, Biden should immediately issue a pardon for that person.
I agree she deserves the award but she doesn’t need a pardon. We need to let the legal and legislative and constitutional safeguards against this sort of overreach play out.
Let's clarify: accepting a pardon is not an admission of guilt. The 10th Circuit Ct said that accepting a pardon does NOT meet legal definition of guilt. The Constitution says that, excluding impeachment, Presidential pardon power is UNLIMITED. SC put themselves in a box w/immunity ruling. Go Joe!
"The Supreme Court ruled in Burdick v. United States that a pardon carries "an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it" supreme.justia.com/cases/federa...
I know about Burdick. But Senior U.S. Circuit Judge David Ebel declined to adopt that "draconian" reading of Burdick, saying the statement was an aside, or dicta, in the court's overall holding on the legal effect of someone's unaccepted pardon. Google: 10th Circuit Ct re; Presidential pardons.
If the Court had meant to impute other, legal consequences to the acceptance of a presidential pardon, it surely would have said so explicitly," Ebel wrote.
Ah, I see the difference. SCOTUS said a pardon carries an "imputation" of guilt, where Burdick says that "does not constitute a legal confession of guilt." Makes sense.
Thanks, I will. 👍🗽
She doesn’t NEED a pardon bc she hasn’t done anything illegal & she doesn’t want one. & exposing unflattering facts abt DT’s conduct on J6 is NOT ILLEGAL!
Makes so called Republican men appear to be eunuchs.
Absolutely pardon her from trump’s revenge!!
Pardoned for what??
she looks so uncomfortable
She is deserving, but ballsy enough that she may not want a pardon. After all, Congresswoman Cheney did nothing wrong to need a pardon from anything; but, fucking Pride Boys boy, Enrique fuckin’ Tarrio DID, despite what his treasonous Pride Boys ass-lickin’ bros print on their T-shirts…..
you can't pardon people for fake crimes - accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt - why would she want that? she has the money to fight whatever drummed up bs they bring against her.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼GO LIZ!👏🏼👏🏼
At this point, I think if I was Liz Cheney, a pardon would be out of the question because government oppression never disappears. Pride for doing what's right has no dishonorPride for doing what's right has no dishonor
No law broken, no pardon needed. She should be exonerated.
She got a medal for doing her job. I mean, I'm glad she thought about democracy for once, but that's it.
How quick you are to forgive and forget the lies Liz Cheney told and emboldened MAGA and felon45. Do you not remember her video saying Democrats were kiIIing babies after birth. She can go to hell.
Sometimes the ends do justify the means
@President Biden, pardon ALL of the members of the J6 Committee. Do it now!
To receive a pardon she has to state she did something illegal, which i believe she did not
Pardoned for what???
She certainly did nothing wrong, but is likely to face a lot of frivolous, vindictive prosecution unless given a pardon.
Absolutely, she's really been mistreated, unfairly too.
Along with every single member of the January 6th Committee and every witness. Anyone that has been named by the incoming administration as an enemy of the country should get a pardon.
Pardoned for what? Seeking the truth?
Adam Kinzinger should have got one too!
She has never done anything criminal and I believe she has not sought a pardon. I do not think she would be denied if she thought it would protect her. Whether merited by our courts or Supreme Court or not, I believe she has confidence in our court system.
To the contrary, she was literally protecting the rule of law and our Constitution.
Pardoned for what? Doing her job? Sometimes I wonder about Call to Activism....😏
She is the definition of a Patriot, not a Trump supporter.
I am horrified by the prospect of Predator Elect Trump going after political foes, but I'm also horrified about the precedent this would set for the Predator Elect to abuse during the next four years.
Pardoned for what tho?
She doesn't want to be pardoned, does she?
I wish he had honored Adam Kinzinger
I agree
Pardoned for what exactly??
Whatever crazy charge they try to bring her up on.
That's probably why she said she didn't want one.
If they want to find a crime, they will.
She has the resources to prevail.
And? If she didn’t commit a crime then she’ll be fine
Certain Trump-targetted individuals are getting pardons for protection from Trump's harassment. Trump has repeatedly rattled off names on his Hit List. Thus, pardons for Hunter and Liz If someone with a lot of power hates you, 4 years is a long beating to endure, innocent or not.
I think the orange rapist WANTS them to get pardons That way he can say “SEE pardons were given because they committed crimes…” I say no pardons & if he does anything (which I still say bullshit) then let get to the discovery part of the trial. See all the evidence we probably haven’t ever seen
Trump announed he was going to pardon all the 1/6 rioters so that pot is hardly one to call the kettle black. His supporters used to fall for it. These days, they seem less convinced. They've certainly quited down. Guess we'll see. But I think Biden should preemptively pardon as many as he can.
Exactly! I hate to see the legal fees that she will have to incur, but she is only guilty of bringing to light the thug’s treasonous acts.
I still don't understand the preemptive pardon. One cannot be pardoned of a crime they have not been convicted of. That's just my logic, not twisted by politics.
She has not asked for a pardon.
Don’t see how you can pardon someone for upholding their oath of office and their oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States. 🤔
I don’t believe she wants a pardon. I believe she’s already been clear, Bring it on! (I paraphrase.)
Pardoned for what? Bring a wonderful American!
She definitely deserves the award. But a pardon would just be admitting that she did something wrong instead of trying to uphold our constitution.
Pardons are for criminals, she's no criminal, her crime in the magats mind was to impeached the Felon.
The pardon is up to her. She's a warrior, and I doubt she wants it. She did nothing wrong, and there will be attorneys lining up to defend her.
I hope Biden gives a lot of people a pocket pardon. Nobody needs to know about the pardon unless and until they foolishly charge them bogusly.
Liz Cheney sucks, she's corporate owned and voted with Trump even more than Elise Steffanik did. They also didn't do Jack shit with all the evidence
Some 👫 don't think she deserved the 🎖️ but should B Pardoned I say she Definately deserved it. She exhibited great Honor by standing up to the wanna B tyrant even though it cost her career. Outstanding Bravery Thank you Liz Cheney #UniteAmerica #Resist #BlueCrew
Pardoned for what?