As a creator I know people want me to just shut up and make art. But as the daughter of an immigrant seeing the honest evil that is being celebrated by MAGA I cannot begin to express how much I loath every piece of shit that voted for this vile man. If you didn’t vote your on the list too. Fuck you.
i don´t life in the USA so i don´t know everything ,whats going on... but it is kinda scary how blind and stupid people follow this man there is so much wrong with this world
I don't have an id at the moment so I was incapable of voting.
Preach! I am ashamed of this country!!! Deeply!!!! You keep doing great work and being awesome. The Hellaverse is my safe space these days. The recent Helluva Boss short had me cackling.
i believe that at this point, you are in very real danger
I flatly refuse to celebrate anything remotely patriotic this year. I’ve never been more ashamed to be an American. I voted for Harris, and I’d have voted for Biden, because anyone with eyes could see how horrific this administration was going to be and now we are trapped under a dictatorship.
Seeing what is going on right now makes me sick. There is no reason to celebrate. What America was supposed to be has long since died. It is comforting seeing the community of something I love speak up and be together in these hard times.
Keep speaking. There are people who know they're not alone in how they feel because of your voice. And that's needed.
I've hated myself ever since election day because I missed the opportunity.
As a hobby artist I have honestly found it hard to draw anything lately. Even with inspiration from your creations and others amazing fanart the depression of all that is going around lately makes it so difficult to work on anything while the world is burning down around me. Stay strong <3
☝️☝️☝️ keep talking viv
There needs to be someone who will come and end this mistake of creation known as mankind. FR, Hod should’ve killed ALL of us after Jesus died. We don’t deserve forgiveness. Never have, never will.
Right there with ya. I feel bad for all the immigrants and anyone else being kidnapped by ICE. I'd really like to know wtf my neighbors are celebrating, 'cause I don't see any reason to. I get to worry about my Medicaid being torn away from me now.
So valid. Only exception might be people who couldn't vote for a reasonable reason.
*hugs*
Never shut up! Speaking out is so important. I'm not American, so couldn't vote, but I absolutely detest everything that is going on from MAGA.
We are in the worst timeline unfortunately
I have a pretty scary stepdad who didn’t want me to vote that year, so I humbly apologize for not voting when I could’ve, I wish you the absolute best, and can’t wait for season 2 of Hazbin.
I can understand the fear of your family abusing you. I had the same circumstances except I rebelled and voted the way I wanted anyway. But I’m 31. It’s different for you, I really do understand. My intention isn’t to shame you; it’s to tell you I didn’t care about the consequences to me.
I’m an idiot, a jerk, and a bit of a reckless asshole. I’m not a good example of anything. You did what you had to do to survive, which is the smart thing to do. In my case voting for Diaper Dump was unconscionable even if it meant my death. I’d rather me go through that than you.
I wish you the absolute best, have a good night.
No need to celebrate if you don't want to, but this shouldn't be a celebration for that fucker ruining our lives. It should be a celebration that we're not gone, we're not alone, we can get rid of tyranny the way our founding father did. Never lose hope.
I wish I could move to Japan at this point, but the only problem is that I do not know how they feel about people with autism and ADHD, especially considering that they made at least some ADHD medications illegal in the country.
Virtually no country will allow you to immigrate unless you have some 8 year college degree in an extremely important field. Your only luck in immigrating to any country is having citizenship by descent
Welp, I guess I'm fucked then.
I agree with everything you stated except the part about those who didn't vote. People have personal reasons for not voting. Some have Reasonable reasons. Some just waive their right to vote. The rest don't think it'll matter.
Their lack of vote helped this evil man into office. I’m sorry but it’s really fucking hard to sympathize.
I understand that, maybe this is the wake up call they need to vote in November?. I really don't mean to upset you, I'm sorry if I have.
It’s fine, I get it! But I think it’s just one of those things where too much damage has been done for me to remotely want to hear it.
i didn’t vote bc i was in the middle of a health crisis, not because i didn’t care. i think it’s unfair to place the weight of the system onto the individual.
If you were physically unable too, fair enough, but a lot more people could have shown up and didn’t.
the people who dont care about politics are privileged, spoiled brats who have a blatant disregard for the well being of anyone else but themselves. they would see a stranger about to get hit by a car and keep walking. they will end up all alone due to their selfish behavior.
thanks for clarifying, i agree with you wholeheartedly. keep up the great work and never let others take away your right to speak up. 🖤
Wait am I dumb or are u talking about trump
Trump, that piece of shit
Poor Biden has cancer
You know man, you don't have to explain yourself/ suck up to a niche E-celeb if you don't want to. You hold your right of reason to vote or not. Don't let some "women" dictate and tell you to go to hell for waving that right. It's OK. Nothings wrong w/ that.
I'm used to having to explain myself (or try to at least) to my brother, who acts as if I don't have my own thoughts or reasons behind why I do things. It's become second nature at this point. Also I've been told by friends and family that I tend to come off as rude when I type certain things.
Yea. You have your own individuality. You make choices for yourself. Fuck ppl who say fuck you for making your own choices. You your own champion.
Unless you plan to leave the country, the option to just "shut up and make art" ended in January.
Wish I could hug you to help out , everything is so frustra5ing cause people so fucking selfish !
Never stop talking about it ! Art is always political anyways!
It pains me so much to see what MAGA has done to our country! I will resist them until every last drop of blood has left me!
Keep creating and don't shut up because art IS resistance and we need your art especially in times like this
I don't want you to shut up
Honestly Viv, don't ever stop speaking out. This community that has popped up around you and your art has been the only thing keeping me sane as of late. That you are willing to speak out makes it that much more special. Silence it the language of the oppressor.
For me the “I don’t vote” thing means, “I have the privilege of not having to worry my life depends on this thing”.
People who didn't vote in swing states are the worst offenders of this. At least California and New York were never going to go red whats Pennsylvanias excuse?
Most of the people who dont vote are marginalized. They dont vote because theres no one that cares about them in politics for them to vote for. Maybe check your own privilege first before you type
They are responsible for more death than has happened in Palestine since the creation of Israel 16 million dead from USAID removal probably tens upon tens of dead Americans when healthcare is gone Lack of any future tracking of natural disasters will kill even more. It's going to be WW2 numbers.
That hasn’t been my experience with people who don’t vote.
Is that because you dont talk to extremely poor ppl, or poc, or disable people who have been constantly fucked by a system they didnt ask for or trust? Why would people participate in a system that has only ever done them harm and actively blames them for being poor/disabled
There is no difference between this and voting against your interests.
No, that’s just been my own experience. 🤷♀️ I grew up poor. I’m queer. I’m a minority. I served 4 years in the military during “Don’t ask, don’t tell.” I can’t speak to other people’s experiences but the ones who don’t vote “because it doesn’t matter” were usually the well-off ones.
Ppl dont vote because they dont trust the system. They dont trust the system because it can use their vote against them. Your representative isnt even legally required to vote with the majority of their state (this happened in texas 2016).
Because objectively, their lives will be worse off under Republicans like Trump. No matter how bad things seem already, they can always get worse, as we have seen. People are losing their jobs, people are gonna start losing access to medical care, immigrants and even citizens are being deported.
Their refusal to vote is keeping the people that are fucking them over in office. I understand that there are circumstances in peoples' lives that can make it very difficult, if not impossible to vote, but I have no sympathy for anyone that could've voted but didn't.
We have a literal concentration camp in our country, evil people are celebrating about it, and we're heading straight for a dictatorship. So fuck everyone who chose not to vote. Fuck everyone who voted for Stein. Hope your self-righteous protest vote was worth it, assholes.
what a disgustingly self-centered outlook. being marginalized is not an excuse to say "i don't care what the material result of this outcome is"
The material outcome for those people is the same no matter which candidate wins. Why would they care
My life has not been better or worse with a dem or republican in office. My material conditions will not get better by putting more centrists in office. I will not vote for a centrist
And the only people who benefit from voting are the people trying to maintain status quo, so no i really dont care about their material conditions (because they have stated very clearly that they do not care about mine)
A "self centered" outlook is "you didnt vote for *insert centrist capitalist candidate*, this is all your fault!". No its the fault of the dem voters and republican voters who think socialism is some kind of slur and keep refusing to learn what it actually means and vote for it
Instead centrists will just keep voting for more centrists while blaming anyone who doesnt do what they want (kinda like republicans do). THAT is self centered. The people who dont vote told you why they dont vote and instead of addressing them they just get dismissed. Every time. We do not care
If your vote didn’t matter people wouldn’t try so hard to suppress it. Do what you think is best for your own situation. I just find it frustrating when people seem to be complicit in their own marginalization.
They dont need to suppress my vote, there are no viable candidates. Socialists get assassinated and centrists refuse to do better
i wouldn't be at risk of losing the only job that caters to my disability if the other person won you solipsistic asshole
literally just "i don't see or understand the difference so why should i care"
this is the DEFINITION of privilege. "fuck anybody who actually is affected by the laws passed by a given administration, because I'm not"
it is absolutely not, and it's a privileged take to say this. like pick your poison, EVERYTHING is worse for marginalized people under this administration
have you ever talked to an immigrant in your entire life
go talk to somebody worried about ICE now being secret police and the most highly-funded force in american history, paid for by taking away their medicare, and tell them "well ICE existed before so i don't see a difference"
I have had no reason to celebrate for the past few years. Things have been far too dire, and under this fucking Cheeto in Command, it only got worse. I'm not giving up, I'm here to fight.
Never understood the idea of “once you’re famous your opinions on shit don’t matter” like having a platform means you’re suddenly not American. Don’t let them get you down viv.
I think it’s important that as creatives, we do discuss these issues. I know folks just want to see art BUT, with everything going on it’s important that we don’t stay quiet. Especially considering we have the power to CREATE work that holds meaning. Even if it’s just through words.
On behalf of everyone, we need someone to send a Nifty
Just a Nifty won't be enough, we need a horde of armed cannibals. America is very likely going to get a second Civil War soon.
The MAGA movement will die with him. Never forget the British had more weapons and training in the Revolutionary War, the colonists had the numbers
I know. But there are still the million dollar questions: When will the Second Civil War be set into motion? Will Trump resort to nuking his own country? I ask the second one because M.A.D. is the one thing that stops people from using nukes. But can that work on a country that bombs itself?
Like can’t agree more what MAGA supports is completely wrong and evil they believe what they’re orange cult leader says FYI fuck trump
What about people who weren't able to vote? I had to work on voting day and so I wasn't able to go in and vote-
People can't go back in time, but for next cycle, check if your state allows early voting.
Aight
Personally I don't want my creators just to make art. If they don't have the gall to use their platforms to speak on what's right that's more disappointing to me than anything. Why become a celebrity/influencer/whatever you wanna call yourself if you aren't going to speak up when the time calls
As a trans person, I can agree with that statement I do like making art but the evil I see in MAGA, and that we let a convicted criminal into the white house and the only thing he's been doing is hurting other groups ever seen he's been in office, and I can't feel like celebrating a country that
Treat me like I don't exist It's just to care about a care that doesn't even give a shit about me, my friend, and other trans folks I'm sorry if I little bit venting here Just stay safe viv ❤️
Your art and the community it cultivates brings me a lot of comfort during these fuckass times. And honestly it brings great solace to know the creators and talent behind my favorite show use their platforms to speak out against the horrors wrought by those in power, affecting all of us
Agreed. The seeking of comfort, companionship and even the occasional modicum of decency in our fucked up world, Hazbin Hotel is almost how-to (or a how-not-to) guide for keeping your sense of self and vision for your life alive in the hellscape that is the real world.
Oh I agree this community has kept me afloat and I am thankful to @vivziepop.bsky.social and all her supporters. You guys are amazing
It's all bullshit. Republicans are actual monsters, Dems are entirely useless, and more and more invidious morons are being championed by people who go against their own interests. We're not in a democracy, we're in a three-ring circus.
I am also the son of a foreigner, who then became a citizen. I will never forgive MAGA for betraying our country and letting history repeat itself. Don't worry, I didn't vote for the evil man.
Being bombarded by so much is exhausting. But I’m fighting back by doing the things they hate; staying informed, voting, getting a higher education, and boycotting by shopping small business. I won’t let them take away what my parents worked so hard to give me.
I am sick of not calling to violence against the fascists that have invaded our congress.They have blocked every legal avenue to vote them out , and they are dismantling our Democracy . That said...try not to get violent . idk what to do. Helluvaboss somehow gives me hope.
I’m “American passing” so I don’t get affected as much as people Who “look Mexican” or other immigrants and it breaks my heart that more people don’t talk about how unfair it all is. Just because it doesn’t affect them.
Honestly, for the people who voted for that guy, fuck them
And he should be thrown in jail for all the vile shit he’s done
I’m so sorry Viv, unfortunately I couldn’t vote as apparently despite me putting in registration to vote while I was the age of 17 with a school teacher in class I unfortunately couldn’t vote as it never went actually through and by the time I realized it was already November. I’m deeply sorry.
Don’t even know what day it is. Nope… not at all.
It stuns me how people can even vote for him once twice or even three times even after the first 4 years of his craziness, I always vote and all times he ran I didn't vote for his dumbass. Keep your voice loud Viv! We are with you!
Agreed. As an American myself, I can't celebrate Independence Day when the constitution got murdered
Your art wouldn’t be what it is without you. I say never shut up, and when folks think creators should that’s when creators should be the loudest. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to be in a position like you, but I appreciate that you’re vocal and true and keep fighting. It’s fucking inspiring
Que se fodem os MAGA, tu tem liberdade pra falar tudo...
what about someone who wanted to vote but could not
Pretty sure y'all are safe. Voter suppression or age or whatever it's not on you.
Ask @stevehofstetter.bsky.social how he responds to "shut up and just do comedy!" Politics is all of us - not standing up for our values or even recognizing the humanity of people who are different from us passively compromises our moral compass in ways that cut deeply into the soul.
Thank you so much for speaking out about this important issue and raising awareness when others, including influencers, remain silent.🙏
He forgot the dinosaurs.
I'm Mexican and a citizen of the US and I'm still in danger of being incarcerated. This is far worse then what I thought was coming our way but shit's become a fucking nightmare. America isn't worth celebrating. Never was as far as I'm concerned.
I heard that, Viv. Monica Franco will be proud for this!
I feel ya Viv. I worry about my family too.
I literally couldn’t vote I turn 18 this month
I don't think it's aimed at people who couldn't vote, just people who could but chose not to
Artists, in my opinion, always had a voice. Especially through art as a medium (if they choose to do that). Look at caricatures and stories like Reynard the Fox. Even if they don't choose to criticise through their art, they should have a voice. I wish I knew more ways to help as a non-American.
(Jayden) Creators of art, literature, and everything should never be silent either in their art or in their lives. We know of too many good writers and artists who spoke out against injustice. If someone is telling you to shut up, they can just fuck off into a hole somewhere.
Yeah I’m over people trying to give the people who didn’t vote a pass… they shouldn’t get one
Right there with you in your disgust for the current regime. Just gotta keep up the good fight for as long as it takes to get em all out and start setting things right again. Starting with being there for one another and keeping eachother safe and sound!
Concentration Camp merch is next-level evil shit. Not even looking the other way, (im)plausible-deniability bad. Just inhumane evil.
Happy 4th of July my friend May you be blessed knowing the fact of their creativity is loved and respected to his question what's your favorite ship of your creation My old time favorite will always between Charlie and her lovely vaggie
I'm in a conflicted position myself, being just a resident. Meaning, on one hand - I want to get citizenship, so I can vote. On the other hand - the thought of 'dedicating' myself to actually being part of this country sickens me. I'm sorry if that's offensive to anyone, but that's how I feel.
I was squeezed out here and every day I go back to Vietnam mentally and pretend I still live there.
My sympathy goes out to the immigrants suffering who voted against Trump, I have zero for any immigrant who voted for him as well as my so called fellow Americans who voted for him too
I actually live in Britain but I believe that the Orange Skinned Hitler might threaten to ruin the whole world if somebody doesn't do something about him. A for #Anarchy I for #Insurrection
At this point, I'm still half ashamed to say it, but I'd rather see the country burn. To have something new and better be born from the ashes. This is a systemic problem, the gremlins are in the machine now.
I really do think the decent folks in your country are going to have to get over the "peaceful protest is the only way" mindset and FAST.
If we base this on Civil Rights history, then what we need is a Malcolm X or Blank Panther movement. The government, White House included, was so afraid of militarized Black people that they handed MLK Jr. exactly what he wanted.
Nah, you’re right. It’s disgusting what’s going on.
All art is political.
"Huh, I wonder what's in my other For You pages... what the hell happened???"
Right now, in particular, is a time everyone should be speaking out against the blatant authoritarianism and human rights abuses we're seeing in this country.
Art is political. Much strength and love for you and all the good US citizens who still exist.
Why is it so bad when people don't vote. I'm not really big into politics tbh, so personally I don't see a big problem with not voting. But could you explain your reasoning behind it so I could understand?
Assuming you're genuinely wanting to understand and somehow haven't thought this through, I'll take a second to explain... 10 people are deciding what to have for lunch. 3 want to eat a shit sandwich. 2 want to get ice cream. Tbc...
2 would say ice cream, but they're unwilling to agree to get ice cream that's not vegan. And 3 don't think lunch affects them. Maybe their parents packed them a baggie of Cheerios or something, so they figure they'll just eat that. TBC...
So what happens when 3 ppl vote shit sandwich and 2 vote ice cream and the other 5 don't vote at all? We all eat shit for lunch. If you don't vote, no matter what reason you have to not vote, the result is the same. TBC ...
If you personally have Cheerios, good for you! But everyone else is still eating shit and you contributed to that. If you weren't comfortable with anything less than a perfectly moral lunch, you still contributed to everyone eating shit. TBC ...
There are a lot of issues that come up as part of the democratic process. But people who are either foolish enough to think it doesn't affect them or arrogant enough to dismiss the concerns of others are some of the biggest ones. TBC ...
Also keep in mind that your Cheerios could dry up at any time and you'll only have shit to eat. Vote as if you know you're only one disaster away from destitution, because YOU ARE.
Oh. I think I understand.
As a creator, you have the power and opportunity to change peoples hearts and minds, and I personally emplore you to do so, whether it's with your art or your platform. Keep using your voice and being awesome!
Having a family full of immigrants and being brown myself, the privilege of not voting this past election was hard to see. It was gambling with people's lives and look where we are now. Maga is maga, but many people who wanted to help vulnerable people ended up hurting more than helping in the end
I can't believe what I'm saying but I want to admit this. I love both of your shows! I feel how you're feeling right now, and shouldn't have happened. I feel so many things right now.
btw. someone should do it. Like not me, I'm not even American, but like... someone... www.reddit.com/r/comics/com...
Stay strong, Viv! Don't let the fascists MAGA pigs get to you!
Viv, I did not vote for that pile of evil vermin infesting the, as I now call it, “ the whites only house “. I voted for Kamala. Until that batch of human excrement are removed from power and this country, many federal holidays are now on my own shite list.
Your not just a "Creator" for people's entertainment. You're a human being, anyone who believes you should just "shut up and make art" don't care for you human rights and should not be listened to.
Technically second generation on my mom's side and third on my dad's and I'm freaking disgusted as well. This country has sucked for a long time but now...Jesus.
Never shut up. Never stop making art.
Anyone that didnt go out in vote is just as complicit in this dictatorship rising as the stupid MAGA people are. On top of everything they're selling fucking merchandise of the concentration camps too. They're so blatantly evil they dont even care to hide it anymore
I know I don’t celebrate the 4th of July since I am Australian and don’t listen to what other people tell you what you can and can’t do you just be yourself plus you have a lot of strength and know how to put your foot down and refuse to let anyone bully you and I respect that.
I fail to understand why people voted for him. He's really fucking the country over.
Media running manipulation and his base being easily manipulated
No fuck you: ppl liked ur art but now ur just attacking others so there going to attack u probably 100 times more than you are getting attacked now so shut up and make your fucking show.
Oh we got a trumpie…
Shut up
Make me
I definitely know how you feel. And I'm not even American. Seriously, your words are justified.
Art is inherently political. People who think art should be devoid of politics are just whining that the politics in the art they consume no longer support them. They are almost always the villains in the stories. Their opinion is invalid.
I agree. Even the act of choosing the art you consume whether it’s a book or a tv show like Hazbin Hotel (there are other forms of art but I’m simplifying it for arguments sake) is political. I’m tired of people pretending like the art they consume isn’t because it always has been.
There's people on discord that believe that art has always been apolitical as escapism was the most important. I still can't forget an AI bro openly calling us artists "drawslaves" nor I can forgive.
... drawslaves?... i... you... they... just... Im sorry me think brain brain stroke out what?
This was on twitter. That was the final nail in the coffin on how just far gone these entitled creeps are on that hellsite. One of the major factors of WHY I left that nazi bar.
This is true. I’ve never met an anti-political “art” consumer who actually cared about art. Rather, they just want their scripts to replace their brains and hearts with more garbage.
I cut off people who voted for him. My family are complicit in this, so I don't really have them anymore. Lost long time friends too, but I've still got my husband and my health. I've still got things I love and I'm gonna enjoy them, and if the regime comes knocking, I'm going down swinging.
no you should keep being loud about it because it's important and I for one am happy to be supporting a show and creator who is on the right side of things.
I will never understand that attitude about artists. We are people, we have the right to speak or not speak in any issue just like anyone else.
And anyone who didn’t vote for Kamala is on my list too. A vote against Kamala only helped the orange demon win and they were too stupid to understand that.
I mean this in a respectful way, I WAS getting a little irked as more and more posts have been like this, I kept thinking "I don't like the bastard either, but focusing on it isn't gonna do your mental health any favors" Then I saw "daughter of an immigrant" and instantly went "Okay, valid, 100%".
I also find it pretty vile how your haters claim you, a native Hispanic woman, don't face any discrimination cause you have lighter skin. But hey, it's not as if Hitler killed 6 million jews during the 1940s despite the fact that they had light skin.
I agree cuz as a daughter of immigrants I feel so bad about celebrating a country that is causing damage to people who works so hard to maintain their family in other countries and works as mules for this country …. But oh well!! enjoy the fireworks and scaring dogs today keep that in mind .💔
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The open jokes about alligators eating people just for trying to come here in attempt to find what used to be the American dream. No one is going to convince me that it would have somehow been the same outcome. I’m just at such a fucking loss. I’m full of rage and heartbreak.
i fear that you will also be targeted, not only they are looking at removing birthright citzenship, but they are quite open of their plan to place the entirerty of the latino population of the united states in concentration camps
I feel bad ignoring the news, but at the same time, I can’t stand seeing that orange prick on my screen any longer. 😤 It honestly makes my feel so checked out of the news and how the world is coming to be…
It's death camps. Plain and simple. If not the gators, it will be the hurricanes. MACA - make America care again.
I'm so terrified for my American friends and supporters. And terrified I'll have to watch helplessly as the Turd Reich moves to crush them.
I can agree more
The other night after reading Garcia's testimony about the true depths of depravity at CECOT, I tossed and turned for hours in the night out of pure rage. Honestly, fuck those who tell us to just shut up and create. Creation comes from emotion and emotion makes us and our art fucking real.
The democrats couldve stopped this from happening a thousand ways. I dont think theyd have done all this but they couldve actually worked to reach people with a promise of change. Instead they let trump run amock. This is on the democratic party as much as it is on nonvoters and republicans.
Hi Vivienne, i have made an hazbin hotel character that i think you might like, i want to tell you about it in private can you maybe message me? I promise that i won't disappoint you. Little teaser, the name of the character is Ice.
it breaks my heart and keeps me up at night. all the scared little kids that just want to go home. they are too young to understand what is going on. why, just why.
Be loud. Be rageful. But remember to be focused and on guard, too. We're in dark times, and we need to be together and sharp if we're going to survive.
To tell you truth the sewage has always been filled with unique creature so no one knows if a Gator is going to be in the sewer so I believe in you 100% I lived in new york around there and we've always grown up with the gators and the sewer legends
Idk, fuck the 4th of July this year. We are prancing right into a dictatorship, enjoy the stupid fireworks I guess.
I had to work on the 4th of July. Truly celebrating it properly
I think it's good to see people like you calling out all the bullshit.
kesha's new album release day, caesar salad day, comics sans day, alice in wonderland day...far more deserving things to observe than our current hellhole.
I’m binging British steam train videos as we speak.
Malia Obama’s birthday . That’s all I got fam .
I won't sit here and say I don't empathize with your view, but not all is truly lost. I celebrate this day because the people that signed a piece of parchment 249 years ago were actually signing a death warrant; they had everything to lose and nothing to gain with who they were fighting then.
Over the years, we evolved as a species with the morals of the times, we fought wars to establish them as what we believed in, we argued with each other for weeks to show how much we wanted them, and ordinary people lived through times that were arguably just as, if not way more worse than today.
These ordinary people were the ones that made it that way, and they all lived and died for what our country had ought to be, the ideals, the opportunities, the newly found realities, etc. We shouldn't celebrate it as a reminder of our past, we should be celebrating it as a reminder of who we are.
It's why I'm referring to today as 'Hot Dog Day'; not much to celebrate.
If you want things to change then get involved in your community. Too many people sit around crying. I am actually involved where I live in a political party and a community league. I now make policies. Or start using non-violent resistance.
The US shouldn't even be considered a democracy cause of the electoral college. If the people aren't heard, is it a democracy? The answer's a big fat NO.
I haven't celebrated it in years. I celebrate my mom's birthday instead(born the same day).
Same here. People have been using 4th of July to screech about "escapism!" when the ugly truth has been there since America's first 140 years.
It's a horrible day in US history.
Amen! A sentiment I agree with entirely.
No, you already are in a dictatorship and have been for a while now, you gringos are a bit slow about understanding that
Agreed. This administration is a fucking joke, can’t wait for karma to bite them where it fucking hurts.
I never cared about some cash poor president Trump. I did some fireworks and enjoyed the drones and firework show in Coral Gables. It was the 100th anniversary of Coral Gables. After the show I watched episode of Ultraman Omega. It was awesome!
Happy resistance day! ✊ Using today as motivation to keep fighting the good fight. I dare say we love America more than any magat ever could because we actually give a shit what happens to the people in it.
If hell is forever then heaven must be a lie If angels can do whatever and remain in the sky The rules are shades of gray when you don't do as you say When you make the wretched suffer just to kill them again!!!!
This nicely applies to politics.
Well true
new tradition, wear black on the 4th. it's a funeral
Vivzie, trust me, I hate the guy too.
Boo hoo
Personally I would habe thought that it has never been more important to celebrate and remember that today marks your independence from monarchy. But I'm European so it's an outsider's perspective.
But also, don't shut up.
I never really celebrate this “holiday” since there’s no clear “independence” behind the name. I call it Pollution Day.
It's not something to celebrate anymore since those parasites ruined everything. It's hard to celebrate something that been ruined by bigots. Land of the free my ass.
This is so real, exactly where I'm at, too. A lot of reflection on whether or not this is ACTUALLY a great nation - like has it EVER really been? 4th of July just seems like "redneck civil disobedience day" to me at this point.
I think people are celebrating fireworks, not so much Independence Day.
Agreed. I just can't enjoy this day anymore
Fuck yeah. Go off.
I don’t see the point aswell
The funny thing is last year I was hearing fireworks at 4 in the morning and seeing people in my neighborhood outside literally ALL DAY at last years fourth of July. This year I haven't heard a single firework, haven't seen anyone outside, nothing. And I don't blame em!
In a way July the 4th celebration is as a country, what is there to Celebrate? Everyday just feel like this country is crumbly then rise instead of us rise show American in a good light we have done the opposite the founder fathers roll in their graves
We usually have 4th of July parties in our neighborhood but I'm not doing it this year so I agree with you I prefer the sound of Thunder than a firecracker or a fireworks Thunder is more safer for the environment
Good lord, I know that the rest of the planet is also never having a good time, including my own stupid country, but damn I feel bad for the sane people lving in America right now. No amount of "be strong" and "best wishes" can make it feel better, this is just horrid.
Honestly, Viv. I think you should just move up here to Canada. Better than staying there with Trump in charge. Hell, you would love it in NS.
Anywhere but Ontario...
Yeah. Too expensive. I should know.
Let's pray that voting off republicans would be a pain on Trump's ass
Everything sucks and is awful except this little guy so please enjoy this elderly Rosy Maple Moth I caught last night (I’ve been keeping him in a jar so he has a safe place to pass on)
Update: I told my roommate that I had asked Instagram for suggestions on what to show Grandpa before he goes to moth heaven and they did this
Thank you, I've been really mad too and if anything, I feel a bit better seeing I'm not alone ;.;
There plenty I can say,I will not even know if you will read this comment V. But I will say this. I,like you am deeply terrified of the path we're heading in: a path where empathy is a sin. However,what we have is you,SH and the community you and everyone here built,where love,joy and hope is.
I know its not enough to burn away all the darkness we're facing in this era of history. But its good to have friends and family,even if its just online. Feel free to message me on DM's V. Im open to talk if you need to get something off your chest. Stay safe sister❤️. -007
Viv, you are an amazing artist and creator. I get it, shit’s fucked, hard. I just hope you know there’s a lot of people here who agree and who wish we could do more from around the globe. Thrive, create, and love, if not for yourself, then to spite them. We adore you and your work. Thank you.
Honestly this was beach year for my family and me. We too busy enjoying family company and pina coladas with the Goonies playing. Heeheehee
Viv, don’t let he who shall not be named get to you, he’s due for a heart attack anyway after all he’s 79 and out of shape, we should just focus on the positive and hope for what’s best
So, here's where I'm at. First, I'm white, decended from Irish, Scottish, and Scandinavian immigrants several generations back. But I'm also a true American. I support my neighbors, no matter their history. This is OUR country and I'm celebrating what made us great. What we may need to do again
I didn’t celebrate. I can’t celebrate USA’s “freedom” when people are actively being kidnapped and held without habeas corpus for simply wanting to live the “American Dream”. Instead July 4th is now the day I met my favorite pop culture content creator and gifted them a dragon of their likeness. 🥰
Happy national day off day honestly
Nope I gotta work it lol
I work retail i'm afraid, so I've never gotten the 4th off, get slightly better pay for a few hours at least...sometimes.
I live in an extremely low come in area where some people don't even have ACCESS to voting. So yeah, screw u to I guess, I hate politics and im so done with people talking abt it-
She is obviously not talking about people who CANNOT vote, yall are trying so hard to make her look like a bad person.
I hate to tell ya, but you aren't going to have a choice but to engage in politics going forward. Things are about to get really scary really fast, especially for those of us who are poor, minorities, queer, etc. I know it's not fun, but that's the world now. Be informed for your own safety.
Not really. Since no one is doing anything people are just going to entirely check out. It is like a sport where one team is too dominant. Trump wins every single fight and people will just stop paying attention. Don't expect others to torture themselves. They have no requirement to.
We are repeatedly told there is no way to stop this or save ourselves and that's it. So, why torture yourself on the specifics? Doesn't sound like being aware prevents anything for the person. Just gives them crippling fear.
it's a tough balance, I'll give you that, but tuning out completely isn't a solution, 90 million people didn't vote in November, if only a handful did, we would be in a better place. And with the brownshirts getting a military sized budget yesterday, we need to be at least peripherally aware
of what's going on for our own safety, especially if you are somebody they might target when they run out of immigrants to harass. Still, do what's best for your own mental health. Tune out when you need to, just check back in here and there
especially in early November each year, otherwise this will never end.
I would also like to point out that I live in the New Haven area so- Yeah, safe to say some people's living conditions (especially kids) are not the best...
Imagine Trump attacking her wonder how that would end:
It’s Americans birthday @vivziepop.bsky.social for celebration in USA
When I celebrate 4th of July, I don’t celebrate what America is. I celebrate what it’s supposed to be. I praise it’s ideals, but I’m disgusted with the people who live in it, the people who corrupt it and turn it into a fascistic nightmare. Viv, I wish you luck in future endeavors.
At least the fireworks will be better than the grandstanding performance that is a signing of the bill, and most of the policies laid out won’t go in effect until soon after the midterms
I'm actively looking forward to them dying from the medicaid cuts they voted for at this point. It's the only silver lining I can find. The rest of us are collateral damage.
Im not celebrating 4th of July, what I want is to leave this country, and most of my relatives dont want to leave because of investments, hell I've been stabbed in the back for that
I agree, I can't celebrate the birthday of America because it's become unrecognizable anymore.
100% agree. Wife wanted to go see fireworks tonight and I told her I'm not celebrating.
There are 49% of Americans who didn't vote for him in the first place. His likeability is at an all time low, so the number today would be higher and he'd lose. He can't become a dictator, not until he has over 90% of you on his side, or unless he'd try really hard, which he's too incompetent for.
You know what to do. Keep going. In a few years he will land before the judge once again, and if it becomes while he's in the office still, even better.
There is a horrible amount of truth in all of these statements. This Indipendence Day there's nothing to celebrate. The Orange took it all, trampling ob everything that remained of it.
yeah, I dont know how to feel about this either.
I agree. Those who voted for trump enjoy gobbling on his fake spray tanned dick while receiving Backshots from Putin and Elon Muskrat. No wonder the world is starting to hate us. I feel bad for everyone that has to suffer because of the Oompa Loompa looking son of a bastard
I hope the tumor dies today
I feel this is my soul. Fuck everyone who chose evil over humanity.
*in. I’m sorry.
I will! Thanks!
Folks don’t realize that turning away from the horrors is a privilege and one that hurts their neighbors. We need people speaking out and naming these horrors. My grandfather came to this country after his was destroyed in WW2, and we’re back in the fucking building again. Never stop speaking up Viv
Don’t worry Viv, Nuremberg 2.0 is loading. Europe didn’t expect to fight US Nazis this year but hey, plot twists. Love from the UK ❤️💙💛💜 Funny, we used to be the villains( litterally what the 4th is about) but now we’re rooting for you to kick the Nazis out.
Every year, I celebrate the Fourth of July at Anime Expo. 😋
Trump es un atout russe nazi
A creater is a still a person who lives and breathes in this country. It impacts us all the same. Keep using your platform!
It would not have been the same. Not this time, not the last time. My whole life I've heard that kindness is a form of strength...and now, more that ever, we need to be strong. They're assholes. The assholery is the point, and it ain't subtle. The cruelty is the point.
I work at a church. The first year we held a pride service, we were innundated with angry calls and emails. Made some of the congregants nervous. I just looked at them and said, it's easy to do the right thing when there's no consequences; it's a lot harder to hold the line when push comes to
shove. I think about that a lot now. A LOT.
“…the American Dream” It’s more of Post-WW2, unspoken social contract that we no longer have, meaning where full-time work guarantees a middle-class lifestyle and basic needs are met. Adam Something already talked about it on this video: youtu.be/sWHxKD27XKk?...
they're not even talking immigrants either, they're talking ALL latinos. they've gone full mask off i even got my very trump supporting dad to see this far (we're cuban)
loomer needs to perish
the situation has deteriored and will continue to deteriorate, they will only fail if people do something, and in the current admitration of the united states, the court jesters are the ones in executive positions
Loomer is such a rotten evil heinous bitch! WTF?!🤬😡👿
Thank you for using your platform to speak out. I've never been more disgusted by my own country than I have this year. I'm pissed and scared, but the Hellaverse comforts me so much. I love how unapologetically queer it is and that helped me discover MY queerness (Angel was my awakening lol)
Never, ever shut up while you make art. Don't shut up when you're not making art. Your work is essential, and so is your voice. I'm with you!
Nothing more political than art. Our identities as queer people as well as our personal history of immigration are inherently political. Please, never stop speaking out for what you believe in - your human experience is part of your work and that’s why we found community around it
A compromise would be political art. Then people have a new reason to be mad. (Cause ofc people can never be happy.) The immigration stuff was horrible. It got worse when Congress posted "ASMR Deportation" on the official account. There are negative levels of empathy.
Reminder: All THE EMOTIONALLY COMPROMISED / COMPULSIVE, petty, selfish, willfully ignorant Dipshits who threw in / voted for (Orange Shitler) AGAIN are Indirectly responsible for this; They're not "victims" of their own ignorance, but Nazi *Accomplices. The World won't fucking forget this travesty🌐🇺🇳
There's Nothing to Celebrate Our Constitutional Republic & Democracy, is CURENTLY under atk by *Corrupt, Discriminate / Nazi / Racist / White Supremacist - induced, Nihilistic, Sociopathic, Coruupted / Fake "christian" Occultist, lunacunts.* Innocent ppl less fortunate than us are going to die.
art has always been an important tool against fascism, don’t let them silence you
💪🔥❤️ I fully support this statement!
I’m still by your side Viv, I’m sorry for all you’ve been going through a lot lately. Wishing you 🙏 and still hoping things can get better eventually.
I'm forever grateful for loud creators who never shut up. The world needs more of them. Give em hell, Viv. ✊️
Fuck the fascists! I'm feeling much the same way. The only way we make it through this dystopia is together.
There's a reason artists and creators are always targets of authoritarians. Keep talking, keep fighting ❤️
Never shut up! Use that art to amplify your voice and be heard. ✊🏼💕
If anything, the Democrats are at fault. The Hillary campaign thought Trump would be an easy opponent and literally helped him win the primary. Biden didn't really do much. It's basically like we just had an extra Trump term. Biden is demented and Dems still tried to push him anyway. 1/2
This is one of the big issues with trying to get people to vote for dems. Obama stopped none of Bush's policies. Biden stopped none of Trumps. All dems do is act as a pause for further horrid things. They don't reverse what has happened.
Also, the Democrats waited too long to replace him and went with the unpopular Kamala Harris without even having a primary. That was a deeply unpopular move, and they know it. 2/2
Are you serious right now? I hope you're not, because childish harmful attitudes like this are the reason the Cheeto won. Also, real interesting how you call the black woman who did everything she could to stand up against a wannabe dictator "deeply unpopular" and indirectly blame her for everything
She was unpopular as evidenced by being the only one of three candidates to lose the popular vote to Cheeto
I wouldn't call 66.8 million votes unpopular, but go off I guess
Here Here, I could agree more 🥰
I voted for Harris, but those MAGAts are gonna pay eventually.
I would add those who voted for Jill Stein (or some other third party candidate) for ANY reason. Pic related.
I won’t blame those who weren’t able to vote because of voter suppression tactics tho; they wanted to vote but basically had their right to vote stolen from them.
Expecting artists to stay silent about anything, but especially the state of their lives and the world around them, is so disconnected from what art even is. Please don't give up. You kicked out a king once, you proved it's possible. Cheering you on from Canada!
No one should stay silent, it doesn't matter if you're an artist or whatever the fuck. You are entitled to your informed opinion. We nominally still have a constitutional right to free speech in this country. SCREAM IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS UNTIL FASCISM IS DEFEATED.
Go off. Fascists deserve no quarter. The fewer spaces they feel comfortable, the better!
Our strength comes in collective power. We cannot afford to divide ourselves with lines we haven't even tried to help people cross. We are all kinsmen. Many are open to discussion if you make the effort. We do better to make new allies from the opposition than to push them away.
I too am mourning what this country could have been. My family is all disabled in some way shape or form, and we're all lgbtq+ or at least very supportive. And now, Nintendo basically pulled a Marie Antoinette and said let them eat cake. This July 4th is worse than the last one.
I worry for my friends who are children of immigrants, or immigrants themselves. I worry for my LGBTQ+ friends. I worry about RFK wanting to basically make an autism registry "for research" because I for sure will end up on that.
I’m with ya. Fuck every single dictator enabling PAB.
I am not celebrating because I have friends who are immigrants. Two are already back in Laos and Sri Lanka, they had student VISA and were about to graduate. One was also preparing to immigrate here. It sickens me as the maid of honor and bestie
Wow, this is immature as hell. I agree with saying fuck you to those who voted Maga But those who didn't vote could have reasons to vote, either they didnt want to worry about it, or they couldn't secure a way to actually travel to go vote, there's more reasons than simply not wanting to vote at all
Yet it’s pretty clear she’s talking about ppl that CHOSE not to.
Okay? Still- it's hella immature to insult people for their own choice.
Not when people are dying because of that choice. It’s immature to think people should still get to be passive when lives are at stake.
I am the daughter of immigrants. A first generation who worked their ass off to get to where they are. Seeing that evil wanting to strip my citizenship because my parents were not citizens, wanting me dead because I am tanned skin, because I am LGBTQ, as a teacher with kids who will suffer....
from potentially having family ripped away, them not getting the care they need for disabilities, being seen as the "surplus population", its literal hell. But, we will keep fighting the Satanic cult that is MAGA for our freedom and our future.
Let's not rope Satan into this. The Ninth Rule of the Earth, in LaVeyan Satanism, is "Do not harm little children."
Then its something even deeper than hell because they sure ain't heaven folk nor are they in the upper layer of hell.
It is very much a christian cult, not satanic!
True
i mean everything they do follows more in line with what Satan would want so its more delusional Christian fanatics
They call themselves Christian and the truest of truly true true Christians. It isnt Christian like what they are doing of course, they just doing it in Christianity name and following their god of felon 47. But yes they are by definition massive heretics
It’s really and truly the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen. Talking about wanting a live camera feed to be accessible so they can watch HUMAN BEINGS being kept in inhuman conditions and possibly eaten alive. What the fuck has to be wrong with you to WANT to witness that sort of thing?
Best post i've seen all month, stay awesome and stay angry and stay radical, Viv!
Preach it
I've been feeling nothing but American Shame for a while now. If this is what America is about now, then there's nothing to be proud of.
He may have destroyed my faith in humanity, but I've given up my cynicism and I'll be going to use my built up anger to help forge a better future.
It's time for us to live les mis.
We respect you for so much more than shutting up and making art. Your community is behind you, always.
stay strong girl maga can kiss our ass and never come back if people are being racism
100%, Cheetolini and his cult can yeet themselves off this planet. I have no respect for anyone who didn’t vote. They made their choice obvious that they didn’t care enough to even try. And I had to watch all this from my country and had no say in the matter other than, please just go vote.
100% agree. I'm someone who was in the MAGA crowd from 2016-2021. I genuinely believed Trump was for America. It took attacking the nation's capital for me to see the light. The four years from January 6th to now to realize what I lost in supporting the bastard. (Part 1)
I didn't have many friends in high school and rightfully so. MAGA is a cult and seeing much of the world take a far right turn is concerning. If someone like me can change, anyone can. We're not going back. I know I sure as hell won't!
I don't know you but I'm so glad you got out. I blocked my cousin in America after the last election as she was a full on Trump puppet and I just couldn't take it.
There are few MAGA who admit where they went wrong, and I’m very happy that you woke up at all.
Welcome to the light and I am glad you got out while you could. It takes guts to make the stand to leave any high pressure group.
The things being said breaks my heart. I have no idea how people can treat other humans like this. It is disgusting and horrible.
Evil is rare, but it's loud. It takes 18 years to raise a child and seconds to kill one. But there are always people helping. Join them.
Trump es un cadeau pour poutine
C'est vrai, mais il est aussi la maîtresse de Poutine.
Oui
If season 3 of Helluva is a working class revolution, Raise Up Your Bat from Deltarune would be a great song. I guess someone could do an animatic of it.
