Give him a trench coat and some well syled hair, and have him based in LA. It would be cool if he ran a detective agency as a cover to hunt down demons... sorry, I meant criminals.

I think you just described The Old Testement, Gail.

I'd be cool with anything that gets the skull logo off people's black pickups.

Especially when it's right next to "the Thin Blue Line" sticker.

Or Charon?🤔

I’m down for this sort of “avenging sword of G-d’s Old Testament justice” idea, provided Frank Castle is a biblically accurate wheel of fire, myriad eyed monstrosity.

That'd be great if you could arrange for a crossover with Angela/Aldrif Odinsdottir too.

You mean like Roma Downey or Della Reese?

I approve of this!

But would he smile more?

😂😂😂

An angle? That just obtuse.

I mean... Lucifer was an angel, so... 🤷

I’m hoping at some point, instead of getting angrier, I will transform into Gabriel. And do Gabriel things

... Would this include him getting musical numbers with a cool guitar? ^^

Maybe he could have some kind of stare that makes people feel repentant .

Would Microchip be Buffy?

Shows George Bailey what Bedford Falls would be like if he hadn't been born. "Help me, Frank! Get me back!" Punisher hands George a shotgun. "We've got a town to clean up George."

Can his guns shoot glowing angel bullets to punish the wicked?

Didn't Christopher Golden and Thomas Sniegoski write that for Marvel Knights?

You're a madwoman in the best way! 🤣

Didn’t Marvel already try that and it failed? lol

(That’s the joke … the fact you typed “lol” causes people to infer that you fell for an obvious trap with you whole chest)

What does a biblically accurate punisher look like?

Will he smile more?

Does he smile more?

There is literally a batman story where he and punisher team up and punisher turns into an angel halfway through after facing off with Hellboy.

What if the punisher symbol was actually just an angelic sigil that sent people to hell. How do we activate them?

So his skull emblem is really just feathers and eyes?

Oooh and maybe it was actually a demon who killed his whole family.

Frank getting cursed to spend Valentines Day as Cupid

You have just put the idea "biblically accurate Punisher" into my head. Which wouldn't be so bad if I weren't married to an artist who loves to produce nightmare fuel, and who I *am* going to mention it to this afternoon.

We’ll be on the edge of our seats

"BE VERY AFRAID!" proclaimed the mass of eyes and wings and gun barrels.

Sleep well tonight, Doug! 🤣🤣

Hehehehehe

And Ghost Rider is a demon? And they make out?

😉 May I suggest Shot by an Angel as a possible title, Gail?

A Punishing Angel you say?

Or at least has the smile of an angel.

like an investor?

What if he was a Frankenstein?

Hmm, could work. Might need a new name though, like, I don't know, the Spectre?

I dunno, sounds iffy. Might make for a good in-universe TV show, though! :33

He always was!

No, wait… what if he was an ANGLE!? He’d make a cute angle… right?

I love the energy Gail, but consider this. What if we went darker. I'm talking goth. I'm thinking classic literature. That's right... Punisher as Frankenstein's Monster!

For some reason that just makes me picture Constantine.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_...

We know he later becomes Ghost Rider. So how does that fit in?

He’d need LOTS of mascara.

Like Clint Eastwood's character in Pale Rider! (And High Plains Drifter)

The kind that makes the Food Cakes? I can see that working.

SMT2 might give you some ideas.

Nah, it's just Loki.

Well he was the Angel of vengeance in 1998-1999 Marvel Knights. Issue was he committed suicide, through demon manipulation, and was brought back.

I thought that became non-canon when Garth Ennis started his run?

Not non-canon, just acknowledged in about three lines of dialogue. “They sent me back,” or words to that effect. Which is always the best way to handle continuity- just zip past the bits you don’t like.

Thank you. And you’re true, those four words were enough.

Ennis devoted a line to it where he basically just has the Punisher go "Yeah, angels hired me, then I quit"

Biblically Accurate Frank Castle?!

Does he have sapphire goggles to help him control his fire extinguisher beams?

...of Death?

Frank Castle is a demon of humanity’s own making. Leave him be and let him die by his own sword.

Well, hey. I bought it once, I’d probably buy it again.

And what if he had some kind I don't know, fiery, angel-guns or something?

Would that make him smile more?

I’ve always understood that he’s sort of an avatar of justice or a revenant type character, atleast according to Punisher Born. That he ‘inadvertently’ makes some sort of deal to allow him to fight indefinitely as long as he sacrifices his own family as payment.

I have this cool idea where the Punisher is just a guy with a spanking kink.

Maybe a certain spirit of vengeance could help.

Is he in the outfield?

...sigh...

Isn't that just the Spectre?

Kind of like Raquel, the Angel of Justice & Retribution? He's bad news - he'd be the guy God would send to 'tune up' Ghost Rider, if the Rider was out of hand. It'd make sense they'd want a badass like Frank for his vessel.

That'd never work. But what if he was a Frankenstein?

Wait. Hear me out. Mothra. Professor X can be Rodan.

Franken-castle, surprisingly, is not the silliest thing he's been through.

Not a big fan of Frank, but really loved that run.

Too soon.

Literally or figuratively? If literally, human with wings or unknowable horror?

I have to admit that, despite all the hate that run receives, i feel some curiosity about it, and maybe some day i read it

How about one where the Punisher kills the entire Marvel Universe

Tonight, the role of Frank Castle will be played by Jim Corrigan.

I've basically played this in a campaign.

I wonder if the Punisher does his own silk-screening for his tee-shirts. I think he might be low-key crafty.

For someone called Punisher, he issues remarkably few puns.

Can we have a Punisher/Constantine collab?

Oh, that beats my idea (What if Warpath could, like, fly?)

Did you read the post War of the Realms Punisher Kill Krew?

They already tried that. Sort of.

I bet he’d smile more if he was an angel.

well he was a Demon for a while

And then he could go on a hunt for God because He would be scared of his powers or something

Isn't that what that Shaggy song was about?

We could use one of those in America right now.

Gail

Take. My. Money.

But what if Angel was the Punisher???

That would be kind of a cool story arc for Warren. Archangel was kinda cool when he was still a thing.

I'm a firm believer that Angel works best as a tragic character who always becomes Archangel

By contrast, I don't think Angel has ever really worked well. 🤷‍♀️

I might argue that Angel worked best in the early days of the X-Men when just having flight made him comparable in power to everyone else. But everyone else leveled up and the Archangel years made him mopey and sad.

He's a mutant whose Dad tried to have his wings surgically removed because he wouldn't fit into "polite society" as an obvious mutant. He's always been kind of mopey and sad just below the surface.

His mopiness and sadness have been turned up to 11 since the ‘80s. Maybe I just don’t recall him whining so much in the Defenders and Champions. I am getting older.

I figured he was written to the period pretty well. Most everyone I knew in the 90s was mopey as hell.

Man, when you’re on a team with Cyclops and he says “Warren, you are one mopey-ass MFer,” you know you’re being too whiny. Warren has been able to afford a good therapist forever, but only really made a career out of whining since the ‘90s. Doc Samson can put his kids through college off of Warren.

Doc Sampson will NEVER not have clients in the Marvel Universe.

I think this is what the song Angel With a Shotgun is about.

I'd rather see him smiling