The Democratic Party is hemorrhaging voters long before they even go to the polls, a new analysis shows. Voters four-year swing from 2020 to 2024 toward the Republicans adds up to 4.5 million voters, a deep political hole that could take years to climb out from. nyti.ms/45ZDJKQ
Your leaving out that there are more Independent/No Party voters in most states than there are Republican and Democrat combined…
Why? Because Dems are following James Carville advice—do nothing, let maga regime implode. Well how’s that working? TX Dems went nuclear. Civilian are moving toward civil disobedience. Dems need to take risks, lead, build coalitions. Need to go nuclear! Walk out on CR vote? Save our democracy.
The Democratic Party is a joke. Until they stop working for AIPAC and start working for the American people, they can’t stop the bleeding.
Other analysis shows owners of newspapers are growing richer and richer, thanks to Trump...
Both can be true
Maggie 'Duranty' Haberman and The Nefarious New York Times are repeating their history of enabling apologists for corrupt Republican regimes www.citjourno.org/maggie3
So what do they do? Throw the left under the bus over their addiction to AIPAC blood money. And to prove the point, lurch ever rightward by trotting out Liz fucking Cheney. And still they fund and ignore nazis genociding Palestine, thinking we'll forget? RIPiss.
Oh are we still pretending that Democrats will be allowed to vote at all?
NYT celebrating the success of its collaboration with the KKKristofascists because the only thing that matters to oligarch-owned Zombie Fourth Estate is securing and entrenching plutocracy. #BOYCOTTNYT
They deserve what’s coming then.
The Fascist States of America. We all know where this ends.... And fuck all that are helping, we will never forget
Hope not!
Registration doesn’t matter. Texas has more registered Dems than GOP and is solid red. These stupid stats are not an accurate means of forecasting how someone would vote. Voting matters- not whether you are registered Dem or GOP
BS
Now do 2025.
What kind of conservative bullshit is this? Do better NYT.
Reporting data numbers is conservative? The Democratic Party has a sub 20% approval rating for a reason, and it has more reasons than media bias.
The Republicans are repulsive and accepting an authoritative governance. Have a good evening.
Obviously. Doesn’t mean our own party is free from problems. You as well!
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Time to wake up and smell the roses!
Oh holy hell shut the fuck up
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Exactly
“Hemorrhaging” lol. Fuck off with the drama.
Facts don't care about your feelings or something 😅
We are stuck between idiots and the gutless.
Hmm, wonder why? Perhaps it’s the shift away from working families to overeducated individuals and their niche, unpopular ideologies.
What a bunch of horseshit. Recent polling shows that Trump is underwater by 20 points if not more. On every issue that matters. With the possible exception of the border. Inflation is out of control and the voters will hold Trump responsible. Because he is responsible.
Recent polls also show that Democratic Party favorability is in the dumpster. Leadership sucks
Unfortunately, I agree with you im material respects. We need more Newsom and more Pritzker, and less Jefferies and less Schumer.
The reasons leadership sucks also creeps into Gavin’s cons. His candidacy for Governor was totally funded by wealthy and corporate elite in CA. That doesn’t mean he’s not doing the right thing now, you just need to keep money in mind for who these folks truly represent going into the primaries.
Do you consider most on this list to be the wealthy & corporate elite? (They mostly look OK to me. ?) www.opensecrets.org/officeholder...
Nope! That’s why I only said “creeps” I’m most talking about his well connected origins in CA politics and the wealthy families that put him on the map, not just his most recent election. We’ll see what $$$ he starts taking for 28
Ah but I did specifically say his governor candidacy, my fault.
If unclean money helps clear the path for a man to ascend to gubernatorial power, which he then uses as a platform to effectively oppose national fascism and authoritarianism and thereby help save democracy, I will hold my nose and embrace the continuation of the Republic.
I would add that, in the past almost every political candidate with good odds of winning took money from corporations.
Not all corporations are built the same. Someone gargling BlackStone money has different priorities than someone accepting donations from state or local orgs Harris had more small donor money than Trump's total, so it only matters to a point.
I don’t agree, and getting behind someone who you self admittedly has “dark money” is a sure fire way to cause apathy as we approach 28. Folks are sick of the cronyism.
These are perilous times. Would you prefer Newsom in ‘28 or Trump(ism)? That is the choice.
That’s not the choice. Plenty of other decisions to be made before the party wants to force us into preferring corporate profit over authoritarian corporate profit. And if that’s the path you he Democratic Party takes, they reap what they sow, even with my support in November
I agree with you about corporate profit/money and even such grotesque influences as AIPAC $ as corrupting influences. But we diverge on what I see as a binary choice.
Precisely. Forcing folks into a binary is why our ability to critically think about our civic duty has been reduced to what it is. Who am I to say that other’s can’t follow it tho First past the post is a bitch.
JB? Self funded to the point where he has more leeway in his statements, thus why we have seen him be a bit more aggressive. I hope he also keeps it up.
Either I share this country with a fuckton of Nazis and fascists, or I'm living in the Twilight Zone.
Dem party was workers' solid friend and voice. It excited the base. Then it sat back as labor unions died, jobs went overseas. To reclaim mojo, it must champion workers, the spine of the party and nation. Appreciate their importance, which is greater than 1-percenters. Workers pay more taxes, too.
As someone who lives in ID, many registered Republican because they have closed primaries. And ID Republicans run bat-shit-crazy candidates in their primaries, so it is the only way to have a say for someone slightly less bat-shit-crazy. So do take at least ID's number with a grain of salt.
Solution: put young, forward-looking people into Dem leadership to get people energized. www.anildash.com/2025/08/20/z... Then again, I'm old enough to remember how @nytimes.com opposed Mamdani in the primary.
One reason is Democrats support of violence, crime, anti white racism, antisemitism. Bullying, intolerance are also words I hear when some say they can no longer support Democrats.
NYT has completely fallen to the oligarchy.
What about this year?
As Trump continues to alienate and horrify voters the 2025 numbers are going to swing back to Democrats.
Or at least become informed independents?
It only shows just how many stupid people live in America.
You must be so very happy: maybe they will buy subscriptions Would love to see the gray lady on life support For being so ANTIAmerican
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But Trump could only get 49.9% of the vote in 2024
.... it was enough to win.
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The Democratic Party Faces a Voter Registration Crisis f the nyt gift link
We are surrounded by nincompoops.
We’re living in Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch’s wet dream where people believe whatever lies get the most impressions
Most people have eyes and can see through the D’s party’s “party of workers” facade. They need authentic leadership instead of Wall St’s favorite boys
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Or from 1/20 onward which feels like years
The rapid (and voluntary) downfall of American democracy in favor of fascism, bigotry and billionaires.
Merkins is dumb, yup
Yeah, but there’re also a lot of independents who are fed up with both parties. A lack of social services, health care, and high-priced groceries are going to sway some MAGAs to vote for Dems.
Time for Americans to massively support Democrats on all fronts, at every level. US Democrats deserve our support & respect (OBVIOUSLY)- standing up to Trump’s dangerous insanity every day, winning WWII, saving the economy EVERY DAMN TIME from corrupt incompetent Republicans for the past 100 yrs!!
Respect and support is earned my friend - no one is entitled to it.
Forgetting that "it's the economy, stupid" combined with ignoring inflation could factor into those voter losses.
Now look at party affiliation changes in the nearly 8 months since Trump took office.
Then America needs to experience some good ol’ MAGAt pain for awhile. #UgetsWhatUvotesFor
and #UGetsWhatUFailToVoteAgainst
Sheesh. We're still hoping for Americans to suffer terribly so people come crawling back to the Democratic Party? What a bleak, uninspired, lazy strategy.
the current “strategies” are working so well… Oh-Dems dont have any strategies. Everything is a reaction.
Yeah, the strategy of the American public for my entire 45 year life has been "crap on Democrats 24/7/365, blame them for everything, and vote for Republicans/let Republicans win to send Democrats a message". Apparently Repubs need to destroy us before we learn to finally try something different.
But it's not working. The "base" is leaving. Did you read the article? Have you looked around? Or are you in a bubble? Way, way too many Dems are in a bubble.
This only tracks to 2024? Some shit has gone down since then.
Simply looking at Republican vs Democrat doesn’t tell the real story. A good percentage of Republicans are mad at their party and a large percentage of Democrats are mad at their party. The political picture is much more complex than what is being presented here.
I wouldn’t worry too much. Voter registration is public and Republicans will hunt down and terrorize registered Democrats.
I wouldn't line my parrot's cage with the NYT...
Now do what the +/- is on the generic Congressional ballot in August of 2025, you ridiculous, mendacious clowns.
How many are registering as independents? The Demographic Party has lost credibility with the Left. Voters want to see actual progressive change and movement. Incrementally going nowhere, won’t cut it anymore.
Drastically going back to the 1850’s is better for those voters, I take it?
In the 1850s, the Democrats were a pro-slavery hard right Party. So no, that’s not what I’m talking about.
More and more are registering that way it seems, and it looks like a longer-term trend. Personally, after I voted third party in 2024 (for the first time ever) I left the party. Final straws etc.
You voted third party in 2024? Voters like you are why we have Trump 🙄.
Oh my dear reactionary.... I live in CT. I did my math beforehand. My vote didn't matter. We went blue as expected! You need to bitch at someone else for your party shitting the bed- and boy did they. I ain't the one you're looking for 😅
It may not have mattered in CT, but Trump won because not enough people voted for the other candidate. Two kids of people are guilty. The ones who voted for Trump, and the ones who didn’t vote for Harris. People think they’re punishing the Dems by putting Trump in office. LOL 😄
Ya, that's how elections work. She failed to garner enough votes to overcome Donald Trump.
Putting Donald Trump in office to punish the Dems (or any political party) is spectacularly dumb.
I mean... yeah? It's horrible. But she lost to this chucklefuck criminal. I don't think the party nor its supporters have fully reckoned with that. With their decisions that helped make it a reality.
They may recon with it or not, but the U.S. and the world may never recover.
Eh. Murica will get through this terrible Trump era I reckon, with its destruction and corrosive effects on our citizenry. We've been though much, much worse. I trust the world will too. Can't wait for stable, prosperous, comfy times again for all.
The media is portraying this as a rejection of the party’s movement to the Left. It’s actually the opposite, a rejection of the party for NOT moving to the Left.
Indeed, they tried to run to the right/center on so much in '24. Got rejected. Will they go to the left? I'm not sure. They absolutely did not run to the left recently.
As someone who identifies as D but registered independent last year to be able to vote against Trump in the primary, I wonder how much of this trend is explained by others doing the same. Not most, but part? (In the end I voted in the Dem primary.)
The @nytimes.com knows negative stories work. Just like against former President Biden. I also know who’s hemorrhaging subscribers because of lost of credibility @nytimes.com & @washingtonpost.com
Well I guess they prefer the current situation then. America is done. What a disgrace.
But the red states keep voting against their pocketbooks.
BULLSHIT NYT!
What explanation could there possibly be
Contested primary on the Dem side in 2020, uncontested for the GOP. Contested primary for the GOP in 2024, uncontested for the Dems. Doesn't it make sense for uncommitted voters to register as party with the interesting primary that year? Nah, let's focus on how everything is terrible for Dems.
Maybe update that with 2025 figures and we’ll see.
I changed my registration from Dem to UNA in NC so I can pick which primary to vote in. Also, NC lets you look up people's voter registration. I'm not taking a chance with being targeted by some crazy fucking Republican just because my information is public.
Excellent read - bleak. It does feel as if it's in a death spiral - losing relied-upon constituencies like various minority groups to the GOP, stuck w/ a registration strat that relies on rich donors giving to non-partisan groups, and with a platform/msg that comes off as plain skitzo at this point.
It all makes the Democratic Party seem ripe for taking over. That would be a lovely thing to see happen. They need a grassroots "Tea Party" moment I reckon.. otherwise, let them die on the vine. Worthless. This bit was heartwarming. Us "both sides" lot are the only sane ones in America it seems! 😅
Who can believe the The NYT?
Used to be, if a reporter made shit up, they were fired, and would never work again.
This article's full of a lot of BS. It cherry-picks data to make it's point. There IS NO Republican Party anymore. There is the Democratic Party and a Fascist cult of personality called MAGA.
The truth is that Democrats have done far better than expected in special elections since the Presidential election. And the GOP are afraid to even do a town hall.
Republicans have won the popular vote only twice in the past 35 years (and received over 50% of the vote only ONCE) but do go on about the crisis Democrats are in
given the Trump regime is targeting Dems - how many have registered as Independents??
Probably not as many as you're imagining. People have been leaving both parties for some time now. Hopefully that trend continues and increases.
And yet, there are still more registered Democrats than Republicans. Republicans have a deep political hole to climb out of.
Questionable reporting by NYT.
Less than half of registered voters are party affiliated.
Pointing to Republicans every time folks have a valid concern about Democrats will surely lead the party into a deeper hole
Dems need to be sure and vote.
Did you read the entire article?
Bull!!😡😡
Maybe if the democrats weren't Reagan-era republicans that tell their constituents to eat shit they might not be in such a pickle. But hey, gotta support corporations and oligarchs! Anyway, Socialism is the only way.
Wake up call to replace the soft/tepid leadership with people that are ready to fight in 2025.
I wonder why they keep winning these special elections, tho? Whatever the problem is, can't y'all just blame Mamdani and call it a day?
Maybe it has to do with turnout? I'd imagine the majority voting in special elections are extremely into politics. Regular elections are quite different.
When you realize that mega corporations run social media, this is not a surprise.
A deep political hole? THERE ARE STILL 9 MILLION MORE REGISTERED DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS. Jesus, you really love bashing Democrats, don't you?
You can have ten trillion registered but if they aren't turning out to vote for your candidate/s it's like having tits on a bull.
I love that you hide the fact that unaffiliated voters are what's growing, not Republican OR Democrats. But that doesn't support your narrative, does it? Failing Grey Lady.
The fact that there is no line for independent or unaffiliated on this chart says a lot about how they are trying to steer the narrative.
Independents shifted 9% towards Trump from 2020 to 2024 unfortunately.
Trump is not the totality of American politics. If most voters who left the Democratic party became non-democrats rather than became Republicans, that is a different story.
They're not even talking about voters who "left the party" they're talking about new registrants only. Which is a little disingenuous.
If it's only a shift in new voter registrations, it's way, way less significant.
And it is way way less significant - but boring news doesn't sell. Saying "Dems in disarray" does.
Trump’s Approval Among Independents: A Gallup poll conducted from July 7–21, 2025 reports that only 29% of independents approve of Trump’s job performance—marking a 17-point drop since January and matching his lowest-ever rating with this group. Seems that +9 pt shift may no longer be accurate.
Don't debate the trumper. I had to mute him.
Was he really a Trumper? I just assumed he was citing inaccurate information.
I'm not a Trumper, far from it if you wanna look at my last 9 months of posts. And what was inaccurate? Republicans gained 5 million registered voters, the guy I was responding to said that they didn't gain any...??
People within a bubble tend to react violently to mundane facts. It's sad, but these people will do their best to walk us all right off the plank again just like they did in 2024. Best to live in reality, as uncomfortable as it is. The only winning strategy.
Yep they'll keep their head in the sand even when shown cut and dry facts. Dems have lowest approval ratings in 30 years, things need to change...simple fact.
Ok… you are correct, your information isn’t inaccurate just out of date. You cited information relating to the period 2020-2024. I’m simply pointing out that presently that trend may be shifting.
Yes, I was referring to the information in the article that we were both commenting on. It may or may not shift significantly, not a lot of people register in off election years so we'll know more in about 9 months when registration picks up before mid terms.
That's a voting pattern for one election, not a long term trend. Independents swing in just about every election. Which is most of the reason why the party in power switches every couple election cycles. But I'm sure you already know that... right?
The article that you're replying to is about the voting patter in the past 8 years, you said "I love that you hide the fact that unaffiliated voters are what's growing, not Republican OR Democrats." which is 100% wrong for the time period that they're referring to. Did you even read it???
It's not wrong. And yes, I read it. It cherry picks the data to support their narrative - when the fact is the group of voters that's growing the most is independents, and the largest registered group is still the democratic party - but that doesn't sell their narrative.
Ooooh, the group "growing the most" is what you meant. Got it. Because you said republicans didn't grow in your initial comment.
Not precisely, but I'll grant that I could've made it more clear for readers like you.
Yes, saying it didn't swing republican is a little "unclear" when they actually gained 5 million registered voters. One could even say it was totally wrong!
You're making my point for me.
It literally shows that Republican registrations grew.
Funny that there's this downward trend at the end, though... for both parties... hmm... Also funny that it's only dealing with new registrations and not overall party identification... ...makes you wonder what agenda the times is pushing...
Republicans gained 5 million registered voters in the past 4 years.
You keep telling this tale that just isn't the whole story. But go ahead, Trumpy. Keep toeing that line.
"I love that you hide the fact that unaffiliated voters are what's growing, not Republican OR Democrats." So they gained 5 millions voters, which means you can't read or are stupid?
Huh... This is funny... Another news source says Independents are the growing party affiliation... That's weird. www.nbcnews.com/data-graphic...
And independents swung 9 pts to the right: www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/voting-patterns-in-the-2024-election/
Cool. And that still means that there are 9 million more registered Democrats than Republicans. usafacts.org/articles/how...
Cool, certainly doesn't have to do with states like Texas not requiring party affiliation whereas states like CA does...it's all in this article that I'm sure you read haha.
You're lying about California. California has about 30% registered independent or 3rd party. But keep telling yourself whatever supports your narrative.
Yeah, it's a tough spot for the Democrats. They're losing a huge chunk of voters—4.5 million since 2020—who are swinging to the Republicans. That’s a big gap to close, and it might take years to win them back.
Thanks for your valuable contribution repeating exactly what they posted word for word.
It’s a bot. Check out their other replies - all just rewording the original post. I’m reporting and blocking.
People don't like what Trump and R's are doing. I would hope they would vote that out without a second thought.
The Democratic Party is just not up to the challenge. Their leaders, whether conservative or radical, are useless. The alternative? A real American grass root movement, not one that cultural and political elites wish in their imaginary "revolution". A real one.
This should be a wake up call to the dems and this paper that parleys with fascists and pro-genocidal pundits
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All the white guys. A real club of wannabe Hitlers.
