The killing of Charlie Kirk on a Utah college campus on Wednesday — shortly after he began speaking to a young crowd — raises the possibility that the U.S. has entered an even more perilous phase. nyti.ms/3JYg05h
The killing of Charlie Kirk on a Utah college campus on Wednesday — shortly after he began speaking to a young crowd — raises the possibility that the U.S. has entered an even more perilous phase. nyti.ms/3JYg05h
please, we entered a more perilous phase long ago.
Why do we accept the slaying of school children and Democratic leaders, but when one podcaster is murdered, now it’s a problem? You stand by and report the military invasion of US cities like it’s a ho hum every day thing. How about nobody should be gunned down by lunatics?
That already happened when SCOTUS allowed Trump to violate the law numerous times.
And then there are the incompetents at the FBI. A Fed agency that normally is tasked to investigate & mitigate any potential for US sliding into a "perilous phase".
Heather Heyer.
It did with the election of Trump who has been taking a bit fat dump on human rights, democracy, and the rule of law ever since. Impunity and violence comes from the top.
Charlie Kirk said "Gun Deaths 'Unfortunately' Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment." Apr 06, 2023 at 5:39 PM
Just another chapter in Americans solving personal grudges with bullets.
Yep....America is truly doomed
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Gabby Giffords would also like a word, NYT.
Would love to hear why the "perilous phase" didn't begin with the multiple assassination attempts on the current president or the killing of multiple Minnesota lawmakers or any number of other attacks in the last decade.
Really? Not the politicians killed in Minnesota? Haven't heard any updates on that 'news' story the NYT's dropped quick for the next click bait headline.
Where was your concern about escalating violence when a MAGA terrorist assassinated two Democratic members of congress in Minnesota? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_sh...
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Hard to fathom that it took events of yesterday for NYT to recognize America’s ‘perilous phase’. It’s been underway for years.
Well, Utah state law allowed people to bring their concealed weapons to this event without any ability to screen if people had guns with them … so this is what they wanted … reaping what they have sown
Two Democratic politicians were murdered in their homes.
Correction, Mark Hortman was not a politician. His death was senseless nonetheless.
No shit?
I spy martial law… Too “dangerous” for Republicans to vote…. need to ensure public safety… need to “postpone” mid terms… credible threat and all that…
Prominent right wing people are inciting violence following the assassination. Prominent left wing people are not. How about you be less vague about that.
So why didn't we enter this phase about 2 months ago when Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota were assassinated in their own home?? Where was the outrage then?? Why haven't we been talking about political violence since then??
Does it?! Every Day Kirk and his fellows got more aggressive and lied, the hell out of them! Even after the lies began to strongly harm a certain population they didn‘t stop! It is not the way to interact with such people, but the chance that it happens grew day by day!
Let’s use a senseless murder to justify the pre existing self destruction of your societies and countries in favour of an elite few - honestly don’t see what you think is more perilous than what has occurred already - all that follows was started many years ago
Fuck the fuck off
Holy shit, welcome to the party, NYT. Your keen observance of the world around you is definitely not why legacy media is dead and buried. "More Perilous Phase" is a good indie rock band name, though.
Were you as concerned when Melissa Hortman and her husband were assassinated ?
A right-wing terrorist assassinated two Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses barely a month ago.
But at least it took pressure off Trump and Epstein…
Everybody is armed to the teeth and the government has been hijacked by unqualified & incompetent individuals. Laws’ courts, professionals & doctors are ignored. Facts are twisted & ignored… If I was Putin watching, I would be very pleased
Is it because Kirk was killed in public while Democratic Party lawmakers were hunted and killed in their own homes?
He also killed their dog.
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Charlie Kirk tweet from just five months ago… x.com/charliekirk1...
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why are you using AI to create posts? Better yet, why are you posting this fascist propaganda at all? The only real use for the NYT is to line a bird cage
The same reason anyone uses AI. Laziness
Political violence has been very prominent ever since Trump started his political career. Let's say it how it is!
Trump began this "phase" by inciting political violence at the capitol. And everyone knows that. He continues to incite such violence every day with rhetoric and acts of fascism and racism. And everyone knows that too.
So Nancy pelosis husband and the hortmans didn't? Says a lot.
Interesting to see that all the Democrats condemn violence and express concern for the family. The Republicans, without any information about the perpetrator or the motive, immediately condemn the Democrats. The students who were killed at the same time apparently don’t matter to them at all.
NYT: pls stick to what you are good at, word games. For real, watered down reporting is dead in 2025. Focus on games, you are good at that!
More will follow…
Charlie Kirk was not a political debater. He was a businessman. He was part of the “Outrage Industry”: media figures who profit from anger, fear & ridicule. The country needs to stop giving these businesses platforms.
Let's say Kirk was not really a fascist, but rather a businessman who came up with yet another way to leverage social media to make money Well, if your Goebbels impression is so perfect that people think you _actually_are_ Goebbels_, guess what bad thing might happen?
The phase where right-wing personalities get shot, not just kids at school?
Netanyahu's response - also Geert Wilders and Georgia Meloni. 👇🏽
On X they are calling for war against blue states. Quite possibly a false flag attack or foreign meddling.
The phase where nazis assassinate other nazis to blame the left and start a war??? Yup.
It was an inside job. Charlie Kirk had a big megaphone and he wanted the Epstein files released.
Until Trump called him 2 weeks ago and he did a U turn and didn’t want them released. I don’t want you implying Kirk had any integrity.
No kidding
There is NO suspect , NO evidence this was political violence. Perhaps it was Kirk’s jilted gay lover.
trump speech: Angered by "the radical left"-The shooter may have been a cultist who didn't like Butthead. No mention by trump of violence against Dems, such as the murder of Melissa Hortman and her husband, or the attack on former House speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband. So he can go FCK himself again!
One down!
Trump was obviously not kidding when he said he wanted the Epstein thing ripped from the headlines at any price. Anyway, when are we getting a full release of the Epstein files?
While the shooting of Melissa Hortman was just another Saturday.
Unfrigginfuckingbelievable
Charlie Kirks gay lover shot him.
Is this guy bare any responsibility for his words? How about you NYTimes?
There is only one who benefits from the assassination: Trump. He has done everything to ensure that civil war-like conditions arise. Maybe we should look at the motive of the assassination attempt on Kirk from this perspective
And yet this might be the only option to force him out of office
It is interesting. Leading MAGA caller for the Epstein files release gone. Instant MAGA saint/martyr created and another reason to crack down hard on dissent. It’s way too early to assume a left wing sympathiser did it.
“We’re going to go on offence, not just on defence. Maximum lethality, not tepid legality. Violent effect, not politically correct.” Is this what he meant?
I understand that America has entered the Golden Age of Stupid, with easy, and polarized, answers to every issue, including an assassination. But again, you should really, really ask yourself; who benefits the most from a United States imploding on itself?
Putin smiles.
He does indeed.
Fortunately it was not Thomas Matthew Crooks who shot.
You mean an era where preaching hated and division lead to violence? As opposed to legislators doing their jobs being slaughtered in their home?
Go ahead. Fan the flames absent any knowledge whatsoever about who or why.
Another mediocre white tranny who wasn’t allowed in the ladies room Democrats think the violence is perfectly justified So be it Let the revenge roundups begin The parasites invading our country have had it too easy. It’s time to get serious about rounding up these illegals #ForCharlie
What you should worry about is people like Kirk at the helm of this failing country. But no, let's fucking cry for a despicable nazi.
More then 398.5 million guns.The U.S.has more firearms than people. Every day,125 people are killed from guns and more than twice as many are shot.MA.has among the strongest gun laws in the USA and the lowest rate of gun deaths.NRA will NEVER allow Congress to pass gun laws! States must do the laws!
And a huge part of that can be attributed to, the NEW YORK TIMES. Thanks for running cover for these bigots, homophobes, racists, and misogynists.
Too many guns and too many itchy trigger fingers.
Indeed……….. www.americanprogress.org/article/trum...
I love you @nytimes.com “some signs of really bad stuff maybe, potentially, in the future; but everything is within range of normal right now” Every day I am relieved to read that we aren’t in a fascist or autocratic era, and that the explosion of stochastic terror is because phones or smth
We’ve been in this perilous stage since Nov 2016. We have a president who speaks violently every single day. A man who brings the worst out of everyone, even those who oppose him. Trump is the worst possible leader for this time, followed by his sycophants in Congress. No idea where we go now.
Helter Skelter!
Words matter. Clarity matters. Facts matter. It starts with all of the above.
That phase started a few years ago, on 6 January 2021.
Entered a more perilous phase? Trump sent an armed mob to attack the Capitol building, and a Democrat politician and her hisband were shot dead a couple of months ago. The US has been in this phase for years aready.
why does the NYT have to blow trump so much
if the NYT blows trump any harder they'll have cum stains on the inside of their undies
So let me get this straight @nytimes.com this is political violence but fascists hunting left wing elected officials, killing activists, *FUCKING RAIDING THE CAPITOL* is not? Of course this is political violence, but THIS IS NOT the begining of it. I wonder how would you have covered Reichstag fire
You harvest what you sow
How is this worse than the Minnesota State senator who was killed?
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I’m confused. Usually when people are shot on a school Campus we offer our thoughts and prayers and move on. At least the conversation seems to be moving towards retribution rather than any form of gun control.
It’s a shocking report of Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative figure, being killed while speaking at a Utah college. This tragedy suggests the U.S. may be facing a dangerous new level of political violence.
Hardly new, unless we ignore the murders of politicians in Minnesota a couple of months ago, or the hammer attack on Pelosi’s husband that was meant for her.
He advocated gun deaths as a worthwhile cost of freedom so he probably was in favor of this new “phase”, I bet.
Glaring omission of all the attacks on Dems...assault on Paul Pelosi, attempted kidnapping of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, attempted assassination of Gov. Josh Shapiro, death of Melissa and Mark Hortman and shooting of John Hoffman and his wife. Yet attacks on Republicans are listed. Media is worthless.