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“But he still thinks Trump has some great ideas”

It’s the trees voting for the axe all over again.

say the line, sir

This is the kind of response that shows you've really made it to the big time, Shoe

‘Revenge’

Spite motivates these folks. Turn it around on the guy who fucked ‘em.

You know I think public humiliation is now my official position. Just absolutely dress down with rhetorical questions drenched in sarcasm that are followed up by more questions. On national TV, prime time. Like hunh, really walk me through that thought process.

I’m “concerned” it involves dumping Susan Collins.

Trump's heartfelt message to this man now that he's secured his vote.

I saw that interview, he said he'd vote for Trump again if he could while admitting he doesn't know if he'll be able to keep his job and he's gone from demanding his price due to so much work to getting anything he can

That’s why I am saying no messaging can get through to these people

Agreed. No idea if they will ever learn, no matter how much pain he puts them through.

All part of Darwins plan. Let it happen.

Yeah, my Democratic messaging starts with an 'F' and ends in a 'u'.

"I see two stories here. The first one is about a guy who admitted his mistake. The second story is about a moron whose family is sleeping in a car under a bridge because he was too proud to admit that he was a stupid racist. Which one would you like fate to write, because it's writing one of them."

he'll probably land on his feet as jared golden's chief of staff.

My message would be: “ you are not immune.”

Trump take job

Trump take sun

This is why I don't believe in the "Trump voters knew what they were voting for and want to kill us all!" stuff. The median Trump voter appears to be an idiot who knows nothing about anything, least of all what Trump has actually said and done. They're voting for an imaginary Trump in their heads.

Trump is an unabashed monster. His voters thought they could get something out of his evil. Literally leopards eating faces party.

Nope. I could give the benefit of the doubt the first time around. Conned by a conman full of false promises. That he got MORE votes the second time (even after covid!) and then MORE votes the third time? They don't get the excuse that they didn't know better.

BINGO!

Joe Biden tried to help these people and they were bought with tips and casual racism.

Democrats need to stop helping people who will always hate them.

He doesn't like immigrants. It's not complicated.

That's the wrong argument, the wrong question. Dems don't need to appeal to Trump voters. They need to appeal to the plurality of citizens who consistently find themselves disenfranchised by the two main political parties.

"Appeal to people who don't vote" is a great way to lose an election.

Huh! I guess I never thought of that! Probably because the chart I just posted shows the percentage of DNV dropping from 47 to 36 over time

90% of them voted for hate and bigotry, nothing else, even when many of them are on the low end of the economic ladder and Trump would be making their lives much worse. They're willing to suffer immensely as long as the people they hate are also suffering.

Are reeducation camps a message?

Pounding rocks all day is a great way to sweat out the bad thoughts.

Got a message for him

like the democrats have their problems but exactly what is there to do when trum runs on "john smith of springfield, missouri, i will personally shoot your mother, jane smith, in the face with a shotgun" and john goes "well i love my mother but you know he's promising lower prices, so"

Or "well, the Democrats give me a mean look when I call someone a slur, so I have no choice but to vote for the man who wants to shoot my mother in the face"

Right, committed partisans are voting on their values, like racism and authoritarianism A relatively few disengaged swing voters might care about the price of eggs, and everyone else goes on about that to try to appeal to them

Exactly. The egg prices explanation is just their cover because (for now) it's impolite generally to say "I want a president that will hurt non-white people".

Nah, Republican partisans are not the same people as swing voters. Partisans of either party use economic discontent to try to appeal to the uncommitted or conflicted

Apologies, I get what you're saying now after a better reading effort and I generally agree. What I'm still stuck on though is that I suspect (some) people that paint themselves as uncommitted are actually hyper-committed but feel uncomfortable admitting as much.

Like all the "moderates" on dating apps that are actually Shy Trumpers.

i didn't even know matty yglesias was in an open marriage.

Oh, definitely. It may be rhetorical strategy rather than shyness in many cases. "hello fellow uncommitted voters" gets people's guard down plus everyone caters to the on the fence types

"Take him seriously, not literally."

“People vote for their material interests,” thought in shambles upon realizing that a vast section of voters can’t identify what their material interests actually are.

There are subtle unconscious impulses in these people that push them away from any material considerations and push them towards a zerosum conclusion that racial hierarchy is in their best interests

The subject of this book, although the subtitle tells you all you need to know...

Thank you for saying what I was—much less coherently—thinking.

🎯

"It's the economy , stupid" doesn't work for Trumpers. They vote for the one who feed them the most hate, racism, and bigotry. Trump entire campaign has been about hating non white immigrants and transgender, and his cult worships him because of that.

His material interest is being a racist, let him eat sun. These people are not going to vote for someone who treats immigrants with decency.

Just… so many people have apparently decided that their actions don’t have consequences. Made all the more stupid because this was the “actions have consequences” party pre-Trump.

Fat leopard ate all the faces.

Look, I know that “you are too stupid to participate in democracy and you deserve every misfortune you’re suffering” isn’t a popular message. It is, however, a correct and important one.

I was gonna say.

So hard to reconcile. people literally voted to destroy democracy as we know it, whether, stupid, uninformed, brainwashed by Fox. This is a SECOND term. Hard for me to not wish great ill and suffering on them all. I cannot speak of it, which is isolating and depressing. Also their fucking fault.

What do we do with these people? I’d like to deport them the fuck out of this country. I don’t want to kill them. But he shouldn’t reproduce, he shouldn’t vote, he simply lacks the fundamental attributes and moral integrity to participate as an adult in society.

I could give the benefit of the doubt the first time around. Conned by a conman full of false promises. That he got MORE votes the second time (even after covid!) and then MORE votes the third time? Folks knew exactly what they were voting for.

He didn't get more votes. He cheated. That's why he was so shocked that he lost in 2020 and why he was so confident in 2024.

Yes, that's the same theory the R's threw out about Biden's win in 2020 that was debunked due to a lack of evidence. If they had the ability to cheat, perfectly, undetectably, with hundreds of accomplices staying silent in thousands of distinct districts... why would they not ALSO rig congress?

Why would they settle for the 50-50 tie that has everything deadlocked and not go for 60-40? Why try to redistrict Texas? If "that would be too suspicious" and too fast, then why not at least 55-45? Make their lives easier. If you can cheat perfectly with zero detection, why not rig that too?

What's easier to believe? That Elon Musk, despite all evidence to the contrary, really is a super genius capable of programming and hacking super feats? Or that America is really racist?

Two things can be true.

And one helps the other.

People tell me shit like this is the information environment and I don't get it.

I mean, the guy’s obviously a right-wing media gobbler. That’s how they get this way, they cook their brains in bullshit for thousands of hours every year.

Yummy

Sous vide

110F for 30 years

Really sounds delicious

new polite way to call someone a waterhead just dropped. alert the senator. .@lukewarmtallboy.bsky.social.

The prevailing theme of 2024 election coverage was that you cannot trust democrats, so even if this guy ever directly heard that Trump was going to torch his job (dubious, given that the press devoted no coverage to it), he assumed that it was democratic propaganda.

Americans think they get to both vote for whomever they want and also choose whatever policies they want. Consumerism has destroyed our brains.

Bigotry. That's it.

The issue is that while the information is available, the ability to separate good from bad information is lacking People don’t ’trust but verify’ and instead, blindly pass on whatever fits their preconceived notions

The core support of Donald Trump is middle and lower middle class people who are convinced a nepo baby billionaire cares about them personally and I don't know how you crack that.

And care salesmen and dentists. Don't forget those psychos

Can’t crack it without break up media cartels.

I think it's deeper than that tbh.

Yeah, it’s not just that, but an important part.

It’s a para-social relationship with people who were already low emotional IQ levered up with the power of the internet. It really is a cult that just requires very little from its members.

That’s another huge part, there are no regulations on social media, it’s being used widely to manipulate all of us. Conservative brainwashing is more advanced and persistent but manipulation is rampant.

I have a full maga relative by marriage who's basically a stereotype. He's a lazy, undereducated and not particularly bright white dude. I once asked him why he believes a man who was born rich and made his living conning working people was fighting for him.

I could see the wheels spinning but ultimately they didn't go anywhere.

In the end so much of it is that Trump is a permission slip to be open about hating the "others" that keep them down. So much that seeing "them" be mad or suffer is worth everything else.

Yes. He is the Devil's blank slate.

Partially the laziness, doesn’t want to think, I know inlaws exactly like that, who truly believe NYC is a war zone, that thought there were be libs terror attacks in DC before the inauguration…

lol, lmao

Voting against one’s interests—🤯🤯

All 77 million of them!

Dude is worried about immigration living in MAINE? Can't fix stupid.

Damn Canadians.

They're so annoying 'eh?

FAFO RIP brains.

the embarrassment I feel as also someone from Maine, I spent every weekend from July till the Sunday before E-day up north working on people like this idiot, with mixed results.