yea i’m surprised to see nazis marching down an american street with nazi flags shouting nazi things and if that doesn’t surprise and scare the shit out of you then lmk which meds you’re on
yea i’m surprised to see nazis marching down an american street with nazi flags shouting nazi things and if that doesn’t surprise and scare the shit out of you then lmk which meds you’re on
Love your work. please keep talking. I'm not scared. I'm mad as Hell. I live free I will die free.
"oh you're upset? By the nazi guys advancing their nazi ways in America further than before? Not me. I'm just really smart I guess. Huge dick too"
Sadly, not surprised. I live in the middle of East MAGAstan. Even twenty years ago, I once passed by a house flying a white nationalist flag driving home with my African immigrant wife and our toddler. It was terrifying. But that is exactly what these people are. This is the Republican Party base.
There’s a country club in my parents neighborhood. A decade ago, my Dad’s company paid for him to join along w/mo dues. I warned them but they didn’t get it until more recently when some lady casually mentioned her son loves Trump b/c “he’s like Hitler” & the “nazi bar” analogy finally clicked.
I grew up in a wealthy suburb that was established in 69 as a product of white flight. It’s the most concentrated amount of racism I’ve ever encountered.
Venlafaxine and a lifetime growing up in the South numbing me to conservatives and their shenaniKlans
Wanted: the “are we surprised” / “why are you surprised” labeler.
and maybe we were in denial that this would happen? Too naive?
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Because they did it during the last FOTUS administration and nothing was done about is why I am not surprised, the current administration is supported by these types of people and he encourages them to be more vocal. Yes it sickens me, I spent my life defending against this.
You didn't do a very good job defending against it, clearly
Neither did you.
A) Im not claiming it B) im quite a bit younger!
the people who think they're part of a superior elite with the right to tell everyone else what to do are the people doing this
i think we can both acknowledge the unfortunate continuity, from “picnics” white folks took under lynched brown bodies, to Charlottesville and tiki torches and the murder of Heather Heyer, AND feel never-ending repulsion and shock at despicable behavior, brazen and repugnant hatred.
They even had a police escort to ensure their safety. While I get to eat tear gas launched by the same fucking cops. bsky.app/profile/gabe...
It’s certainly *shocking* to any decent person, but if you’ve lived there it isn’t really “surprising.” The KKK had a huge presence in Indiana & never left. Rural towns are full of confederate flags. Not the 1st time this has happened; their elected officials (Braun, Rokita) support this.
Agreed — as someone who saw this several weekends a month living in Nashville, it’s not terribly surprising anymore. These guys are emboldened and open about their views, especially post-covid, and they do this stuff with relative regularity. But it never stops being despicable or disturbing.
ok fair, but as a German observing the political developments in the US - what exactly is the surprising bit here after 2016? I am very scared about the developments (also in Germany) but nothing of this is surprising but bound to happen for about 10 years now
I was an exchange student in Germany. I studied German history over there. And yes, I’ve also been pointing out the similarities to Weimar era Germany and the ascendancy of the Nazis for at least the past ten years. And mostly people just looked at me funny and called me alarmist. Listen to Germans!
Dont listen to Germans tho. We all agree that we experience Weimar era stuff over the last decade here in Germany aswell and somehow Germany seems to agree on just not doing anything about it. Hitler's party atleast got banned once. Nowadays we dont even try that
I remember when I was there in 1992 I felt positive about all the „Nazis raus!“ graffiti but then realized it was in response to a rise in neo-Nazi activity. One day as I was going home from Gymnasium in Nürnberg, a little old lady handed me a pamphlet. When I got home I saw it was Nazi propaganda.
The amount of tacit surrender from the general public over this, that it's not met with a much larger show of resistance. That's the surprising part.
is it tho...? I mean I am very German in that regard - our Nazis are openly agitating - and winning - since 2012 and never faced resistance besides antifascist action. Our public quite likes them infact
My generation was still raised with a culture that told us over and over that Nazis are bad and it is heroic to fight them, so it's a little disorienting even with the last twenty years of real life.
yeah ok. We never really could foster those narratives in Germany for kinda obvious reasons
It should always be surprising that so many people have preemptively surrendered.
no, why? That's easily explainable from a psychological perspective
Cool. It's not like the assumption that people are inherently bad is a factor in how this type of idealogy festers, right? I'm sorry that I expect more from people.
People are inherently good tho. The neoliberal ideology is part of the problem and also contradicting all scientific evidence
People *are* inherently good, so why is it not surprising when they do nothing in the face of obvious evil?
Because humanity is a social and emotional species. People value social cohesion and go with what their peer group seems to believe in. At the same time emotions get manipulated which causes "the evil" to spread in the first place. That part is called propaganda
If you want people to do something you gotta mobilize people and the only people willing to use scientific knowledge about manipulation to succesfully do that are nazis
people arent anything. we have potential in all directions, good people can do bad things and vice versa, also the definition of good has pretty fuzzy edges. sharing food in a way all starve vs giving some more, self defense. people can be manipulated. people can hate killing and yet they will do it
Orrinary men by christopher browning is free available on the internet, I think wikipedia has a link. it goes a bit into sociology and psychology of perpetrators of the holocaust, specifically the sondergruppen
the general public are providing a lot more challenge and push back to this than the political establishment
Also this. Especially people do not realize that the authoritarian push is a "bipartisan" project. I.e. there are open far right extremists elected for Democrats for lots of years by now
it's taken a huge amount of effort to preserve the duopoly for this long so all they can do is double down now
i'm old enough to remember when unite the right was seen as a scary aberration
The only people surprised or shocked by this are white folks. The rest of us knew this was happening years ago and watched as no one stopped it and now we are here waiting for you guys to catch up and step up. But it still won't surprise us when you don't.
I have been stoned since January lmao, still not fun to watch
Dude's bio matches the cruel vibe pristinely.
Lived in Indiana for 53 years. Just so you know, this is not new. I've seen this pretty much every year since High School. When I was 14, first in high school, I remember a guy with a cool nova who i became friendly with. He was a full on marching white supremacist at 17, in 1986.
Who was it that said there is a difference between surprise and shocked? I'm not sure I'm surprised by what is happening given who is in power, but that doesn't make it any less shocking. If any of us cease to be shocked by this depravity, then we will have truly lost.
i'm surprised to see conservatives taking the mask off by putting masks on
Yes. I wrote THE INTERMEDIARIES; it tracks the rise of Nazis to 1933, and I’m scared to death. It’s uncanny how similar—and also how it was a surprise then, too. Everyone thought there were safeguards in place. I believed it about the US, as well. 1933 looks inevitable at distance but came as shock.
Also can recommend “In the Garden of Beasts” (Erik Larson) on the interbellum/Weimar escalation.
These people are immediate blocks now.
I just got blocked for pressuring one to elaborate on why they think the behavior is helpful. There's a solid chance they're psy-op-lite doing it on purpose.
Not an unprecedented phenomenon in the US. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...
I’m not surprised about it because it’s exactly what I would have expected Indiana to do with a bunch of Nazis even before all of this happened. It still needs to be reported on, and we still need to fight it with everything we’ve got.
Humans never learn from history. Brown shirts and working class followed Hilter. Ended in destruction.
I have seen several KKK and Nazi marches in my life.. they always have police protection and it's never been something that people make a big enough deal over. Being shocked by it is very understandable. Being surprised by it doesn't make sense to me.. How did you not notice sooner?
It scares me but doesn't surprise me because I sent videos like that to (former) "friends" in purple states before the election and got laughed at for being unreasonable and hysterical
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We need a reply bot for 'why are you surprised' comments, modeled on 'EatShitBot' on the old app.
The surprising and scary part is that they are barely distinguishable from ICE.
We have Nazis marching down Australian streets too. Horrifying
Surprised? No, not for the past decade. Angry? Every freaking day. Scared? ONE HUNDRED PERCENT! But also lamotrigine had been great for me since 2003 so there's that.
social media has made everyone numb
I’m not. Grew up in Indianapolis. This. Is. Normal. For. Indianapolis . It happens so frequently it’s no longer even acknowledged. We can’t even joke about needing meds to live there because access to mental healthcare is non-existent in the city where Eli Lilly has its headquarters.
When did you first hear about this? I didn’t see a damn thing until scrolling here on Bsky at 11pm last night. You’re right, this shit happens so much here I think the populace doesn’t bat an eye anymore. But would have been nice for some news outlets to have shined some light on this pronto.
I saw it on Reddit shortly after it happened.
Some people want to believe that Nazism of this sort is normal. Some people are not thinking clearly when making the claim.
I’m more surprised someone hasn’t hit the gas and veered suddenly onto the sidewalk
I grew up in a country that taught me killing Nazis is a very good thing to be proud of. And now I’m supposed to be like “oh well, different strokes”? Nah. 🔪
Both sides!😬