Plants don’t feel pain, nor have any desire to not die. In fact evolutionary theory suggests that many plants if they could want something would want to be eaten because that is how they propagate.
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According to my middle school biology class - most of them propagate by pollination. Correct me if I'm wrong or not up to date. We don't know if plants feel pain, and it's a bad indicator of anything related to "wellbeing" or consciousness: bsky.app/profile/cyb3...
jul 22, 2025, 1:05 am • 0 0 • view
No I don’t think we know if plants or insects feel pain. I would suspect that insects do, but my honest belief is that it is far less so than all animals and creatures with more developed senses. If I had to venture a guess they probably experience existence sorta like we do when we are very drunk
jul 23, 2025, 3:26 am • 0 0 • view
in the sense of just not having such an acute awareness of any thing at all. It certainly gets to the frontier of what we know about consciousness but I’m not sure I agree we know nothing about it, personal experience can tell us a lot. There’s clearly grades of it, and evidence suggests these
jul 23, 2025, 3:26 am • 1 0 • view
relate to more developed brains and sensors. Do I think killing masses of insects is bad then? I think when done to alleviate much more definite suffering by humans and animals it’s understood as a tradeoff with minimal moral hazard. But if you did this purely for fun, ya I think that’s sadism
jul 23, 2025, 3:26 am • 1 0 • view
Back to the classic example, people who pull apart even individual insects for fun, without any good scientific intention or who relish some sense of inflicted pain: I think everyone of normal morals recognizes this is wrong, and it’s because the pain tho slight is unalloyed by any tradeoff.
jul 23, 2025, 3:26 am • 0 0 • view
So when I think of eating meat, which is clearly a pleasure for me but not required to live or flourish, I understand it as something similar. We don’t have to kill cows, we do because it brings us joy not truly different from the kid pulling apart butterflies. I don’t want to be that anymore
jul 23, 2025, 3:26 am • 0 0 • view
Something occurred to me. In the classic example of someone taking a bug apart, does your mind go to an adult doing it? Or a kid? Like burning ants with a magnifying glass... That's something I associate with kids.
jul 25, 2025, 5:56 am • 0 0 • view
Also they are rooted to the ground. Thousands of animals eating them, even the wind hurts them and makes them suffer. Sick evolution this would be 😂🥲 Even if one would believe this supernatural claim to be true, the humane thing to do would be to eat them
jul 17, 2025, 6:04 am • 1 1 • view